Politics - RKBA Quotes

[Haycock]

I am compiling a document of all the RKBA quotes I've collected, and I am hitting some discrepancies between versions. For example, does anyone which know which - if either - of these quotes attributed to G. Washington is correct (or more correct)?

"Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the people's liberty teeth keystone... the rifle and the pistol are equally indispensable... more than 99% of them by their silence indicate that they are in safe and sane hands. The very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference. When firearms go, all goes, we need them every hour.”

"Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence. To secure peace, security and happiness, the rifle and the pistol are equally indispensable. The very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference. They deserve a place of honor with all that is good."


Haycock

[The Lewis]

I don't know, but they both work for me.

[alnitak]

You might want to check out this thread for more quotes:

http://www.levergunscommunity.com/viewt ... &sk=t&sd=a

If you have any to add. please forward them to me. Thanks.

Never mind, I just looked at the old thread and the pages of quotes I had all are gone! I'm not sure what the system did to them, but here they are again. You may find some additional ones in this compilation.

“What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms." --Thomas Jefferson to William Stephens Smith, 1787

“If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government -- and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws.” -- Edward Abbey (1927-1989)

“If guns are outlawed, how will liberals collect taxes?” -- Anonymous

“Only an armed man can have political rights.” -- Old Swiss tradition

“The sword is more important than the shield, and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental”. -- John Steinbeck

“There are no such things as dangerous weapons. There are only dangerous men.” -- Robert Heinlein, Methuselah

“Nothing says, "Please don't rape me." like multiple jacketed hollow-points.” -- John Fogh

“The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun.” -- R. Buckminster Fuller

"After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn't do it." — William S. Burroughs

"What are they planning to do to normal, honest people, that they want us to be disarmed when they do it?" -- Keith R. Wood

“I am more afraid of an army of 100 sheep lead by a lion, than of an army of 100 lions lead by a sheep.” -- Tallyrand

“In Washington, there are two parties: The Stupid Party (the GOP) and The Evil Party (the Democrats). Occasionally they will collaborate to do something that is both stupid and evil. We call this “bipartisanship.” -- William N. Grigg

“No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government" -- Thomas Jefferson, 1 Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

“The best armor is a rapid and well-directed fire.” -- Admiral David Farragut

"The power of the sword, say the minority..., is in the hands of Congress. My friends and countrymen, it is not so, for THE POWERS OF THE SWORD ARE IN THE HANDS OF THE YEOMANRY OF AMERICA FROM SIXTEEN TO SIXTY. The militia of these free commonwealths, entitled and accustomed to their arms, when compared with any possible army, must be tremendous and irresistible. Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom? Congress has no power to disarm the militia. Their swords and every terrible implement of the soldier are the birthright of Americans. The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments but where, I trust in God, it will always remain, in the hands of the people." -- Tench Coxe

"It's the STAKES that matter. Not the odds." -- Lee Lapin, regarding "needing" a CCW

"Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson

"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock." -- Will Rogers

"Personal weapons are what raised mankind out of the mud, and the rifle is the queen of personal weapons. The possession of a good rifle, as well as the skill to use it well, truly makes a man the monarch of all he surveys." -- Jeff Cooper

“How a politician stands on the Second Amendment tells you how he or she views you as an individual... as a trustworthy and productive citizen, or as part of an unruly crowd that needs to be lorded over, controlled, supervised, and taken care of." -- Texas State Rep. Suzanna Gratia-Hupp

“The Second Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances where all other rights have failed -- where the government refuses to stand for reelection and silences those who protest; where courts have lost the courage to oppose, or can find no one to enforce their decrees. However improbable these contingencies may seem today, facing them unprepared is a mistake a free people get to make only once." -- Justice Alex Kozinski, US 9th Circuit Court, 2003

"If we could just get everyone to close their eyes and visualize world peace for an hour, imagine how serene and quiet it would be until the looting started..."

"The world consists largely of weak men made and kept free by better men than themselves." - John Stuart Mill, 1865

“One loves to possess arms, thought they hope they never have occasion for them" -- Thomas Jefferson to George Washington -1796

"It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly...who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who have never known neither victory nor defeat." -- Teddy Roosevelt

“He who asks is a fool for five minutes, but he who does not ask remains a fool forever." -- Chinese Proverb

“Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it, but downright force: whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined.... The great object is, that every man be armed.” -- Patrick Henry, Speech in the Virginia Convention, June 5, 1788

"Are you interested in preventing violence? Or just guns?" -- Unknown

"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it." --Jack Handy

"My grandmother's brain was dead, but her heart was still beating. It was the first time we ever had a Democrat in the family." -- Emo Phillips

"The problem with ‘post-modern’ society is there are too many people with nothing meaningful to do, building ‘careers’ around controlling the lives of others and generally making social nuisances of themselves. They justify their meddling by discovering social ‘problems’ and getting the media to magnify them out of all proportion." -- Graham Strachan

"Political correctness is just tyranny with manners." -- Charlton Heston

"Be not afraid of any man, no matter what his size. When trouble rises, call on me and I will equalize." -- Colt

"The quickest way to get it over with is to go get the bastards who started it. The quicker they are whipped, the quicker we can go home." – Gen. George Patton

"To my mind it is wholly irresponsible to go into the world incapable of preventing violence, injury, crime, and death. How feeble is the mindset to accept defenselessness. How unnatural. How cheap. How cowardly. How pathetic." -- Ted Nugent

"In order to ban guns, you must first ban knowledge of guns. In order to ban knowledge of guns, you must first ban knowledge itself." -- L. Neil Smith

"The philosophy of gun control: Teenagers are roaring through town at 90 MPH, where the speed limit is 25. Your solution is to lower the speed limit to 20." -- Sam Cohen

"An elected despotism is not the government we fought for." -- Thomas Jefferson

“When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property." -- Thomas Jefferson

"A knifeless man is a lifeless man” -- Viking Dictum

"Never part with your weapons when you are in the field. You never know when, on some lengthy plain, you may suddenly need your spear." -- Viking Dictum

“If you have always believed that everyone should play by the same rules and be judged by the same standards, that would have gotten you labeled a radical 60 years ago, a liberal 30 years ago and a racist today.” -- Thomas Sowell

"Free people must voluntarily through open debate and democratic means, meet the challenge that totalitarians pose by compulsion. It's up to us, in our time, to choose and choose wisely between the hard but necessary task of preserving peace and freedom and the temptation to ignore our duty and blindly hope for the best while the enemies of freedom grow stronger day by day." -- Ronald Reagan (1983)

"Well, increasingly I can't help but think that the liberals of Europe and the Leftists of America (there's still hope for our liberals) have lost the energy and the conviction to defend themselves. They cannot grasp that our enemies -- especially those hailing from the Third World -- cannot be reasoned with. It doesn't matter if we wronged them in the past. It doesn't matter if their historical grievances have weight. What matters, as a matter of pure survival and morality, is what they believe today and what they do because of those beliefs." --Jonah Goldberg

"Liberals still believe they can create the ultimate society, without realizing that they had it and screwed it up." -- Unknown

"A good plan, violently executed now, is better than a perfect plan next week." -- George S. Patton, General (1885-1945)

“Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something.” -- Plato (429-347 BC)

"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you darn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -- P.J. O'Rourke (1993)

"We contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle." -- Winston Churchill-

"The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery." -- Winston Churchill-

"Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it." -- Ronald Reagan (1986)

"If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free." -- P.J. O'Rourke

"Just because you do not take an interest in politics doesn't mean politics won't take an interest in you." --Pericles (430 B.C.)

"A liberal is someone who feels a great debt to his fellow man, which he proposes to pay off with your money." -- G. Gordon Liddy

"Washington didn't use his right to free speech to defeat the British, he shot them." -- Unknown

“Suppose they gave a war, and nobody came? Why then, the war would come to you!” -- Bertol Brecht.

“Yes, makin' mock o' uniforms that guard you while you sleep
Is cheaper than them uniforms, an' they're starvation cheap.
An' hustlin' drunken soldiers when they're goin' large a bit
Is five times better business than paradin' in full kit.
Then it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an` Tommy, 'ow's yer soul? "
But it's " Thin red line of 'eroes " when the drums begin to roll.” -- Kipling

"Then you will see the rise of men of the double standard -- the men who live by force, yet count on those who live by trade to create the value of their looted money -- the men who are the hitchhikers of virtue. In a moral society, these are the criminals, and the statutes are written to protect you against them. But when a society establishes criminals-by-right and looters-by-law -- men who use force to seize the wealth of disarmed victims -- then money becomes its creators' avenger. Such looters believe it safe to rob defenseless men, once they've passed a law to disarm them." -- Ayn Rand

"Rain falls on the just and the unjust, but really the rain falls mostly on the just because the unjust have stolen all the umbrellas." -- Unknown

“GOLD is for the mistress - silver for the maid" -
Copper for the craftsman cunning at his trade! "
" Good! " said the Baron, sitting in his hall,
But Iron - Cold Iron - is master of them all." -- Kipling

"...From time to time, we have been tempted to believe that society has become too complex to be managed by self-rule, that government by an elite group is superior to government for, by, and of the people. But if no one among us is capable of governing himself, then who among us has the capacity to govern someone else? ...If we look to the answer as to why, for so many years, we achieved so much, prospered as no other people on Earth, it was because here, in this land, we unleashed the energy and individual genius of man to a greater extent than has ever been done before. Freedom and the dignity of the individual have been more available and assured here than in any other place on Earth..." -- Ronald Reagan, 1981 Inaugural Address

“The right of citizens to bear arms is just one guarantee against arbitrary government, one more safeguard against the tyranny which now appears remote in America, but which historically has proven to always be possible." -- Senator Hubert Humphrey, 1960

"We can't be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans." -- Bill Clinton (USA Today, 3/11/93 PG. 2-A)

"When the world is at peace, a Samauri keeps his sword at his side." -- Japanese Proverb

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin

"I don't mind it when stupid people say stupid things. Stupid people should be encouraged to say stupid things, that way we always know who the stupid people are." -- Ted Nugent, Fox News, 2002.

"In my continuing, but not successful, effort to preserve semantic purity, I suggest that the Arab attack on the World Trade Center was an atrocity, rather than a tragedy. Rhodesia is a tragedy." -- Jeff Cooper

"Once you've taken a public stand you know is right, never back down; anything less than a rock-hard stance will allow your enemies to nibble you to death." -- L. Neil Smith

"The unarmed man is not just defenseless - he is also contemptible." -- Machiavelli

"I'm all in favor of keeping dangerous weapons out of the hands of fools. Let's start with typewriters." --Solomon Short

"A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun, therefore, be the constant companion of your walks." -- Thomas Jefferson to Peter Carr, 1785

"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake." -- Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)

"Opportunity is missed by most people because it comes dressed in overalls & looks like work" -- Thomas Edison

"One bleeding-heart type asked me in a recent interview if I did not agree that 'violence begets violence.' I told him that it is my earnest endeavor to see that it does. I would like very much to ensure — and in some cases I have — that any man who offers violence to his fellow citizen begets a whole lot more in return than he can enjoy." -- Jeff Cooper, "Cooper vs. Terrorism", Guns & Ammo Annual, 1975

"God made us in his own image. Thomas Jefferson made us free. John Browning made us equal.
Without Browning, we might not know about the other two..."

"We sleep safely in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence upon those who would do us harm." -- George Orwell

"To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them." -- The Federal Farmer, 1788

"Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen, and then say, 'What should be the reward of such sacrifices?' Bid us and our posterity bow the knee, supplicate the friendship, and plough, and sow, and reap, to glut the avarice of the men who have let loose on us the dogs of war to riot in our blood and hunt us from the face of the earth? If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animating contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen!" -- Samuel Adams

"The United States will eventually fly the Communist Red Flag...the American people will hoist it themselves." -- Nikita Khrushchev, predicting confidently in a speech in Bucharest, Rumania on June 19, 1962

"When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty." -- Thomas Jefferson

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves." -- William Pitt (1783)

“[It] isn't so much that Liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so much that isn't so”. -- Ronald Wilson Reagan (1964)

"You don't make the poor richer by making the rich poorer." -- Winston Churchill

"Blessed be the Lord, my rock, who trains my hands for battle, my fingers for war." -- Psalms 144

"Let's roll..." -- T. Beamer, American Hero

“I wouldn't hurt thee for the world, but thou art standing where I intend to shoot.” -- Quaker warning

“If you don't understand weapons you don't understand fighting. If you don't understand fighting you don't understand war. If you don't understand war you don't understand history. And if you don't understand history you might as well live with your head in a sack”. -- Colonel Jeff Cooper

"If you carry a gun, people will call you paranoid. That’s ridiculous. If I have a gun, what in the hell do I have to be paranoid about?" -- Clint Smith, Director of Thunder Ranch

“Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges. (The more corrupt the state is, the more numerous are the laws.)” -- Tacitus, Annales

"I'd like to see the Ann Frank diary read like this: 'The Gestapo found our hiding place yesterday. Father met them on the stairway with his Mauser. After all the noise we had to leave. Switzerland is very nice. I'm looking forward to starting my new school.' " -- Unknown

"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." -- Robert Heinlein

"Well, we know what motivates the hoplophobe. He simply envies the man who can cope where he, the hoplophobe, cannot. A skilled, armed man lives on a plane of security and contentment different from that of others. This is not egalitarian! The man who cannot cut it, envies, fears, and sometimes hates the man who can." -- Jeff Cooper

"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." -- John Stewart Mill

"There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power government has is the power to crack down on criminals. When there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. " -- Ayn Rand

"An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." -- Jeff Cooper

"An armed society is a polite society." -- Heinlein

"Molon Labe"-- Leonidas to Xerxes at Themopylae

"... carry a 25 if it makes you feel good, but do not ever load it. If you load it you may shoot it. If you shoot it you may hit somebody, and if you hit somebody - and he finds out about it - he may be very angry with you." -- Jeff Cooper

“Whoever said "the pen is mightier than the sword" obviously never encountered automatic weapons.” -- General Douglas MacArthur

“If you love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home and leave us in peace. We seek not your council, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.” -- Samuel Adams

“Among the natural rights of the colonists are these: first, a right to life; second, to liberty; third, to property; together with the right to support and defend them in the best manner they can. These are the evident branches of the duty of self-preservation, commonly called the first law of nature. All men have a right to remain in a state of nature as long as they please; and in case of intolerable oppression, civil or religious, to leave the society they belong to, and enter into another.” -- Samuel Adams

"The Union agrees with the Supreme Court's longstanding interpretation of the Second Amendment that the individual's right to keep and bear arms applies only to the preservation or efficiency of a 'well-regulated militia'. Except for lawful police and military purposes, the possession of weapons by individuals is not constitutionally protected." -- ACLU policy statement #47 (1986)

"A Liberal is just a Conservative who hasn't been mugged yet.” -- Unknown

"The sword dose not cause the murder, and the maker of the sword dose not bear sin" -- Rabbi Solomon ben Isaac, 11th century

"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity" -- Sigmund Freud.

“Today, we need a nation of Minutemen, citizens who are not only prepared to take arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as the basic purpose of their daily life and who are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom.” -- John F. Kennedy

“A conservative is a socialist who worships order. A liberal is a socialist who worships safety.” -- Unknown

“Banning guns addresses a fundamental right of all Americans to feel safe.” -- Dianne Feinstein to the Associated Press in 1993

"The criminal element should consider the possibility of being shot as an occupational hazard." -- Charleston, SC Chief of Police Ruben Greenberg, after a home/business owner took out an armed robber

"False is the idea of utility that sacrifices a thousand real advantages for one imaginary or trifling inconvenience; that would take fire from men because it burns, and water because one may drown in it; that has no remedy for evils, except destruction. The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Can it be supposed that those who have the courage to violate the most sacred laws of humanity, the most important of the code, will respect the less important and arbitrary ones, which can be violated with ease and impunity, and which, if strictly obeyed, would put an end to personal liberty — so dear to men, so dear to the enlightened legislator — and subject innocent persons to all the vexations that the guilty alone ought to suffer? Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." -- from Cesare Beccaria from On Crimes and Punishments

"A militia when properly formed is in fact the people themselves . . . and include all men capable of bearing arms. . . To preserve liberty it is essential that the whole body of people always possess arms... The mind that aims at a select militia must be influenced by a truly anti-republican principle." -- Richard Henry Lee, of Virginia, Additional Letters from the Federal Farmer, 1788

"The role of government is to protect citizens from each other. When it starts to protect citizens from themselves, it has overstepped its bounds." -- Ronald Reagan

“Without our Second Amendment rights, all of our other rights aren't inalienable, they're just "on loan" from the government”. –- Mike Huckabee

"Americans have the will to resist because you have weapons. If you don't have a gun, freedom of speech has no power." -- Yoshimi Ishikawa

"The world is filled with violence. Because criminals carry guns, we decent law-abiding citizens should also have guns. Otherwise they will win and the decent people will lose." -- James Earl Jones

"Banning gun shows to reduce violent crime will work about as well as banning auto shows to reduce drunken driving." -- Bill McIntire

“The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles.” -- Jeff Cooper, The Art of the Rifle

"Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest." -- Mahatma Gandhi, from his autobiography

"We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." -- Hillary Rodham Clinton, 6/28/04

"Only accurate rifles are interesting" -- Townsend Whelen

"You know why there's a Second Amendment? In case the government fails to follow the first one." -- Rush Limbaugh

“All political power flows from the barrel of a gun, and that gun must remain firmly in the hand of the state.” -- Mao Tse-Tung

[alnitak]

Haycock -- From guncite.com, the George Washington quote is bogus:

The "Liberty Teeth" Speech by George Washington

Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence. The church, the plow, the prairie wagon, and citizen's firearms are indelibly related. From the hour the Pilgrims landed, to the present day, events, occurrences, and tendencies prove that to insure peace, security and happiness, the rifle and the pistol are equally indispensable. Every corner of this land knows firearms, and more than 99 99/100 percent of them by their silence indicate they are in safe and sane hands. The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference; they deserve a place with all that's good. When firearms, go all goes; we need them every hour.
-- Falsely attributed to George Washington, address to the second session of the first U.S. Congress.

This quotation, sometimes called the "liberty teeth" quote, appears nowhere in Washington's papers or speeches, and contains several historical anachronisms: the reference to "prairie wagon" in an America which had yet to even begin settling the Great Plains (which were owned by France at the time), the reference to "the Pilgrims" which implies a modern historical perspective, and particularly the attempt by "Washington" to defend the utility of firearms (by use of statistics!) to an audience which would have used firearms in their daily lives to obtain food, defend against hostile Indians, and which had only recently won a war for independence.

The "99 99/100 percent" is also an odd phrase for 18th century America, which tended not to use fractional percentages. It's clear that "Washington" is addressing "gun control" arguments which wouldn't exist for another couple of centuries, not to mention doing so in a style that is uncharacteristic of the period, and uncharacteristic of Washington's addresses to Congress, both of which exhibited a high degree of formality.

This is a false quote, but bits and pieces of it still continue to crop up from time to time. Even national publications, such as Playboy magazine, have been snared by it. (Playboy published the "quote" in December 1995 as part of an article entitled "Once and for All: What the Founding Fathers Said About Guns". After consulting with an assistant editor of the George Washington Papers at the University of Virginia, Playboy published a lengthy correction in March 1996.)

The above analysis (by Clayon Cramer) was taken in part from a "talk.politics.guns" usenet FAQ. (Original source: Cramer, Clayton, Firing Back, 1995. Used by permission of the author.)

The Second Amendment Foundation (SAF) also comments (excerpted with permission) on the liberty teeth speech as follows: "This has several variations including 'hour' for 'moment' and sometimes added as part of an actual Washington quote 'A free people ought not only to be armed...' The various citations are even more numerous than different wordings: Address to the Second Session of the First U.S. Congress; Speech to Congress of January 7, 1790, printed in the Boston Independent Chronicle, January 14, 1790; the Federalist No. 53; Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 1785."

[ole pizen slinger]

Alnitak,
Thanks for posting all those quotes. I think I'm going to start sending them, one a day, to all the anti gun legislators via email. May not change things but maybe it will provide a little harrassment. By the way, with that handle, are you involved in astrophotography by any chance?
Ole Pizen Slinger

[Haycock]

Alnitak - Thanks for both the clarification of on the GW quote and the great set of additional RKBA quotes. I will edit them into the doc I am building and post it once its done.

Haycock

[flatnose]

In recent times the most important quote may be from George Bush, with regards to the constitution. Quote,
" Its just a god dam piece of paper"
Yep, he's prooved that more than once.

[alnitak]

Alnitak,By the way, with that handle, are you involved in astrophotography by any chance?
Ole Pizen Slinger

OPS -- Astronomy is a hobby of mine, and I have done some astrophography. Probably the best shots have been of the comet Hale-Bopp, the Leonid meteor shower and the moon. I have done some longer exposures of fuzzies, but living near the city, the light pollution is too bad for stellar (pun intended) results.

[ole pizen slinger]

Alnitak,
I kinda thought so. I'm fond of Astronomy as well. I have a good bit of astrophotography gear but I don't get to use it as much as I'd like. The summers are very hazy in the mountains of Western North Carolina so they are off limits this time of year. I do enjoy the Fall, Winter and Spring. I try to do my work on the Blue Ridge Parkway at an elevation of 5500 ft. Just wish there were more good nights and less light polution.
Ole Pizen Slinger

[alnitak]

OPS -- would love to talk gear with you, and the Blue Ridge Parkway is gorgeous! Of course, nowadays, astrophography can be done at home from your computer...not like the old days of 45 minute exposures during the dead of winter, guiding by hand, etc. Do you take pictures anymore?

Send me a PM, and we can chat.
Bruce