Politics - McCain taps AK governor Sarah Palin as VP

Old Ironsights · Post by **Old Ironsights** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:13 pm

Looks like if Indiana is a close race I'll be voting for a Woman...

(If we're not close in either direction I'm still going to write in Paul as a protest. Should have been Paul/Palin...

)

VOTE FOR A WOMAN FOR A CHANGE!

DixieBoy · Post by **DixieBoy** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:47 pm

I just got in from second job a little before 9 p.m. and only now getting the news. Been plugged in to Fox News Channel, getting the scoop on this lady. Then called my best ol' buddy, who works as an electrician up in Prudhoe Bay about half of every year. He tells me that Mrs. Palin is solid pro-gun, friendly to oil business, in favor of moving ahead with drilling in ANWAR, has guts when it comes to challenging corruption in her own party - and winning! - and has solid pro-business experience, and a shining pro-life record, both personal and professional.

Guys (and gals), McCain just hit one out of the park. I believe that he won the election with this pick. And I agree with Old Ironsights' bumper sticker on this one too!

This was a good day for the good guys (and gals). I'm really happy about this. - DixieBoy

Lastmohecken · Post by **Lastmohecken** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:07 pm

This really didn't surprise me, I expected Romnie, however, She was in the back of my mind, I just didn't think he had the guts to choose her. I would of had to vote for McCain, anyway. But this really excites me, maybe America still has a chance.

RGS · Post by **RGS** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:28 pm

McCain has 3 months left to live down about 20 years of isle crossing linking himself to some of the zanier liberal democratics. I don't trust him. Sarah Palin may be the next Margaret Thatcher, but we don't know that. She could also be Dan Quail with nice legs. If the ticket wins, McCain will call the shots, and it will be up to us to make the ground shake when he dances across the isle to make nice with Nancy and whatshisname in the House.

My goal remains the same. 8 years of reloading supplies by inauguration time... no mater which of these characters wins. Which is, by the way, what I tell them when they call for money.

Slick · Post by **Slick** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:58 pm

She's everything a real man could want AND still is "easy on the eyes"...

Post by **Old Savage** » Sat Aug 30, 2008 12:05 am

Hard to think less of democrats than I already did but after hearing nobama and other dems about PALIN they are at a new low.

cshold · Post by **cshold** » Sat Aug 30, 2008 6:42 am

Slick wrote:She's everything a real man could want AND still is "easy on the eyes"...

She is "HOT"

ByronG · Post by **ByronG** » Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:44 am

She's young, pretty and pro-gun but is she really VP material?

Y'all might think on these points a little:

"McCain has chosen a small-town gal without credentials to be one heartbeat away from the U. S. presidency. Just 20 months ago, according to her biography, she was mayor of a town of 8,000, in Alaska. She then took on the Republican establishment and, after failing to become Lieutenant Governor in 2004, became Alaska's governor in 2006. That's just 20 months, or little more than 80 weeks, as an "executive" running a government. A trifling government compared with the American federal system.

Her selection is risky and could end up destroying his candidacy. She flunks the two requirements needed to be a qualified Vice-President:

1. Vice-Presidents must assume the reins should the President become ill or deceased. This is a very real possibility, given McCain's age, cancer and other physical problems. How dare McCain put someone into one of the biggest, most important jobs in the world who is mere months out of running a tiny village in an isolated part of the country? John McCain's pick does not represent a proper succession plan should he leave office. This is irresponsible to the world, never mind the United States.

2. Vice-Presidents also chair the Senate. Successful ones are savvy and experienced operators at brokering deals and forging bipartisan coalitions. She has no experience in this regard and has not met any of the Senators, except those from Alaska, McCain and a few others. Her selection insures Congressional gridlock and represents a disdain for the importance of the executive-legislative relationship.

So what is she offering the ticket?

A feeding frenzy for the press and blogosphere that will capture the public's attention and drive traffic to the Republican convention next week.

A cynical, transparent patchwork quilt of brand "extensions:" She is female (to attract disenchanted Hillary voters); her husband is Inuit/Eskimo (to attract 10,000 Inuits in Alaska); her husband works for Big Oil (to attract global warming deniers); she hunts (to attract National Rifle Association guys); she took on the lousy Republicans in her state (to attract voters who like people who take on lousy Republicans).

As for "life experiences," she is a former beauty queen and journalist who married her high school sweetheart, had five kids and has built her political career in minuscule Wasilla, Alaska."

shdwlkr · Post by **shdwlkr** » Sat Aug 30, 2008 9:19 am

bryon
then you go with the dem candidate who will not go and be around our troops(in case you forgot we have lots of them dieing and being wounded daily), will not say the pledge, has to be forced to wear a lapel pin of the American flag, has said he will listen to Muslims ahead of anyone, Will do as the UN asks even if it violates the US Constitution, knows almost nothing about leading a nation and is as green as Paulin but then he doesn't look as good so you might like him
Just wished I knew who would lead America back to her roots and regain some of the world respect we have lost in the last few years.
The old guy knows what it means to send troops into a conflict, has 26 years of being around the government, is known in Washington, has picked a very good choice for VP and I think deep down he loves America something the other guy doesn't have a clue as to what that means. The old guy has been late getting to getting to speaking events because he was talking with vets and those home on leave yup you right why would we want someone who cares about those who fight, get wounded and die for America.
In case you are wondering Yea I am a DAV and dam proud of the fact I stood up when America called. What have you done for America?? As said before I still don't know who to vote for and most likely will not until a day or two before elections and then hope the best choice wins be it who I vote for or not.

AJMD429 · Post by **AJMD429** » Sat Aug 30, 2008 9:27 am

Old Ironsights wrote:Looks like if Indiana is a close race I'll be voting for a Woman...
(If we're not close in either direction I'm still going to write in Paul as a protest. Should have been Paul/Palin... )

Same here.

If he'd nominated Romney

I'd have been tempted to vote for Obama/Biden just do make our nation's death quicker, like a more humanitarian suicide, vs. the slow death we'd have had with that kind of Republican team.

It is comical to see the Dems try to criticize Palin when everything they say bad about McCain is doubly true about Biden, and everything they say bad about Palin is doubly true about Obama . . . It just shows how hypocritical they can be.

I dislike taxing corporations (governments should be HONEST and tax citizens directly with an up-front sales tax [i.e. FairTax] or disallow witholding and come door to door to demand cash on new year's eve) but I like how she got the oil money into the hands of the citizens, vs. government coffers.

44LVR · Post by **44LVR** » Sat Aug 30, 2008 10:44 am

ByronG wrote:She's young, pretty and pro-gun but is she really VP material?

Y'all might think on these points a little:

"McCain has chosen a small-town gal without credentials to be one heartbeat away from the U. S. presidency. Just 20 months ago, according to her biography, she was mayor of a town of 8,000, in Alaska. She then took on the Republican establishment and, after failing to become Lieutenant Governor in 2004, became Alaska's governor in 2006. That's just 20 months, or little more than 80 weeks, as an "executive" running a government. A trifling government compared with the American federal system.

Her selection is risky and could end up destroying his candidacy. She flunks the two requirements needed to be a qualified Vice-President:

1. Vice-Presidents must assume the reins should the President become ill or deceased. This is a very real possibility, given McCain's age, cancer and other physical problems. How dare McCain put someone into one of the biggest, most important jobs in the world who is mere months out of running a tiny village in an isolated part of the country? John McCain's pick does not represent a proper succession plan should he leave office. This is irresponsible to the world, never mind the United States.

2. Vice-Presidents also chair the Senate. Successful ones are savvy and experienced operators at brokering deals and forging bipartisan coalitions. She has no experience in this regard and has not met any of the Senators, except those from Alaska, McCain and a few others. Her selection insures Congressional gridlock and represents a disdain for the importance of the executive-legislative relationship.

So what is she offering the ticket?

A feeding frenzy for the press and blogosphere that will capture the public's attention and drive traffic to the Republican convention next week.

A cynical, transparent patchwork quilt of brand "extensions:" She is female (to attract disenchanted Hillary voters); her husband is Inuit/Eskimo (to attract 10,000 Inuits in Alaska); her husband works for Big Oil (to attract global warming deniers); she hunts (to attract National Rifle Association guys); she took on the lousy Republicans in her state (to attract voters who like people who take on lousy Republicans).

As for "life experiences," she is a former beauty queen and journalist who married her high school sweetheart, had five kids and has built her political career in minuscule Wasilla, Alaska."

But the alternative is Nobama and Biden. 2 of the biggest anti gunners America has seen.

44

hfcable · Post by **hfcable** » Sat Aug 30, 2008 11:09 am

ByronG,

well,uhhhh,...you know she's kinda been the governor for 2 years, and has rooted out serious corruption in her own party, been engineering the building of an enormous multibillion dollar gas pipeline,etc,etc
not exactly inexperienced, unlike Obama who has basically done nothing but come up thru the illinois/Daley empire/corruption as usual machine!

OJ · Post by OJ » Sat Aug 30, 2008 11:22 am

hfcable wrote:ByronG,

well,uhhhh,...you know she's kinda been the governor for 2 years, and has rooted out serious corruption in her own party, been engineering the building of an enormous multibillion dollar gas pipeline,etc,etc
not exactly inexperienced, unlike Obama who has basically done nothing but come up thru the illinois/Daley empire/corruption as usual machine!

RIGHT ON !!!

In the final analysis, she has more "EXECUTIVE EXPERIENCE" than Obama, Biden, and McCain combined !!!

O.S.O.K. · Post by **O.S.O.K.** » Sat Aug 30, 2008 11:44 am

McCain whent up several levels with me for this pick. I was voting for him regardless but this makes me feel much better about it.

The guy does have good judgement and with trouble brewing in Russia, I want him at the helm.

And I think he'll pick good SCOTUS nominees too - probably the most important reason to vote for him in the long run...

Post by **Old Savage** » Sat Aug 30, 2008 11:53 am

I'll be voting the PALIN/McCAIN ticket.

RGS · Post by **RGS** » Sat Aug 30, 2008 12:43 pm

ByronG wrote:She's young, pretty and pro-gun but is she really VP material?

Y'all might think on these points a little:

"McCain has chosen a small-town gal without credentials to be one heartbeat away from the U. S. presidency. Just 20 months ago, according to her biography, she was mayor of a town of 8,000, in Alaska. She then took on the Republican establishment and, after failing to become Lieutenant Governor in 2004, became Alaska's governor in 2006. That's just 20 months, or little more than 80 weeks, as an "executive" running a government. A trifling government compared with the American federal system.

Her selection is risky and could end up destroying his candidacy. She flunks the two requirements needed to be a qualified Vice-President:

1. Vice-Presidents must assume the reins should the President become ill or deceased. This is a very real possibility, given McCain's age, cancer and other physical problems. How dare McCain put someone into one of the biggest, most important jobs in the world who is mere months out of running a tiny village in an isolated part of the country? John McCain's pick does not represent a proper succession plan should he leave office. This is irresponsible to the world, never mind the United States.

2. Vice-Presidents also chair the Senate. Successful ones are savvy and experienced operators at brokering deals and forging bipartisan coalitions. She has no experience in this regard and has not met any of the Senators, except those from Alaska, McCain and a few others. Her selection insures Congressional gridlock and represents a disdain for the importance of the executive-legislative relationship.

So what is she offering the ticket?

A feeding frenzy for the press and blogosphere that will capture the public's attention and drive traffic to the Republican convention next week.

A cynical, transparent patchwork quilt of brand "extensions:" She is female (to attract disenchanted Hillary voters); her husband is Inuit/Eskimo (to attract 10,000 Inuits in Alaska); her husband works for Big Oil (to attract global warming deniers); she hunts (to attract National Rifle Association guys); she took on the lousy Republicans in her state (to attract voters who like people who take on lousy Republicans).

As for "life experiences," she is a former beauty queen and journalist who married her high school sweetheart, had five kids and has built her political career in minuscule Wasilla, Alaska."

If your analysis is correct, and her selection insures Congressional gridlock, them maybe I judged her too harshly earlier. With the crowd in the Congress now, gridlock is a good thing. The more they fight among themselves the less damage to we the people. I don't expect Harry Reid or Nancy Pelosi will allow any meaningful positive legislation see the light of day. Any judicial appointments will be stalled, derailed or destroyed as a matter of course. That's Nancy's job.

It is the President's job to take his case directly to the people in an honest, energetic and inspirational manner. If there is legislation or and appointment stalled in Congress that is important to him, it is up to him to inspire the American people. He must have the personality, intelligence ( and a bit of showmanship) to blow past the press coverage and connect with American voters.

The main functions of the Vice President is to fill in the ticket, be a good campaigner and pull enough votes for the ticket to win. We shall see what Palin can deliver.

mklwhite · Post by **mklwhite** » Sat Aug 30, 2008 1:13 pm

Old Savage wrote:I'll be voting the PALIN/McCAIN ticket.

+1

Slick · Post by **Slick** » Sat Aug 30, 2008 3:27 pm

OJ wrote: In the final analysis, she has more "EXECUTIVE EXPERIENCE" than Obama, Biden, and McCain combined !!!

That's the way I see it... Running a state (as Governor) certainly is better experience than the congressional experience (that obama has so little of).

brucew44guns · Post by **brucew44guns** » Sat Aug 30, 2008 3:40 pm

One of Obamas comments at the Dem convention, was that concerning the 2nd Ammendment, "we don't need to make it legal for AK 47's to get into the hands of criminals".

I bet Palin would set that comment straight real fast, as she has a passion for firearms and their use in her life and history. She knows how to answer questions on the 2nd Ammendment probably better than any candidate running right now, and with ease too. I slept a little better last night.

AJMD429 · Post by **AJMD429** » Sat Aug 30, 2008 4:16 pm

Bottom line is that a pro-Second Amendment candidate leaves citizens with the trump card; no matter what other loony positions they hold, if the citizenry has the trump card, at least hope is preserved for preserving the U.S.A. as our founders intended.

Thus, I am a one-issue voter nearly always.

Think about it - if a house guest asked you "do you have any guns - where are they - I need to have control of them" wouldn't you you start to develop a bit of distrust of them right away? OTOH if you had a real loser needing shelter for the night, but you and family could each sleep with a loaded 12 gauge, wouldn't you worry alot less?

ByronG · Post by **ByronG** » Sat Aug 30, 2008 6:27 pm

shdwlkr wrote:bryon
then you go with the dem candidate who will not go and be around our troops(in case you forgot we have lots of them dieing and being wounded daily), will not say the pledge, has to be forced to wear a lapel pin of the American flag, has said he will listen to Muslims ahead of anyone, Will do as the UN asks even if it violates the US Constitution, knows almost nothing about leading a nation and is as green as Paulin but then he doesn't look as good so you might like him
Just wished I knew who would lead America back to her roots and regain some of the world respect we have lost in the last few years.
The old guy knows what it means to send troops into a conflict, has 26 years of being around the government, is known in Washington, has picked a very good choice for VP and I think deep down he loves America something the other guy doesn't have a clue as to what that means. The old guy has been late getting to getting to speaking events because he was talking with vets and those home on leave yup you right why would we want someone who cares about those who fight, get wounded and die for America.
In case you are wondering Yea I am a DAV and dam proud of the fact I stood up when America called. What have you done for America?? As said before I still don't know who to vote for and most likely will not until a day or two before elections and then hope the best choice wins be it who I vote for or not.

Ooops, my bad! I should have added the quote was emailed to me. I don't know its origin but it reads like a press report. I threw it in because I think its food for thought and because I just don't see things with black an white clarity.

As for what I have done for America I can't say I did a whole lot. I served two tours in RVN but I'm not sure what it did for my country and pretty darn sure it never helped theirs.

shdwlkr · Post by **shdwlkr** » Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:30 pm

byron
You never know how little you did and just how big a thing was for some other group. Don't put yourself down for the length of time you played.
I have some really bad nightmarish dreams that haunt me from time to time but I can usually realize it isn't real just a bad memory and put it in the vault and lock it away.
I have no use for the Indiana upstart who wants the Presidency with his views on America. I think my last post showed that my bad but it is time for the silent majority to show the loud minority what we think

Old Ironsights · Post by **Old Ironsights** » Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:55 pm

You guys have got to read what the Hillary PUMAs have to say about Palin...

It's SWEET!

http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/disc ... hp?t=26109

Note that some of these Fem's think Ms. Palin't husband is a "Stud"... makes me think...

"And behold a Palin horse, and she that sat upon him, her name was Sarah and destruction followed her upon the Obama Biden host...."

Old Ironsights · Post by **Old Ironsights** » Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:57 pm

shdwlkr wrote:... I have no use for the Indiana upstart who wants the Presidency with his views on America. I think my last post showed that my bad but it is time for the silent majority to show the loud minority what we think

You take that back. BO does't come frome here. He comes from the Armpit of America... Chicago ILLANNOY... not Indiana. Please get it right. Thank you.

HATCHETTJACK · Post by **HATCHETTJACK** » Sat Aug 30, 2008 9:45 pm

i think she has added some much needed energy... she sounds very proffessional and i believe she can handle the job fine... if i was biden i wouldnt want to have to debate her

FWiedner · Post by **FWiedner** » Sat Aug 30, 2008 10:19 pm

Slick wrote:
OJ wrote: In the final analysis, she has more "EXECUTIVE EXPERIENCE" than Obama, Biden, and McCain combined !!!
That's the way I see it... Running a state (as Governor) certainly is better experience than the congressional experience (that obama has so little of).

AK has a population smaller than most cities in the lower 47. Before that, she was the mayor of a town of about 400 people.

She has about as much executive experience as the president of your local PTA.

El Chivo · Post by **El Chivo** » Sat Aug 30, 2008 10:46 pm

ByronG wrote:She's young, pretty and pro-gun but is she really VP material?

Y'all might think on these points a little:

"McCain has chosen a small-town gal without credentials to be one heartbeat away from the U. S. presidency. Just 20 months ago, according to her biography, she was mayor of a town of 8,000, in Alaska. She then took on the Republican establishment and, after failing to become Lieutenant Governor in 2004, became Alaska's governor in 2006. That's just 20 months, or little more than 80 weeks, as an "executive" running a government. A trifling government compared with the American federal system.

Her selection is risky and could end up destroying his candidacy. She flunks the two requirements needed to be a qualified Vice-President:

1. Vice-Presidents must assume the reins should the President become ill or deceased. This is a very real possibility, given McCain's age, cancer and other physical problems. How dare McCain put someone into one of the biggest, most important jobs in the world who is mere months out of running a tiny village in an isolated part of the country? John McCain's pick does not represent a proper succession plan should he leave office. This is irresponsible to the world, never mind the United States.

2. Vice-Presidents also chair the Senate. Successful ones are savvy and experienced operators at brokering deals and forging bipartisan coalitions. She has no experience in this regard and has not met any of the Senators, except those from Alaska, McCain and a few others. Her selection insures Congressional gridlock and represents a disdain for the importance of the executive-legislative relationship.

So what is she offering the ticket?

A feeding frenzy for the press and blogosphere that will capture the public's attention and drive traffic to the Republican convention next week.

A cynical, transparent patchwork quilt of brand "extensions:" She is female (to attract disenchanted Hillary voters); her husband is Inuit/Eskimo (to attract 10,000 Inuits in Alaska); her husband works for Big Oil (to attract global warming deniers); she hunts (to attract National Rifle Association guys); she took on the lousy Republicans in her state (to attract voters who like people who take on lousy Republicans).

As for "life experiences," she is a former beauty queen and journalist who married her high school sweetheart, had five kids and has built her political career in minuscule Wasilla, Alaska."

it's been great hearing these libs try to come up with an angle against her...if they don't shut up it will boomerang on them.

Bogie35 · Post by **Bogie35** » Sat Aug 30, 2008 11:39 pm

FWiedner wrote:
AK has a population smaller than most cities in the lower 47. Before that, she was the mayor of a town of about 400 people.

She has about as much executive experience as the president of your local PTA.

First of all, Wasilla has a population of about 10,000. Secondly, as governor she has made a huge difference in her state, which is more than any of the others (including McCain himself) can say. She's not a "politician". She actually DOES something. It's better to have someone who has had a positive effect on a few thousand, rather than someone who has had zero effect on millions!

And now that you mention it, if the president of my local PTA were running, I would vote for her instead of anyone else on the ballot this year! And America would be all the better for it! She's Pro-Life, Pro-Gun, she's in favor of finding alternative fuels instead of putting money into the pockets of middle eastern terrorists, and she's in favor of holding parents responsible for raising their children instead of expecting the government to do it for them. Isn't that what we need? You know, a REAL person with real live common sense, instead of just another talking head politician? I may write her in.

If McCain/Palin wins, at least half of the Executive Office will be willing to stand up for "we the people".

Sincerely,
bogie

OJ · Post by OJ » Sat Aug 30, 2008 11:55 pm

FWiedner wrote:
Slick wrote:
OJ wrote: In the final analysis, she has more "EXECUTIVE EXPERIENCE" than Obama, Biden, and McCain combined !!!
That's the way I see it... Running a state (as Governor) certainly is better experience than the congressional experience (that obama has so little of).
AK has a population smaller than most cities in the lower 47. Before that, she was the mayor of a town of about 400 people.

She has about as much executive experience as the president of your local PTA.

Well - she's been governor of Alaska for some 20 months - that's a lot bigger than our PTA. Wikipedia reports the town she was mayor of as follows -

"Wasilla is part of the Anchorage, Alaska Metropolitan Statistical Area. As of the 2000 census, its population was 5,470. The 2005 estimate gives it a population of 8,471,[1] although the city website lists the population as 6,715.[2]"

And from Wikipedia : -

Alaska (IPA: /əˈlæskə/, Russian: Аляска Alyaska) is a state in the United States of America, in the northwest of the North American continent. It is the largest U.S. state by area (being more than twice the area of Texas, the second largest), and one of the wealthiest (per capita).

Population Ranked 47th in the US
- Total 683,478 (2007 est.) [1]
- Density 1.2/sq mi
0.46/km² (Ranked 50th in the US)
- Median income US$54,627 (6th)

Somewhat more than 400 in the city and the state more than most cities in the lower 48 (count-em there are really 48 here) - and again, a lot bigger than any PTA I ever was part of. I think any discussion of "SARAH BARRACUDA PALIN" should stick to the facts and not incorrect and fictitious figures.

FWiedner · Post by **FWiedner** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:21 am

Sorry, I never count CA as part of the USA.

Not sure where I got that 400 number. I guess I just misremembered what I read. Sorry to misrepresent.

Looks like there could be 5000 people in her PTA.

You're absolutely right.

She's ready.

Bogie35 · Post by **Bogie35** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:25 am

FWiedner wrote:Sorry, I never count CA as part of the USA.

Not sure where I got that 400 number. I guess I just misremembered what I read. Sorry to misrepresent.

Looks like there could be 5000 people in her PTA.

You're absolutely right.

She's ready.

Ok...that was good!

bogie

Old Ironsights · Post by **Old Ironsights** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 7:32 am

FWiedner wrote:Sorry, I never count CA as part of the USA.

Not sure where I got that 400 number. I guess I just misremembered what I read. Sorry to misrepresent.

Looks like there could be 5000 people in her PTA.

You're absolutely right.

She's ready.

It's still more "C"-level experience than Osnoba J Biden & McChurian combined.

That said:

Alaska has been trying for 30 years to put together a pipeline deal through Canada to supply natural gas to the lower 48, and have blown it every time, but Governor Sarah Palin has got it done in short order. Read how hard nosed she was about jobs for Alaskans, the environment and use of in-state resources, think of the number of Americans this will put to work, the boon to our economy, a plentiful and stable supply of energy for the future. At an estimated cost of 30 billion dollars, it will be the largest construction project in U.S. history.

To the liberal elitists who decry she has never accomplished nothing and think she will be a easy push over in this election cycle, I beg to differ, methinks if they choose to ride this tigress, they will find trying to dismount a very dangerous task indeed. Politically speaking, what has Obama, Biden, or that matter McCain, ever done economically for the nation that even comes close to this?

Article was written before her pick as VP:

"Energy: As congressional Democrats dither on a vote for oil drilling, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has pushed through a gas pipeline project to bring new supply and price relief to the lower 48."

http://www.investors.com/editorial/edit ... 3123946167

Hmmm...

As was said elsewhere: Palin is Obama's Ginger Rogers. She can do everything he can... backwards... in a dress and high heels.

And she's "only" the VP pick.

AJMD429 · Post by **AJMD429** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:07 am

FWiedner wrote: She has about as much executive experience as the president of your local PTA.

If it came down to the usual Republican and Democrat candidates we've been offered in the past, with the possible exception of Reagan, I'd rather have had someone picked at random from the phone book

; you might get someone stupid, you might get someone dishonest, and you might even get someone with political connections, but odds are you'd not get someone who was ALL THREE, which is usually what we're offered. With all the infrastructure of government surrounding the president, I think anyone with integrity and intelligence could do well, with even a little experience in the executive branch of government.

Having said that, I'd still have preferred Ron Paul be Prez or VP more than anyone else.

Old Time Hunter · Post by **Old Time Hunter** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 11:05 am

ByronG wrote:She's young, pretty and pro-gun but is she really VP material?

Y'all might think on these points a little:

"McCain has chosen a small-town gal without credentials to be one heartbeat away from the U. S. presidency. Just 20 months ago, according to her biography, she was mayor of a town of 8,000, in Alaska. She then took on the Republican establishment and, after failing to become Lieutenant Governor in 2004, became Alaska's governor in 2006. That's just 20 months, or little more than 80 weeks, as an "executive" running a government. A trifling government compared with the American federal system.

Her selection is risky and could end up destroying his candidacy. She flunks the two requirements needed to be a qualified Vice-President:

1. Vice-Presidents must assume the reins should the President become ill or deceased. This is a very real possibility, given McCain's age, cancer and other physical problems. How dare McCain put someone into one of the biggest, most important jobs in the world who is mere months out of running a tiny village in an isolated part of the country? John McCain's pick does not represent a proper succession plan should he leave office. This is irresponsible to the world, never mind the United States.

2. Vice-Presidents also chair the Senate. Successful ones are savvy and experienced operators at brokering deals and forging bipartisan coalitions. She has no experience in this regard and has not met any of the Senators, except those from Alaska, McCain and a few others. Her selection insures Congressional gridlock and represents a disdain for the importance of the executive-legislative relationship.

So what is she offering the ticket?

A feeding frenzy for the press and blogosphere that will capture the public's attention and drive traffic to the Republican convention next week.

A cynical, transparent patchwork quilt of brand "extensions:" She is female (to attract disenchanted Hillary voters); her husband is Inuit/Eskimo (to attract 10,000 Inuits in Alaska); her husband works for Big Oil (to attract global warming deniers); she hunts (to attract National Rifle Association guys); she took on the lousy Republicans in her state (to attract voters who like people who take on lousy Republicans).

As for "life experiences," she is a former beauty queen and journalist who married her high school sweetheart, had five kids and has built her political career in minuscule Wasilla, Alaska."

Thanks Bryon and Fred, now I know I'll vote for her ticket. A REAL outsider, still manages to get things done, and not a whole lot of time to form bad habits of professional politicians. Usually from my experience anyways, the smaller, but not too small, political systems allow for more multi-tasking which equates into more hands on experience of more different facets of the government. Those that have not, or will not get their hands dirty doing a job, really do not understand what it really takes to get 'er done. Instead they rely on others, usually those that only got the job thru party patronism, that do not have an inkling of what it takes. Palin, at this time is the ultimate outsider, even fought her own party, coupled with the fact she espouses most of my own idealogy....SHE's the ticket!!!!

Idahoser · Post by **Idahoser** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 11:35 am

Old Ironsights wrote:Looks like if Indiana is a close race I'll be voting for a Woman...

(If we're not close in either direction I'm still going to write in Paul as a protest. Should have been Paul/Palin... )

VOTE FOR A WOMAN FOR A CHANGE!

I need that on a bumper sticker. I'm not kidding. To go over "We're Screwed '08".

I may actually vote now.

OJ · Post by OJ » Sun Aug 31, 2008 11:52 am

FWiedner wrote:Sorry, I never count CA as part of the USA.

Not sure where I got that 400 number. I guess I just misremembered what I read. Sorry to misrepresent.

Looks like there could be 5000 people in her PTA.

You're absolutely right.

She's ready.

It's well known - it takes a really good man to admit such - and you sure proved you qualify - 100%

Thanks -

Post by **Old Savage** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 3:52 pm

Tom Brokaw said this AM - Alaska is a small state.

Brokaw

Not ready for prime time.

Kerry - the anti american lying traitor said she is Cheneyesque ???????? What ??????

Obama said "more of the same" What ?????

What planet are these buffoons from?

winchester1886 · Post by **winchester1886** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 6:50 pm

ByronG, Some people rise to the occasion, and I think she has the mark.

Duff L Bagg · Post by **Duff L Bagg** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 7:44 pm

FWiedner wrote:Sorry, I never count CA as part of the USA.

Not sure where I got that 400 number. I guess I just misremembered what I read. Sorry to misrepresent.

Looks like there could be 5000 people in her PTA.

You're absolutely right.

She's ready.

I would rather see Palin in the V/P's Office than any of the usual Washington Suspects.

greasy dan · Post by **greasy dan** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:06 pm

Old Savage wrote:Tom Brokaw said this AM - Alaska is a small state.

Brokaw Not ready for prime time.

Kerry - the anti american lying traitor said she is Cheneyesque ???????? What ??????

Obama said "more of the same" What ?????

What planet are these buffoons from?

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Tom Brokaw (Liberal news media), Kerry (has-been Politician), and Obama (puppet of the DNC)... all will say whatever they think the general public (sheep) will buy... and Never have to back it up with small things like FACTS. Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTN3s2iVKKI
He says it better and quicker than I ever could... just watch the ears of impressionable young children.

With that said... I agree with most of you, on the choice for Republican VP. I have looked up everything I could find on her... she is the real deal. A straight talker, who walks the walk... and as some of you said, a real Looker. My wife (a hard-nosed Democrat) called me at work, the day McCain made the announcement. She was ecstatic.!! My oldest daughter called me from OK also... said Sarah Palin was hunting Cariboo when she got the call from McCain's HQ.
I just hope and Pray that MOST of the voting public will make the correct choice this fall.

Old Ironsights · Post by **Old Ironsights** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 11:00 pm

Old Savage wrote: ...Obama said "more of the same" What ?????

What planet are these buffoons from?

Obama sure couldn't say anything stupider. She is the Anti-Obama in so many ways. Here is a tiny bit of what John Kass (Chicago Trib) had to say...

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/colu ... 952.column

...all weekend, analysts will define Palin by gender, guns, her opposition to abortion, her Obama-like inexperience. Since most talking heads are themselves Beltway insiders, they might miss the point as they did with Obama:

It's the political reform, stupid!

The young Alaska Republican put her political career on the line by challenging the corrupt, old Alaskan Republican bulls on their sleazy pay-for-play politics and their use of the public trust to fill the pockets of their friends. She didn't merely talk about abstract change in Washington. She challenged corruption at home, challenged her own party bosses—some of whom are already in prison—at great risk to her political future.

It is something I've begged and begged Obama to do with the ham-fisted pols in Chicago and Illinois—to not merely talk about change far away, but to take a principled stand even if that stand runs counter to his political interests at home; to challenge the thugs of his own party, to give us a reason to believe he's the man he says he is. He has politely declined.

In this, (declining to do right) Obama obviously has more experience than Palin.

More of the same corruption Barry? I think not.

OJ · Post by OJ » Sun Aug 31, 2008 11:36 pm

Personally, I think there is something here even more important than just the choice of Sarah Palin. For the first time, I think we see clear evidence that McCain is really smart enough to be our president. Whether the choice of VP candidate was his choice or his advisors, he was smart enough to listen to that advice but, the timing of the announcement of the choice was totally stunning - it completely blocked out the fawning the media was prepared to do over Obamas"s acceptance speech and relegated it to back pages instead of the front pages he wanted.

If he (and advisors) can deal so effectively with the opponent here that has such a large following in this country, doesn't that suggest he can deal with opponents - foreign heads of state - in international dealings? It does to me and stimulated me to do something (Scottish ancestry) I've rarely done - make a contribution to the campaign - and I plan to repeat that.

GO TEAM GOP !!!

Bogie35 · Post by **Bogie35** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:27 am

As far as standing for what she believes in, she's the manliest candidate we've seen on a ticket since Reagan!

But for me, it all boils down to this:

She's Pro-gun and she's extremely beautiful...which are two very good qualities in a woman.

If she likes college football, then I'm ashamed to say that I am in love with another man's wife!

bogie

bogus bill · Post by **bogus bill** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:45 am

I read sarah is a hunter, fishs, shooter and owns a float plane! That alone used to be my dream girl. She is pro life and proved it in the hardest way. The only snag I see is that she is accused of fireing the boss of a highway patrolman that wouldnt fire him. She has asked for a investigation on the matter. Seems the patrolman was her ex brother in law. A bad divorice was behind it etc. She is assemblies of god, me too. She got in and fired some corrupt people in office. She,s tough. She may not have a lot of experience - yet, but its more than obama! I would like to be a fly on the wall at hillarys place right now, that would be interesting! I never really looked at her before, but when I googled her I seen articles about that bridge to nowhere was stopped by her and ex ancorage mayor george wuerch. I never met him, but we are distant cousins. (my name is werch another spelling). That saved a lot of money!
She also returned a lot of oil money to state residents. I think she is a great choice and her in the running gives me renewed hope!

Old Ironsights · Post by **Old Ironsights** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 5:02 pm

As for "Troopergate" I'd have done the same thing. She fired the superior of a Scumbag because the superior wouldn't fire him.

From the Anchorage Daily News:

Before she was governor, Palin pushed for a trooper investigation of Wooten (the BiL) over a number of matters, including using a Taser on his stepson, illegally shooting a moose, and accusations of driving drunk. At one point, Palin and her husband hired a private investigator.

Troopers did investigate, and Wooten was suspended for 10 days, later reduced to five. That took care of it, Monegan said. But the Palin administration and Todd Palin wouldn't let go, he said...The personnel investigation began in April 2005, long before Palin became governor and months before her October 2005 announcement that she was running. The investigation into Wooten wrapped up in March 2006, before she was elected.

Troopers found four instances in which Wooten violated policy, broke the law, or both.

You have a Poaching, violent, drunken Cop and all they do is suspend him for 10 days and reduce him in grade? That is derilection of duty on the part of the commissioner of public safety.

You bet firing Monegan was the right thing to do - whether Wootens was her BiL or not.

45-70- · Post by **45-70-** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 6:22 pm

I took about a 6 month break from here and went to the Netherlands and Germany. It helps to get the hell out of the US once in awhile. I come back to our sleazy politics and just when I decide to write Benny Hill on my ballot, McCain gets smart. I knew Palin as the Wasilla mayor and voted for her to become gov. She is a no nonsense kind of gal. She came into office and fired some of the old republicans who were just on the payroll and had never worked. She didn't care if you were a repub, a dem or what you were, if you were the most qualified for the job you got it. She has the highest rating of any gov. Some people say she has no executive knowledge. They are wrong. You acquire more executive experience as a gov then you do as a senator. Some idiots say she has no experience dealing with foreigners. They are wrong. They obviously have never been to Alaska and seen how international the state is. Alaska deals a lot with Russia, Japan, China, Korea and other countries concerning oil, fish, mining and various things. I am voting for Palin, if McCain is with her, so be it.

FWiedner · Post by **FWiedner** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:37 pm

45-70- wrote:I took about a 6 month break from here and went to the Netherlands and Germany. It helps to get the hell out of the US once in awhile. I come back to our sleazy politics and just when I decide to write Benny Hill on my ballot, McCain gets smart. I knew Palin as the Wasilla mayor and voted for her to become gov. She is a no nonsense kind of gal. She came into office and fired some of the old republicans who were just on the payroll and had never worked. She didn't care if you were a repub, a dem or what you were, if you were the most qualified for the job you got it. She has the highest rating of any gov. Some people say she has no executive knowledge. They are wrong. You acquire more executive experience as a gov then you do as a senator. Some idiots say she has no experience dealing with foreigners. They are wrong. They obviously have never been to Alaska and seen how international the state is. Alaska deals a lot with Russia, Japan, China, Korea and other countries concerning oil, fish, mining and various things. I am voting for Palin, if McCain is with her, so be it.

A point of view worthy of consideration.

Thanks!

sore shoulder · Post by **sore shoulder** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:07 pm

I would vote for her just for this. The man who's children she bore is a lucky fellow.