.348 DC by David Clements

[38 WCF]

20 1/2 inch Pac Nor barrel.
Full length magazine tube.
Glass bedded stock.
Action work.
Warne rings.
Weaver 1X3 scope
180 grain Hawk at 2700 f.p.s.

[Chuck 100 yd]

COOL !!

[brucew44guns]

Give us .348 lovers more info if you can, about how we can own one of these if we can afford it? Looks nice.

[38 WCF]

Clements custom guns in Woodlawn VA. is who makes these and he designed the cartridge.
Price including the base gun starts at about 1550.00.
Mine as shown cost 1650.00
Pretty expensive but I am only one of four people who own one.
The cartridge is based on the 45/70 case.

[WCF3030]

Very nice!!
Looking forward to a range/hunt report.
How about a pick of the round.

[6pt-sika]

I'd like to have this cartridge on a 1895G !

[rjohns94]

very very nice. thanks for sharing.

[6pt-sika]

Give us .348 lovers more info if you can, about how we can own one of these if we can afford it? Looks nice.

Scroll down on this link and you can see pretty much everything about this cartridge that you might wish to know !

http://www.clementscustomguns.com/rifleservices.html

[Naphtali]

I'm curious because you think enough of the 348/45-70 to invest a substantial number of dollars.

Why did you choose this wildcat caliber rather than the 348 Winchester? So long as cartridge overall length remains acceptable for feeding through a Marlin's carrier assembly, there is no safety-related reason to not alter the mechanism to 348 Winchester at no higher than the same price you paid for the wildcat conversion.

[Grizzly Adams]

I'm curious because you think enough of the 348/45-70 to invest a substantial number of dollars.

Why did you choose this wildcat caliber rather than the 348 Winchester? So long as cartridge overall length remains acceptable for feeding through a Marlin's carrier assembly, there is no safety-related reason to not alter the mechanism to 348 Winchester at no higher than the same price you paid for the wildcat conversion.

Good question. I am also curious about that. Does the 348 DC have some advantage over the 348WCF, or is it a problem with the 348 WCF working in the Marlin action?

[Naphtali]

. . . Does the 348 DC have some advantage over the 348WCF, or is it a problem with the 348 WCF working in the Marlin action?

Since the Marlin M1895 accepts 50 Alaskan, a non-bottle necked cartridge, and 470 Turnbull, a bottle necked cartridge, without resorting to altering M1895's cartridge length, and 510 Kodiak Express, a bottle necked cartridge with OAL of 2.73 inches -- all of which are based upon the 348/50-110 basis case -- I kind've doubt there's a problem getting the 348 Winchester cartridge to feed, so long as OAL is accepted by the particular M1895 conversion.

[Leverluver]

The 348 is a 2.8" cartridge. I have never heard of successfully fitting a full sized (length) 348 in a Marlin. If it could be done DC would have already done it.

[Grizzly Adams]

The 348 is a 2.8" cartridge. I have never heard of successfully fitting a full sized (length) 348 in a Marlin. If it could be done DC would have already done it.

Thanks!

[Naphtali]

The 348 is a 2.8" cartridge. I have never heard of successfully fitting a full sized (length) 348 in a Marlin. If it could be done DC would have already done it.

While accurate, this is slightly misleading. 348 Winchester case is 2.20 inches. Handlloaded ammunition can be to an acceptable OAL.

[38 WCF]

I do not know why DC designed this cartridge instead of just going with the .348 Winchester. I can only assume there is a good reason. Looking at the data it appears that the DC will easily equal the Winchester and You can easily add a scope as well. Why would one invest this kind of money in a rifle ?. Well, can't really say for sure but some folks get it and some folks don't. Remember that this conversion also includes a custom set of dies that cost 200.00 as well as the base gun, another 500.00. If a person already had a 1895 rifle to send to him the cost would be considerably less. If you have ever owned a David Clements firearm you would agree that they are a first class product.IMHO.
OK, who will be the 5th person to own one of these unique rifles.?

[pharmseller]

If you have ever owned a David Clements firearm you would agree that they are a first class product.IMHO.
OK, who will be the 5th person to own one of these unique rifles.?

As nice as these may be, I think I'll stick with my model 71s.

Q

[38 WCF]

A picture of the cartridge.
180 gr. Hawk 200 gr. Hornady 200 gr. plain base cast by Mountain Molds.

[Hobie]

I do not know why DC designed this cartridge instead of just going with the .348 Winchester. I can only assume there is a good reason. Looking at the data it appears that the DC will easily equal the Winchester and You can easily add a scope as well. Why would one invest this kind of money in a rifle ?. Well, can't really say for sure but some folks get it and some folks don't. Remember that this conversion also includes a custom set of dies that cost 200.00 as well as the base gun, another 500.00. If a person already had a 1895 rifle to send to him the cost would be considerably less. If you have ever owned a David Clements firearm you would agree that they are a first class product.IMHO.
OK, who will be the 5th person to own one of these unique rifles.?

I think the cost of brass might be a consideration... Yeah, that's it!

Heck it is just fun!

[38 WCF]

Since the Marlin M1895 accepts 50 Alaskan, a non-bottle necked cartridge, and 470 Turnbull, a bottle necked cartridge, without resorting to altering M1895's cartridge length, and 510 Kodiak Express, a bottle necked cartridge with OAL of 2.73 inches -- all of which are based upon the 348/50-110 basis case -- I kind've doubt there's a problem getting the 348 Winchester cartridge to feed, so long as OAL is accepted by the particular M1895 conversion.say and then don't say it.
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I E mailed David Clements and he said The marlin action was to short for the 348 Winchester. His design is made from readily available brass. Uses an affordable and readily available base gun with minimal alterations needed. Equals the ballistics of the 348 Winchester. He said " The 348 DC is simply an improved cartridge design over the old .348 and fits in the Marlin 1895"

[mick27]

hi guys,

maybe i'm the fifth ?? i'll have mine in a week or two.. i'm going for the 24" bbl, color case receiver, and a few other extras.. i hope to shoot cast and jacketed boolits.. i'll let you know..

new here, looks like a great place to be !!!

mick27

ps. if clements makes it, i'm there !!

update, 9-15-08, i'm actually #4, 38 WCF is #3, according to david clements...

[Jarhead]

Very nice looking rifle...sounds like fun to me I paid 2K for my 1895GS 45-70-457WW (Alaska Guide Model) It's only money...have fun and enjoy Got a few thousand tied up in Model 71s too...it's all fun.

Love that sling! Where did you get it?

[1886]

hi guys,

maybe i'm the fifth ?? i'll have mine in a week or two.. i'm going for the 24" bbl, color case receiver, and a few other extras.. i hope to shoot cast and jacketed boolits.. i'll let you know..

new here, looks like a great place to be !!!

mick27

ps. if clements makes it, i'm there !!

Welcome. Sounds like you have a great project cookin'. Look forward to seeing and hearing about it. 1886.

[O.S.O.K.]

Very Nice! Indeed! I like it.

The cartridge is a winner, though I will say that its really just 100 fps more than a .356 Winchester, which can be made from a 35 Rem 336RC for $150 more than the cost of the rifle by Regan Nonneman.

I did that and really like the rifle.

But its not as nice at yours pictured. Though, we do share the same Montana sling



But one of us has ours on backwards.... me or you? Mine works good as pictured - no slippage... and the logo is right side up...

[Jarhead]

Very Nice! Indeed! I like it.

The cartridge is a winner, though I will say that its really just 100 fps more than a .356 Winchester, which can be made from a 35 Rem 336RC for $150 more than the cost of the rifle by Regan Nonneman.

I did that and really like the rifle.

But its not as nice at yours pictured. Though, we do share the same Montana sling



But one of us has ours on backwards.... me or you? Mine works good as pictured - no slippage... and the logo is right side up...

Sweet! Like your rifle too! Very nice...Montana Sling? Where can I pick one of these up from? Love the 'plain Jane" Butt Cuff too....

[O.S.O.K.]

Sweet! Like your rifle too! Very nice...Montana Sling? Where can I pick one of these up from? Love the 'plain Jane" Butt Cuff too....

Thanks - no custom features of course, but a good plain jane shooter if you're just after the balistics. And the buttcuff and sling are both available at Cabelas. The slings are also sold by Brownells - and that's the best price if you have a C&R or FFL, etc. that you send to them - they give you a substantial discount.

[6pt-sika]

Well I was getting a good bit intrested in this cartridge and I still am !

But now that the cat jumped from the bag and I know Marlin will bring out the 338 Marlin Express .

Well you can just imagine which direction I;m heading

I am hoping Marlin will bring the 338 Express out in two models as they did with the 308 Express . Then it's my intention to get one of each version ! And I'm hopping I can get the pair for $1400 or less

Which would be about what I figure I would have tied up in a 348 DC once I figure in the cost of the rifle

[brucew44guns]

I hunted in the Tillamook Burn in North Western Oregon for 8 years starting back in about 1981. A large spike Elk ran out of the bush one time, stopped about 80 steps from me, broadside. My Model 71 was ready with a 200 Grain Silver Tip. The bullet went in just behind the front leg on the right side, and really messed up his ability to pump blood and breathe properly. He took about 6 steps, and fell like an A-Bomb had exploded inside him. So, if your Marlin .348 works even better than that, imagine how much meat you will have in the freezer at all times. Great cartridge I think, I believe you made a good investment. Too bad Marlin never chambered for it.

[mick27]

hi guys,

just to let you know, i got my gun last friday (10/24), just beautiful, the metal work is superb, the case colors are incredible, if i can figure out how to post photos, i will !! hope to shoot it tomorrow, will let you know.. according to david clements, the guy with #2 is getting 5/8" groups @100yrds w/ horn 200gr. thanks again david for the great work !!!!

mick

[Rimfire McNutjob]

Looking forward to the photos. Sounds like a nice piece.

[Mike D.]

Hmm. The cartridge looks suspiciously like the .33 WCF. I could probably match the ballistics in one of my old 1886s. No question of action strength there.

[Gun Smith]

I'll bet that sucker kills at both ends!