Crazyness: Using a lever ain't allowed, but Chem warfare is?

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Crazyness: Using a lever ain't allowed, but Chem warfare is?

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I've got a pigeon problem. Durn things have a nest in a recess on the side of an adjoining building and stuff on my car. Can't get to it via ladder. Can get to it (them) via Lever.22 & Colibris... but the PD frowns at me when I do that.

Because it's the neighbor's building I can't cover the recess with wire like I ought to.

So... what can I legally do?

Saturate the nest with Bleach and Ammonia via squirt bottle (one of each, in sequence).

Bloody Chlorine Gas a'la WWI.

I can't use a pellet gun or .22 CB, but for some strange reason Chemical Warfare agents are still legal... :roll: Go figure.
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Notify the building owner, that if he fails to control his pest problem, you will be sueing him for the damages to your car's paint. Take photos and send them along to him. Some folks just need a bit prodding.
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Have you tried asking your neighbor for access?

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FWiedner wrote:Have you tried asking your neighbor for access?

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Yeah, I would think they stuff on his car too!!
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I "heard" once about a fella who had starling problems. Lived in town and had many of the same issues as you. See these starlings would flock up and eat his dogs food every day. Well, this fella put out a pan of dog food one day with a whole box of Alka Seltzer crumbled up and mixed in with the dry food. Put the dog up and left it for a few hours. When he came back there wasn't a dead bird around. He figured that it didn't work. It was a couple of days later that the neighbor asked if he had heard about this guy down the street. Went outside one morning and there were hundreds of dead starlings under the yard tree. Seems they all died while roosting....of course this is just something I once "heard" about. :roll:

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Get a blowgun. I have seen this done with pigeon problems and it is effective.

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Yep, cities and their regulations. Had a similar issue at the SO with pidgeons. Several of us volunteered for "practice", but... we were told, no way, Jose. Contracted with professional exterminator... used poison corn... so instead of pidgeon excrement, we were innudated with pidgeons dropping out of the sky! :o
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Griff wrote:Yep, cities and their regulations. Had a similar issue at the SO with pidgeons. Several of us volunteered for "practice", but... we were told, no way, Jose. Contracted with professional exterminator... used poison corn... so instead of pidgeon excrement, we were innudated with pidgeons dropping out of the sky! :o
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I have "heard" of people with bird problems using chick starter and cement mix to get rid of birds. Just heard of it mind you, the rumor is that mixing the two together causes the birds to eat the stuff then when the cement hardens in the craw .......... well you get the idea. Don't know if it really works or not, just something I heard! :wink:
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TomF wrote:Get a blowgun. I have seen this done with pigeon problems and it is effective.

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A freind brought his blowgun on a float trip and before it was over I was nailing crawdads in the shallows with it. I think it would be easy to get a bird given the distance was right. Course, hitting anything is easy given the distance is right. :lol:
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Andrew wrote:A freind brought his blowgun on a float trip and before it was over I was nailing crawdads in the shallows with it. I think it would be easy to get a bird given the distance was right. Course, hitting anything is easy given the distance is right. :lol:

I knew a guy who had a blow gun. Tried it out on the neighbor's cat. That was dumb, to say the least. But he wasn't the brightest bulb in the box. Anyway, ended up with kitty running all over with an "antennae" sticking out of his skull. That's all I recall of the story I was told, don't recall what happened to the kitty. The thing about a blow gun is that you've gotta hit 'em where it counts or you'll just have a skewered bird flying all over dripping blood on things. That's even worse than the droppings...
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At one time Cold Steel was selling big bore blowguns. Something like .70 CAL IIRC. You might check them out.
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When I was a kid I watch a National Geographics Special about Amazon Indians showing then hunting with their blow guns, and I got a brain storm and found some bamboo shish-kabob skewers and glued tuffs of cotton on the butt ends just like the Amazonians did and shot these out of my BB gun. They were surprisingly accurate with amazing penetrating power. Popped a few Tilapia in the backyard stream for crab bait, but when I shot a sparrow my joy turned into guilt in about 5 seconds. I buried that bird in the backyard, made a mini headstone, did a little prayer for forgiveness then destroyed the remaining darts, and didn't return to the idea for many years. Is this story relevant? I don't know but I feel better for letting it out. :D
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Asking the owner is pointless. Pigeons don't bother her and aren't over HER parking area...

This is the same woman who pulls up in front of the building and lays on the horn untill her employees come out to talk to her... apparantly the Telephone is too complicated. :roll:

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Aerosol wasp killer... It delivers in a nice steady stream and will be something like the chemical equivilent of taking a bath in MEK. Consider lighting the stream on fire an "optional" upgrade. If they survive that, call Guinness.
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Slick wrote:Aerosol wasp killer... It delivers in a nice steady stream and will be something like the chemical equivilent of taking a bath in MEK. Consider lighting the stream on fire an "optional" upgrade. If they survive that, call Guinness.
They're too spooky to hit with anything but a rifle. I'm poisoning the nest and (hopefully) gassing the fledglings that are back in the nitch where I can't reach.
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Slick wrote:... If they survive that, call Guinness.
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OI getting ready to go in...

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Ya know, I thought about firing up the Phosgene engine, but safe dispersal is harder... :twisted: :wink:
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GANJIRO wrote:When I was a kid I watch a National Geographics Special about Amazon Indians showing then hunting with their blow guns, and I got a brain storm and found some bamboo shish-kabob skewers and glued tuffs of cotton on the butt ends just like the Amazonians did and shot these out of my BB gun. They were surprisingly accurate with amazing penetrating power. Popped a few Tilapia in the backyard stream for crab bait, but when I shot a sparrow my joy turned into guilt in about 5 seconds. I buried that bird in the backyard, made a mini headstone, did a little prayer for forgiveness then destroyed the remaining darts, and didn't return to the idea for many years. Is this story relevant? I don't know but I feel better for letting it out. :D
I always calm myself in these instances of pointless guilt by reasoning that if this bird outweighted me, he would tear me limb from limb before consuming my flesh raw.

In the end, he deserved it.

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[quote="don Tomás"]OI getting ready to go in...

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O.I., have you thought about a high pressure nozzle for your garden hose? A simple super high pressure small brass nozzle can be purchased quite cheaply at your local hardware store, and as long as the range isn't too great it will total their abode without having to worry about collateral damage, toxic residue, or how the local constabulary might take it. How long would you stay someplace where the neighbors kept knocking your house down every time you built it? :twisted:
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slimster wrote:O.I., have you thought about a high pressure nozzle for your garden hose? A simple super high pressure small brass nozzle can be purchased quite cheaply at your local hardware store, and as long as the range isn't too great it will total their abode without having to worry about collateral damage, toxic residue, or how the local constabulary might take it. How long would you stay someplace where the neighbors kept knocking your house down every time you built it? :twisted:
Thought of that (have the nozzle actually) but no tap.

And they have come back every time after "simple harrassment" using a long stick to poke at them.
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I have seen adapters for attaching a hose to your kitchen sink, or do you have washing machine hook-ups in your home? Since you already have the nozzle, it couldn't hurt to try. My neighbor's "boom-car" is simple harrassment, but it's not practical to leave just because of that, but if they knocked my house down...
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This is an old office building built in 1893 or so.

With a lot of re-plumbing I might be able to get water from the bathroom, but the pressure sucks.
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