Am I right in saying.....

[Rifleman336]

I was on another board and someone brought up a question on the .35 Remington. Am I right in saying that their no way to make it an Auckley Improved because its too close pressure wise to the casings limit or the rifles?


Rifleman 336

[bogus bill]

Wasnt that cartridge used a lot in those early auto remington and winchesters? Probley due to those actions no one wanted to mess with the work involved with getting them to work. I always was tempted years ago to take a winchester model 07? in 351 and see if it couldnt be converted to .357 mag. Years ago there was a lot around cheap from prisons etc, now they seem hard to find.

[Buffboy]

When I look at the 35rem there's really not a lot of case shoulder or taper to blow out to get an "improved" version. Even if you took some neck out of it, (IMO not wise, considering the thinness of the brass and not much neck to begin with) I doubt you could get more than a grain of additional powder space even with a radical improvement so yes, I think you're right.

[crawdaddyjim]

It comes from the factory Ackley improved. If you want more powder in .35 cal. then go to the .35 Whelen.

[TedH]

Or 356 Winchester.

[KCSO]

The 35 Remington was designed for the Browning automatic rifle around 1900. It was designed with a fairly sharp shoulder (for the time) and a short neck. There just isn't muuch there to improve. The cartridge was chambered in the Remingtom Model 8 and later the 81 and still later in the Marlin 336. Since all of thses guns had a pressure limit of about 40,000 pounds I don't know of anyone who has attempted to hot rod this one. The closest I have seen was Waters loading a Winchester Model 70 and even then he did not go over 100 fps faster than the original M 8 loads. One of the nicest things about the old 35 Remington is that cast bullets work just a good as jacketed and can be pushed just as fast. Inside 100 yards i can't think of a better deer gun and the ballistics puts it a litttle ahead of my favorite 38-55 loads. This is one where you don't mess with sucess.

[O.S.O.K.]

Or 356 Winchester.

+1

The .356 Winchester is an improved 35 Remington.

Brass is designed for higher pressure and the larger case volume allows for easily getting the velocity boost that you're looking for.

I'm having a 336RC 35 Rem rechambered for the .356 Win myself - this entails the chamber reaming and the face of the bolt being ground to accept the larger diameter case head - or you can just get a 30-30 bolt.

http://www.leveractions.com is doing the work for me.

[Hobie]

I was on another board and someone brought up a question on the .35 Remington. Am I right in saying that their no way to make it an Auckley Improved because its too close pressure wise to the casings limit or the rifles?


Rifleman 336

You'd be right if you said you couldn't blow it out or "improve" it to any appreciable degree and thus there's no value in the exercise.

[pharmseller]

There's another board?

Quinn