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Ever had one of those "ah-ha" moments that just shows how things creep into the public unconcious?
I was at Service Club meeting, and, as per usual for these type of organizations, we had a pre-meal "invocation".
Now, in this nice, generic, PC "invocation" about "Don't Fear/Trust in our Creator" I hear the following...
I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.
Now... anyone else here (besides me) able to cite the author? It sure ain't a preacher type, nor is it from any extant Theology...
And the person giving the Invocation had no clue...
Amazing.
C2N14... because life is not energetic enough. מנא, מנא, תקל, ופרסין Daniel 5:25-28... Got 7.62?
Not Depressed enough yet? Go read National Geographic, July 1976 Gott und Gewehr mit uns!
Now did you Google it, or are you one of the three people that read Dune..?
"If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men
shall possess the highest seats in Government,
our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots
to prevent its ruin." Samuel Adams
deerwhacker444 wrote:Now did you Google it, or are you one of the three people that read Dune..?
I read Dune in... oh... 1978 or so. I tried to read the sequals, but I could never get into them. Too messianic. (The National Lampoon book "DOON" was a hoot though...)
But the "Litany against Fear" is one of those things that stick with you.
I thought the Movie version wasn't too bad, all things considered. Liked Patrick Stewart's role.
C2N14... because life is not energetic enough. מנא, מנא, תקל, ופרסין Daniel 5:25-28... Got 7.62?
Not Depressed enough yet? Go read National Geographic, July 1976 Gott und Gewehr mit uns!
O.S.O.K. wrote:That's where I saw it... the witches - what do you call em.... that's one of their meditations - I think Maud Dieb (sp) was taught this right?
Man, its been a while since I read that.
Bene Gesserit.
It's the meditation you are to use during their "trial by pain" (Death/Alternate test) where the if you fail to meet your fear the nuns kill you.
C2N14... because life is not energetic enough. מנא, מנא, תקל, ופרסין Daniel 5:25-28... Got 7.62?
Not Depressed enough yet? Go read National Geographic, July 1976 Gott und Gewehr mit uns!
Dune - one of the hardest, but most satisfying reads I've had. But, once you get into it...
Jeepnik AKA "Old Eyes"
"Go low, go slow and preferably in the dark" The old Sarge (he was maybe 24.
"Freedom is never more that a generation from extinction" Ronald Reagan
"Every man should have at least one good rifle and know how to use it" Dad
Ease into it. Read one word at a time. That way it doesn't seem so overwhelming. Relax, you'll get used to it.
Jeepnik AKA "Old Eyes"
"Go low, go slow and preferably in the dark" The old Sarge (he was maybe 24.
"Freedom is never more that a generation from extinction" Ronald Reagan
"Every man should have at least one good rifle and know how to use it" Dad
Old Ironsights wrote:... if you fail to meet your fear the nuns kill you.
Boy, that about sums up going to parochial school...
Tom
(Maybe they should have used the invocation from that old movie Serial: "You-ness, Me-ness, Us-ness, We-ness. Your-ness, My-ness, Our-ness--Happiness!"
Tom
'A Man's got to have a code...
I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted and I won't be laid a hand on.
I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them." -John Bernard Books. Jan. 22, 1901
CJM wrote:Not so sure it isn't in a theology - after all the author did go on to found Scientology. And they don't let out what their theology really contains.
Nope. Different guy all together.
Frank Herbert (Dune) was a SUCCESSFUL SiFi author.
L Ron Hubbard (Battlefield Earth/Dianetics/Scientology) was a total flop as a legitimate author... and about everything else he tried except creating a "religion".
Contemporaries (along with Asimov & Heinlein) but VERY different people.
C2N14... because life is not energetic enough. מנא, מנא, תקל, ופרסין Daniel 5:25-28... Got 7.62?
Not Depressed enough yet? Go read National Geographic, July 1976 Gott und Gewehr mit uns!
Read the Dune Trilogy in high school, that puts it around 1973-4. Loved the books, have reread them a couple times over the years. I don't think he was trying to get people to worship his writing. Herbert did create a religion as the backdrop for his books and it allowed him to continue the story without recreating the world.
L Ron Hubbard was too wordy, he had to go into extreme detail and as a result his work bogged down a bit. Battlefield Earth was quite good, IMO, though long. He even got worse after that book. His later stuff didn't flow it just went on and on.
"People who object to weapons aren't abolishing violence, they're begging for rule by brute force, when the biggest, strongest animals among men were always automatically 'right.' Guns ended that, and social democracy is a hollow farce without an armed populace to make it work."
IMO, the "Litany Against Fear" is a practical and useful bit of philosophy.
Read all the Dune books. I thought that it was an odd and fascinating tale.
When the movie came out, I thought that it was very good except that I wasn't sure how anyone who had not read the books would be able to understand what was going on.
The made for TV mini-series Dune is much better than the big-screen movie.
Government office attracts the power-mad, yet it's people who just want to be left alone to live life on their own terms who are considered dangerous.
History teaches that it's a small window in which people can fight back before it is too dangerous to fight back.
I ate up the whole series, although, the last few were just 'cause I wanted to read the whole series. Great book.
The Nuns killed you if you failed because it 'proved' you were merely an animal and not human. Maybe we should enact a similar test for our political woes, if you are merely a liberal...
I enjoyed the first book pretty well. I read the next few because people said they were good, and I do like to finish series that I start. However I got to say I think the money made on the first book went into the same drugs that Lewis Carrol was on.
The kid's books are at least pleasant enough reading, but old man Frank was just toooooooo weird.
The movies were okay.
I was reading sci-fi long before I was a levergunner.
Relax, you'll get used to it.
