POLITICS - Gov Palin's Debate

Tennessee Hayre · Post by **Tennessee Hayre** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:36 pm

How do you all think Gov Palin will do on Thursday.?

Post by **Ysabel Kid** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:38 pm

I think she will do great - and Biden is going to look like the rabid dog he is!

Tennessee Hayre · Post by **Tennessee Hayre** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:41 pm

I sure hope so. McCain needs a shot in the arm.

mescalero1 · Post by **mescalero1** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:45 pm

I have NEVER wanted ANY woman to do well as I want her to do

reo · Post by **reo** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:49 pm

I hope her first two big media disasters (IMO) were tactical moves to make Biden think she will be a push over and she comes out strong.

Tennessee Hayre · Post by **Tennessee Hayre** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 11:02 pm

Same here. I hope she blows everyone away (with performance of course). Make MSNBC eat crow. They have been dogging her all night. I always watch Fox News, and was just clicking through the channels until i got sick from all their trash they were spewing.

Post by **Old Savage** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 12:44 am

She will do fine but this is very polarized. Strong words this weekend with old friend who doesn't like her. But, she could not retort, only drop it. I didn't start it.

bogus bill · Post by **bogus bill** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 1:03 am

All posts before me I agree with. She is intelligent and wont embarrass us or herself. Yes Biden is experienced and a motormouth, confident and all that goes with it. He just may overstep himself though. I dont think any inteligent people would expect Palen to be as well schooled as Bidens experience, however the libs and dems as always are bound to find fault with Palen no matter what is said anyway. Being bloodthirsty like that, will go against them with most morale people. Just look at the liberal entertainment crowd! They hate her so bad they are makeing fools of themselves! Just look at that fool David Letterman, he got carried away with so much hatred jokes towards her he couldnt stop himself! The entire liberal media even commented about it!
You know why they dont like her? Two big reasons. 1st, she is a real christian, and 2nd, she is morale and conservative and the ungodly hate her! They know she is right and scared to death of her! Gods hand is in this one! Dont stress, she will come out just fine.

Post by **Hobie** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 6:48 am

Old Savage wrote:She will do fine but this is very polarized. Strong words this weekend with old friend who doesn't like her. But, she could not retort, only drop it. I didn't start it.

This election is showing that the populations is very polarized. There seems to be very little common ground between the two sides. Why? Because the one side is capitalist and the other is communist. Once upon a time here in VA, a Democrat or a Republican were distinguished mainly by their party of choice with few differences in the substance of their beliefs aside from race relations. They didn't go after guns, they were all for national security, etc. About 1970-74 that started to change. E.g. now, a Dem is for gun control (Senator Webb is a notable exception) although they might go with the flow, i.e. the Republican majority, in order to have a hope for the next election. This is even evident in local government. Even constitutional officers like the Commissioner of Revenue seem to have agendas rather than an intent to just do their job.

Gov. Palin is everything the Dems have said they want a woman to be but she isn't a Dem so they hate here. I look for the debate to be structured and moderated to favor Biden. I hope she can come up with a couple of zingers for Biden but I don't know, Biden will likely drone on an on (just like I have here...

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AJMD429 · Post by **AJMD429** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 6:55 am

She will go down in flames - not 'really' - but the news media wants SO badly to fry her. The hosts are transparently socialist in all the debates I've seen over the years, and obviously the 'pundits' afterwards who tell us who 'won' are socialist.

Post by **Ysabel Kid** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 6:56 am

You haven't Hobie (droned on), but Biden sure does. Hopefully the moderator will keep Biden confined to his time. Their strategy will be for him to talk as much as possible and play up his supposed "experience" in foreign affairs with 30+ years in the Senate. Palin needs to be quick to point out her executive experience trumps both his and Obama's, and ask the rhetorical question that if she is not experienced enough to be VP, how come Obama is experienced enough to be VP. If Biden is dumb enough to answer that he is on the ticket to ad experience, she has him. She then reminds everyone that the most experienced person is at the top of the GOP ticket - where they should be!

Palin is good, and she will stay on task. She knows the purpose of the debate is to get the ticket elected, not make her look good per se. If she stays on theme - and points out the liberals hypocrisy every time, she'll score big!

Hobie, you are 110% correct about the country - we have become one of those who believe in our Founding Fathers' vision, and those who would rather pursue Marxism or Marxism-lite.

O.S.O.K. · Post by **O.S.O.K.** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 7:02 am

I watched the presidential debate and thought mccain ran away with it - then I watch the news and they say its a tie....

The whole time obamination looks like a whipped dog.... upset me off to listen to the reporting - and that was fox news!

Regardless of how Palin performs they will say Bidon won...

Post by **Ysabel Kid** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 7:11 am

O.S.O.K. wrote: Regardless of how Palin performs they will say Bidon won...

True - but unlike many other elections a large part of the populace is actually paying attention. Not only for the novelty that the respective tickets represent, but also due to the financial crisis the country is in. As much as the news may say someone won, the populace will see who actually did despite the MSM spin.

That's what has the Dem's scared!

C. Cash · Post by **C. Cash** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 7:55 am

bogus bill wrote: You know why they dont like her? Two big reasons. 1st, she is a real christian, and 2nd, she is morale and conservative and the ungodly hate her! They know she is right and scared to death of her! Gods hand is in this one! Dont stress, she will come out just fine.

+1 That's it in a nutshell. Even if she doesn't get elected, we've had fun watching the Left squirm and show their true colors. It's a shame that they don't look in the mirror when looking for intolerance.

Aries · Post by **Aries** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:25 am

I'll be praying for her. I'm not a Biden fan.

Gun Smith · Post by **Gun Smith** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:48 am

I'm hoping Gov. Palin does well. She has had a couple of bad interviews though, and I hope this won't become another one. The moderator will be a liberal, of course, as are most TV talking heads. But that may not be a problem if she learns anything from the crash course in foreign affairs she is getting this week.
The rumors about either VP's dropping out is just talk. Although if Biden did, and Clinton stepped in, it might gain the Dem's the womens vote they need and win them the election. I wish Palin well.

L8agin · Post by **L8agin** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:23 am

She handels hersef well an I'm praying for her (us)-They can't edit her out here. She seems like a bit of fresh air, but with coaching and having to go along with Mccain only time will tell.
L8

Tennessee Hayre · Post by **Tennessee Hayre** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 7:09 pm

About the news saying that McCain and Obama was tied left me with my mouth open. Any person with any brain could seen McCain had Obama on the ropes and made him look like a kid who did not get his way. I was really suprised that Fox News said it was a tie. Made me switch over to the weather channel. Fox was the last news channel i could stand to watch that was fair and balanced, now I have lost trust in them as well. That hit me in the gut. Is their anyone (Media) out there who is going to give credit when McCain or Rep do something right. I hope I don't afend anyone but "I believe anyone who says they are not sure who they are voting for by now has to be a very confused person. When they get folks off the street who say they are still deciding i think they are full of it. Come on it's only been two years since they have been running for the job.

Idahoser · Post by **Idahoser** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 10:14 am

The televised 'interviews' thus far have been chopped and diced to remove her best moments and the interviewslug's worst moments. They won't have the opportunity to do that in a live debate.

My worry is that she will give in to McCommie's compromise, rather than be herself.

Tennessee Hayre · Post by **Tennessee Hayre** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:15 pm

Amen Brother!!!!!!!!

Grizzly Adams · Post by **Grizzly Adams** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 4:51 pm

Who is moderating this debate?

Cliff · Post by **Cliff** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 5:10 pm

I was thinking of how all the talking heads try to spin these things. Not gone to happen but I think Palin needs to come out with a Blond Wig, big fake boobs, act like a total air head, laugh and giggle while Biden talking, then go for the throat. Why not inject some humor into this event. I feel she can handle herself in any situation and give a good show but the opposition is quite sure they can break her poise. Just ranting. I think she will do well, the main problem is the selected moderator has already released a book praising Obama and is a radical leftist. Well know for showing extreme predjudice against any conservative. Anyway rant off. ATB

Tennessee Hayre · Post by **Tennessee Hayre** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 5:13 pm

A lady who is an Obama supporter. She has wrote a Pro Obama book. So like always, you know where this debate is headed.

Shooter973 · Post by **Shooter973** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 5:41 pm

The main stream media has already determined that Mr. Biden will be the winner!! They will say that Sarah is "not ready, wooden, stilted. Out of her league, etc.etc." I think she'll do just fine and she will score some good points, but with the media (except FOX) already in the bag for BHO she hasn't got a fair chance according to them!!!

45Jack · Post by **45Jack** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 6:44 pm

Apparently the moderator of the debate has written a book about Obama.
But, I'm confident that she is objective and impartial.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/200810 ... 0B9TBh24cA

L8agin · Post by **L8agin** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 9:42 am

After seeing last nights vote on the october surprise and finding out the votes were bought individually with perks and earmarks. Iowa got bioenergy tax breaks-don't know if thats an extension of existing breaks or new ones-AND flood relief funds. Walla-both senaters voted yes. What did everyone else get?? I heard the price of this package was higher than the senate version so this adds up.
This in mind and Palins initial claim to fame was kicking good old boys buts, all she has to do to win this debate is hammer her claim to fame and point out biden's, Obamas, and yes McCain's votes. In addition point out the people responsable-not let biden bluff her with BS and hammer the facts-let the chips fall where they may so if she has to go home she can hold her head high and come back another day with credability.
L8
PS
what a waste of time worrying about this campaign it's minipulated beyond our control-Gotta fix the car an do little farming ta hell with it all

L8

bogus bill · Post by **bogus bill** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 10:33 am

I dont vote on someone knows who the lt govenor of sir lanka is or whatever. To me, I look at where these people are comeing from, how they are apt to vote on issues etc. The bailout 700+ billion was just voted in despite all the E-mails that ran over 95% instructing the senators not to. I guess, now hope, they know better than us. At this point of the game I am amazed that they think we need to even watch a debate to make up our minds on who to vote for. My mind has been made up for a long, long time. I totaly look at the probable type people the new president will surround himself with, the type he will take advice from, the type he will be appointing judges and cabinet heads etc. So far Obama is 0 and McCain a LOT better.
Sarah Palin will do just fine. No, to the liberals she will be a complete failure no matter what. Biden will appear to the sheep as far more experienced as he is, but experience has nothing to do with his political phylosphy or how he will vote on issues or advise the president. It is ALL to do about a canidates core values and wisdom. When I took exams I put down the answer I knew the tester wanted, not the ones I sometimes dissagreed with.

scr83jp · Post by **scr83jp** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 2:09 pm

Palin is the CIC of the Alaskan NG unit that is operational 24-7 she probably has a very high top secret security clearance & is briefed by high level fed officials with such info you don't talk to anyone about.I'd give the same response "I can see Russia from AK" When I was in the USAF I had a secret security clearance,we were instructed to keep info to ourselves but the guys with top secret clearances kept their mouths closed about their jobs,etc.

mescalero1 · Post by **mescalero1** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 2:32 pm

Gwen Ifel is moderating the debate, and she is a good reporter.
If she cows down to the Obama crowd, I will be both surprised and disappointed in her.

Sgt443 · Post by **Sgt443** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 3:31 pm

Governor Palin will do fine. Biden will be called the winner. Very few minds will be changed either way.

It won't happen, but I would like to see Gov. Palin set the tone by complimenting Ms. Ifil on her book and asking for an autographed copy.

There are times when you have to take the initiative away from your opponent. (I don't know anything about Ifil and I'm willing to be corrected, but as an Obama supporter with a financial interest in the election results she should not be there)

Lonnie

revorg · Post by **revorg** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 6:54 pm

Sgt443 wrote:It won't happen, but I would like to see Gov. Palin set the tone by complimenting Ms. Ifil on her book and asking for an autographed copy.
Lonnie

Sgt,
Thats the best idea I've heard all day.

AJMD429 · Post by **AJMD429** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 7:41 pm

45Jack wrote:Apparently the moderator of the debate has written a book about Obama.
But, I'm confident that she is objective and impartial.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/200810 ... 0B9TBh24cA

mescalero1 wrote:Gwen Ifel is moderating the debate, and she is a good reporter.
If she cows down to the Obama crowd, I will be both surprised and disappointed in her.

There is no such thing as a "good reporter" anymore. They are ignorant, biased, lying self-anointed crusaders for the socialist cause.

...I would like to see Gov. Palin set the tone by complimenting Ms. Ifil on her book and asking for an autographed copy.

THAT would earn her my respect beyond anything else she could do. McCain just tries to be "almost as good a socialist" as Obama, which rubs me the WRONG way.

brucew44guns · Post by **brucew44guns** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 7:55 pm

Palin seems to be quick and witty in her real life as governor. Hopefully she will let herself be her real self tonight, and smash Biden in the eyes of the people who watch her. The lib news folks can bad talk her all they want, but the people are looking for some fresh common sense.

Post by **Hobie** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 9:31 pm

I think she's done well.

AJMD429 · Post by **AJMD429** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 9:44 pm

Ha! The best part was when Biden was trying to say "Obama" and instead said "Osama!"

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 10:02 pm

She did good... I think? Nah, I think she did great... but I was as biased as the moderator... but then I'm not claiming otherwise.

TedH · Post by **TedH** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 10:06 pm

I watched the liberal crew on MSNBC to see what they had to say about her performance. Most of them even admitted that she did better than they were expecting (or hoped) she'd do.

I think for the most part she did great.

Andrew · Post by **Andrew** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 10:36 pm

TedH wrote:I watched the liberal crew on MSNBC to see what they had to say about her performance. Most of them even admitted that she did better than they were expecting (or hoped) she'd do.

I think for the most part she did great.

+1 I just said similar on the other thread and it was fun to watch them chat about someone they probably didn't want to do well.

mescalero1 · Post by **mescalero1** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 11:10 pm

Gwen aquited herself well

DixieBoy · Post by **DixieBoy** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 11:19 pm

...And Governor Palin acquited herself even better. All the honest commentators are saying just that tonight. I watched the entire debate, and I believe that Mrs. Palin could not have been better. Now...if only John McCain would wake up and realize that he is in an election.... DixieBoy

scr83jp · Post by **scr83jp** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 11:38 pm

She did an excellent job in my opinion .Fred Thompson caught SloJoe telling several false statements about McCain.

mescalero1 · Post by **mescalero1** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 11:49 pm

Gov. Palin did well, many of us were in her camp.
But Gwen did not bring the things that many accused her of.
The system works, but we must let it happen; all in all a good evening.
We would not have seen this in other countries.

Jarhead · Post by **Jarhead** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 12:13 am

I think Palin did a great job...She had him in tears...

What an act! I think the pressure was on Biden...When he was tearing up, Palin was composed and smiling...she new she had him rattled

She kept it low key, yet intimidating. Loved it!

mescalero1 · Post by **mescalero1** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 12:27 am

Jarhead,
+1

Idahoser · Post by **Idahoser** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 11:12 am

AJMD429 wrote:...There is no such thing as a "good reporter" anymore. They are ignorant, biased, lying self-anointed crusaders for the socialist cause...

Please don't make the mistake of considering them ignorant. They understand and choose socialism, and they are intelligent. Look where we are, at the 'choice' you have in November, and tell me they're "ignorant".

Tennessee Hayre · Post by **Tennessee Hayre** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 11:59 am

Well this has been a very good thread. When I started it I did not think it would go this far. I thank everyone for their input and I hope we can continue it through out until the election. Good Stuff...

Sgt443 · Post by **Sgt443** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 12:41 pm

mescalero1 wrote:Gov. Palin did well, many of us were in her camp.
But Gwen did not bring the things that many accused her of.
The system works, but we must let it happen; all in all a good evening.
We would not have seen this in other countries.

As I mentioned in my post, I don't know Ifil and was willing to be corrected. I was on duty and did not see the whole thing (wife taped about the last 10 minutes), based on the little I saw I stand corrected and agree with Mescalero.

Lonnie

Jarhead · Post by **Jarhead** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 6:41 pm

Idahoser wrote:
AJMD429 wrote:...There is no such thing as a "good reporter" anymore. They are ignorant, biased, lying self-anointed crusaders for the socialist cause...
Please don't make the mistake of considering them ignorant. They understand and choose socialism, and they are intelligent. Look where we are, at the 'choice' you have in November, and tell me they're "ignorant".

+100

Liberals/Socialists play dirty for sure and yes, they are very slick! Liberals will manipulate, lie, cheat, and steal to promote thier agenda. They have no integrity, but they are far from ignorant.

jd45 · Post by **jd45** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 8:52 pm

mescalero1, I was laughing so hard at your post, because I was thinking the same thing! jd45

jd45 · Post by **jd45** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 9:05 pm

mescalero1, do you mean she reined in her liberal bias adequately? jd45