Been an "interesting" month with the shingles

[earlmck]

A few weeks ago I spent a day cutting firewood and that evening thought I'd been bit by insects -- bunch of itchy bumps all over the right side of my head. And they kept getting worse and more of them over the next days and pretty soon I looked like somebody had worked me over with a 2X4. And no longer looked like insect bites either, and the whole right side of my head hurt and shot pains clear down into where my tonsils would be if the doc hadn't scooped them out 75 years ago...

A friend who has a brother who gets shingles frequently took one look at me and said "you've got shingles!". And sure enough, a little looking on the internet confirmed. Which was some relief by then, 'cause I was beginning to wonder if it was a "turbo" skin cancer. So the reading I did suggested that you just hung in there a couple weeks and they'd scab over and start clearing up. And sure enough, the early ones scabbed over but more kept popping out until I was thinking I was going to get eaten alive by these shingles.

Now a few months ago Doctor Pierre Kory (of Covid cancelling and FLCCC fame) started writing about "chlorine dioxide" which I'd never heard of previously. Seems to be another of those substances that is cheap but heals a bunch of different things that Big Pharma makes big money of of with expensive drugs and they have buried knowledge of chlorine dioxide similar to what they did with DMSO. Anyway, one of the things chlorine dioxide helps heal is shingles, so I got me some off Amazon and have been using it for a week now. Shingles aren't quite all gone, but almost. And the pain began reducing after the first couple days and is no longer causing so much misery.

This chlorine dioxide is somewhat of a pain to take -- you mix three drops of "A" with three drips of "B" and then add some distilled water and drink it down -- eight times per day! It doesn't taste bad but it doesn't taste good either. And I'm purt tired of drinking the stuff but sure gonna' stick with it until all the trace of shingles is gone (the one inside my ear is taking it's sweet time about going away).

Meanwhile I stayed out of the public eye and away from people and got a bunch of bullets lubed and rounds loaded and am surely looking forward the our buffalo shoot coming up next week end. I went over to the "dark side" and got one of those Swedish Mausers for our military bolt shoot and it seems awful sweet. Always good to have something new to play with, even if this one just has that little side lever...

But on the "health" note -- if you are like me and the medical community surrounding you has lost all your trust and you realize you are pretty much on your own... well it might be worth laying in some of this chlorine dioxide stuff. Here's a video on it: https://rumble.com/v1upids-quantum-leap ... oxide.html In the video they keep calling it "mms" but that is just the two-part stuff to make chlorine dioxide.

[JimT]

Interesting.
Wish I had found this earlier. I have 2 friends who almost died from shingles and have on-going issues because of it.

[Rockrat]

I had shingles years ago. One thing I came up with was taking some hydrocortisone cream, about marble size amount, and mixing it with a generic baby oragel cream, a glob about green pea sized and mixing together, like epoxy. spread over the affected area. Will help numb the area and seems to help heal it. Put it on 2x-3x a day.

[jeepnik]

Well, this might cause some flak, but I believe in vaccines. I had the shingles shot. From the misery I've seen folks have I'm glad I did.
To tell the truth, I have no sympathy for parents who refuse to vaccinate their kids and then the kids get things like measles, rubella, mumps and chicken pox. All of these like shingles can have life long side effects.

I have an anti-vacer nephew who didn't get his kid vaccinated for tetanus. Yep, kid almost died.

[Pat C]

Well, this might cause some flak, but I believe in vaccines. I had the shingles shot. From the misery I've seen folks have I'm glad I did.
To tell the truth, I have no sympathy for parents who refuse to vaccinate their kids and then the kids get things like measles, rubella, mumps and chicken pox. All of these like shingles can have life long side effects.

I have an anti-vacer nephew who didn't get his kid vaccinated for tetanus. Yep, kid almost died.

I got it last year , two part . No reason not too.

[Bill in Oregon]

Earl! I was just worrying about you this morning. Glad to see you posting but horribly sorry you've been battling shingles. I had the old shot, and one of the newer Shingrix vaccines, but haven't had no. 2. I should. Dad had a case across his abdomen about 1993 or 4. Then, as he lay suffering with H1N1 and pneumonia in 2012, that wretched herpes zoster saw a chance and he died with shingles in his mouth. I wouldn't wish it on anyone. Hope you are all healed for your shoot at the good old COSSA range. And yes, those Swedes really are something.

[AJMD429]

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One thing to keep in mind is that if you get shingles it means your immune system 'dropped its guard' momentarily - sometimes due to another (hopefully mild) illness, or a week of overtime, marital stress, or minor surgery. However sometimes the other issue distracting the immune system is more serious - diabetes onset, a cancer messing with you somewhere, or whatever. So a good time to get a thorough checkup (if you can find a doc that does those anymore).

If shingles (or cold sores, or candida, or other opportunistic minor thing) happens SEVERAL times in a given year, be even more vigilant.

As to the vaccines - the older one (Zostrix) seemed reasonably effective, but the newer one seems to cause more minor side effects (muscle aches for over a month) and sometimes more severe (Guillian Barre) side effects than the newer two-part one (Shingrix). I think the only way the newer one could claim 'superiority' was to give a second dose, but I'd rather just do the Zostrix one time, or if really necessary, repeat it as with the Shingrix.

The actual infection seems to confer far greater immunity than either vaccine, which is the norm for infections most of the time - so getting either vaccine AFTER a shingles infection is probably rather worthless - either don't bother at all, or at least wait a year until the vaccine won't just be immediately bound up and not really do much immune stimulation.

As to "vaccines in general" I think the spectrum of vaccine types is FAR to varied to generalize, other than there is some sentiment that stimulating the humoral part of the immune system without stimulating the cellular part may be foolish, although that would probably depend on the specific germ one is trying to immunize against.

Some vaccines have been withdrawn from the market due to the risk exceeding the benefit - so anyone claiming "all vaccines are safe and effective" is just ignoring reality. Likewise, there are certainly cases where vaccines can and have saved lives, so the true "anti-vaxxer" who says "all vaccines are dangerous and ineffective" are probably just as crazy.

However, there IS a line somewhere, between 'bad' vaccines and 'good' vaccines, and given the heterogenous nature of the human population, and our various risks and comorbidities, it seems REASONABLE to conclude that some vaccines are good for some people in some situations, and not in others. I'm not sure how anyone logical and informed could dispute that.

The current problem is the string of LIES that have been exposed, and the insane 'recommendations' sometimes issued with no justification, have caused anyone who stops to think to wonder just what we can believe. We've certainly seen the vaccine companies caught in data fabrication and lies, and we've certainly seen the medical journals (even the 'mainstream' ones) capitulate to their advertizers and bury stories of pertinence, and we've clearly seen politics trump science time and time again.

One classic instance is the still-current recommendation to give Hepatitis B vaccination to 24 hour old infants. The disease is caught by intravenous drug use, unprotected sex, and illicit tattoos in nearly ALL cases - with 1/10,000 transfusions slipping up and transmitting the virus. Immunity from the vaccine is thought to last 10-20 years. The majority of transfusions in children are NOT surprises, but rather due to hemophelia or leukemia, so plenty of time exists to immunize those kids; even including the non-surprise ones, only about one in ten thousand kids gets a transfusion prior to age ten. So....do the math - a kid prior to age ten has a 1 in 100 MILLION chance of getting hep B via transfusion, and if a kid under 10 is using IV drugs or having sex and tattoos, you have a far greater set of problems than hep B on your hands. The chances of ANY medication causing a dangerous side effect is far more than one in a hundred million, so for the child, unless you know they are truly going home to a needles-on-the-floor home where mom's a prostitute, you are indeed far more likely to cause HARM to that child from that vaccine than you are to protect them. Kids do indeed to wild things in their teens, and they usually get it out of their system by age 25-30, so would it not make far more sense to give that vaccine around age TEN, when it may be needed, and may actually not wear off during the very time they need it...??? But to deviate from the 'vaccine schedule' and give Hep B vac at age 10 instead of to a newborn gets a physician kicked off the staff and labeled an 'anti-vaxxer', plus you don't get your financial bonus if you drop below the required vaccine percentages.

If that seems a bid odd that you can't even bring it up for discussion without being attacked (I thought science was something we continually learned with - not something a politician or bureaucrat chisled in stone for us to follow), then you should read the vaccine-industry expose titled 'Turtles all the way Down', and check out the 250 or so references within the book that do indeed validate and verify the claims as they expose many such inconsistencies and outright fabrications coming from the vaccine industry. After that, read 'The Moth in the Iron Lung' and it will shatter - or at least question - even more illusions.

It is not all that difficult to fool people, especially if they are afraid, and many infectious diseases are frightening.
It is even easier to fool people if you are wearing a white coat and stethoscope, and use lots of big words.
Cap that off with some supporting journal articles from The New England Journal of Medicine, and you can be quite convincing.
But what is nearly impossible, is to take individuals who you clearly HAVE fooled, and get them to admit they were indeed fooled.

That phenomenon is what we are seeing now with Covid, big time.

The irony is that it is all the ones who were willing to lie and distort and use fear-mongering to force people to get vaccinated against covid, who have created an environment where people who used to trust the 'medical establishment' are now starting to question it. I used to give far more vaccines (and endorse them as 'safe and effective') than I do now, because once people DO realize they've been lied to, they become skeptics. Maybe not completely 'anti-vax', but at least now they are wanting to explore the actual pros and cons.

It is fascinating to see the 'anti-statin' movement (statins do have issues if misused, but if used correctly in the patients who actually NEED them, are livesaving) and contrast it with the 'anti-vaccine' movement. Why it is that one kind of drug is ok to question and a different kind is forbidden to question, makes no sense. Especially when the vaccines are designed intentionally to cause PERMANENT change in the body - you'd think that the public would be MORE wanting to explore and quantitate risk versus benefit for vaccines than for most oral medications, which tend to only exert their effect while you take them, often completely reversing once stopped.

I think our modern 'educated' and 'civilized' society is in many ways no less superstitious and irrational than the most 'primitive' tribe - smoke and mirrors are still plenty able to sway us, and emotions rule over facts most of the time.

[Grizz]

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One thing to keep in mind is that if you get shingles it means your immune system 'dropped its guard' momentarily - sometimes due to another (hopefully mild) illness, or a week of overtime, marital stress, or minor surgery. However sometimes the other issue distracting the immune system is more serious - diabetes onset, a cancer messing with you somewhere, or whatever. So a good time to get a thorough checkup (if you can find a doc that does those anymore).

If shingles (or cold sores, or candida, or other opportunistic minor thing) happens SEVERAL times in a given year, be even more vigilant.

As to the vaccines - the older one (Zostrix) seemed reasonably effective, but the newer one seems to cause more minor side effects (muscle aches for over a month) and sometimes more severe (Guillian Barre) side effects than the newer two-part one (Shingrix). I think the only way the newer one could claim 'superiority' was to give a second dose, but I'd rather just do the Zostrix one time, or if really necessary, repeat it as with the Shingrix.

The actual infection seems to confer far greater immunity than either vaccine, which is the norm for infections most of the time - so getting either vaccine AFTER a shingles infection is probably rather worthless - either don't bother at all, or at least wait a year until the vaccine won't just be immediately bound up and not really do much immune stimulation.

As to "vaccines in general" I think the spectrum of vaccine types is FAR to varied to generalize, other than there is some sentiment that stimulating the humoral part of the immune system without stimulating the cellular part may be foolish, although that would probably depend on the specific germ one is trying to immunize against.

Some vaccines have been withdrawn from the market due to the risk exceeding the benefit - so anyone claiming "all vaccines are safe and effective" is just ignoring reality. Likewise, there are certainly cases where vaccines can and have saved lives, so the true "anti-vaxxer" who says "all vaccines are dangerous and ineffective" are probably just as crazy.

However, there IS a line somewhere, between 'bad' vaccines and 'good' vaccines, and given the heterogenous nature of the human population, and our various risks and comorbidities, it seems REASONABLE to conclude that some vaccines are good for some people in some situations, and not in others. I'm not sure how anyone logical and informed could dispute that.

The current problem is the string of LIES that have been exposed, and the insane 'recommendations' sometimes issued with no justification, have caused anyone who stops to think to wonder just what we can believe. We've certainly seen the vaccine companies caught in data fabrication and lies, and we've certainly seen the medical journals (even the 'mainstream' ones) capitulate to their advertizers and bury stories of pertinence, and we've clearly seen politics trump science time and time again.

One classic instance is the still-current recommendation to give Hepatitis B vaccination to 24 hour old infants. The disease is caught by intravenous drug use, unprotected sex, and illicit tattoos in nearly ALL cases - with 1/10,000 transfusions slipping up and transmitting the virus. Immunity from the vaccine is thought to last 10-20 years. The majority of transfusions in children are NOT surprises, but rather due to hemophelia or leukemia, so plenty of time exists to immunize those kids; even including the non-surprise ones, only about one in ten thousand kids gets a transfusion prior to age ten. So....do the math - a kid prior to age ten has a 1 in 100 MILLION chance of getting hep B via transfusion, and if a kid under 10 is using IV drugs or having sex and tattoos, you have a far greater set of problems than hep B on your hands. The chances of ANY medication causing a dangerous side effect is far more than one in a hundred million, so for the child, unless you know they are truly going home to a needles-on-the-floor home where mom's a prostitute, you are indeed far more likely to cause HARM to that child from that vaccine than you are to protect them. Kids do indeed to wild things in their teens, and they usually get it out of their system by age 25-30, so would it not make far more sense to give that vaccine around age TEN, when it may be needed, and may actually not wear off during the very time they need it...??? But to deviate from the 'vaccine schedule' and give Hep B vac at age 10 instead of to a newborn gets a physician kicked off the staff and labeled an 'anti-vaxxer', plus you don't get your financial bonus if you drop below the required vaccine percentages.

If that seems a bid odd that you can't even bring it up for discussion without being attacked (I thought science was something we continually learned with - not something a politician or bureaucrat chisled in stone for us to follow), then you should read the vaccine-industry expose titled 'Turtles all the way Down', and check out the 250 or so references within the book that do indeed validate and verify the claims as they expose many such inconsistencies and outright fabrications coming from the vaccine industry. After that, read 'The Moth in the Iron Lung' and it will shatter - or at least question - even more illusions.

It is not all that difficult to fool people, especially if they are afraid, and many infectious diseases are frightening.
It is even easier to fool people if you are wearing a white coat and stethoscope, and use lots of big words.
Cap that off with some supporting journal articles from The New England Journal of Medicine, and you can be quite convincing.
But what is nearly impossible, is to take individuals who you clearly HAVE fooled, and get them to admit they were indeed fooled.

That phenomenon is what we are seeing now with Covid, big time.

The irony is that it is all the ones who were willing to lie and distort and use fear-mongering to force people to get vaccinated against covid, who have created an environment where people who used to trust the 'medical establishment' are now starting to question it. I used to give far more vaccines (and endorse them as 'safe and effective') than I do now, because once people DO realize they've been lied to, they become skeptics. Maybe not completely 'anti-vax', but at least now they are wanting to explore the actual pros and cons.

It is fascinating to see the 'anti-statin' movement (statins do have issues if misused, but if used correctly in the patients who actually NEED them, are livesaving) and contrast it with the 'anti-vaccine' movement. Why it is that one kind of drug is ok to question and a different kind is forbidden to question, makes no sense. Especially when the vaccines are designed intentionally to cause PERMANENT change in the body - you'd think that the public would be MORE wanting to explore and quantitate risk versus benefit for vaccines than for most oral medications, which tend to only exert their effect while you take them, often completely reversing once stopped.

I think our modern 'educated' and 'civilized' society is in many ways no less superstitious and irrational than the most 'primitive' tribe - smoke and mirrors are still plenty able to sway us, and emotions rule over facts most of the time.

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thanks Doc. the vaccine thing has become the favorite method of the marxists next to riots and murder, to get rid of people. the mrna and its ilk are designed to permanently mess up our DNA, which is the computer code by which LORD makes our bodies work. messing with that is directly messing with GOD. I THINK I put NO to vaccines on the green card.

millions of people were killed by the darned covid "shot", and the newer "progressive" improvements appear to be worse.. i would rather drop dead today than take any kind of injection from any source. i don't trust in or believe ANYBODY in that crowd any more. Present company excepted. The entire crew, including all the print and tv liars, and all the pushers, are simple cold blooded killers, the abortionists of the ones they missed in the womb. not that i plan to go off on a screaming tirade about them, because truth only applies to God's chosen ones, the God-Haters cannot, CAN NOT hear this because the God-hater-death-cult are completely totally deceived, believing their own lies. They have innoculated themselves against TRUTH, and nothing they do or say should surprise anyone.

attempting to speak to any of them about anything outside of their death-wish-cult is like talking to a dead tree, chopped up and stacked in ricks for winter. they have no human love left, and human wisdom is "foolishness to God".

AND AND AND they, we all have a face-to-face with Christ, Very God Himself. it' coming. they be like hiding in caves, knowing it is coming, and shrieking in front of tv cameras.

etc.,
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[earlmck]

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One thing to keep in mind is that if you get shingles it means your immune system 'dropped its guard' momentarily - sometimes due to another (hopefully mild) illness, or a week of overtime, marital stress, or minor surgery. However sometimes the other issue distracting the immune system is more serious - diabetes onset, a cancer messing with you somewhere, or whatever. So a good time to get a thorough checkup (if you can find a doc that does those anymore).

If shingles (or cold sores, or candida, or other opportunistic minor thing) happens SEVERAL times in a given year, be even more vigilant.

As to the vaccines - the older one (Zostrix) seemed reasonably effective, but the newer one seems to cause more minor side effects (muscle aches for over a month) and sometimes more severe (Guillian Barre) side effects than the newer two-part one (Shingrix). I think the only way the newer one could claim 'superiority' was to give a second dose, but I'd rather just do the Zostrix one time, or if really necessary, repeat it as with the Shingrix.

The actual infection seems to confer far greater immunity than either vaccine, which is the norm for infections most of the time - so getting either vaccine AFTER a shingles infection is probably rather worthless - either don't bother at all, or at least wait a year until the vaccine won't just be immediately bound up and not really do much immune stimulation.

Thanks Doc -- I was wondering where my danged ole immune system was hiding that it would let me get these shingles. Got the vit D levels up around the 90 level and was counting on that to keep me good. Also had got the old style vaccine a few years ago before finding out what a nasty bunch of liars run these American drug cartels and swore off any vaccines ever again....

I fight to get 4 or 5 hours of sleep a night and worry that is the headwind causing my immune troubles.

Anyway, I think the chloring dioxide is gonna' get me cleared up. Looking and feeling much better since starting on it. And since the stuff cures malaria in 2 days flat and gets most cancers within the 21 days I should soon be good for the duration

[AJMD429]

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It does seem the chlorine-dioxide and other things the FLCCC group publishes are helpful. There are others publishing much of the same so it isn't just a blip, but something numerous people are coming across.

Once you can explain a MECHANISM why an unexpected thing works, the use of it becomes much more sensible to try, and we are seeing the PHARMACOLOGIC literature publish these things (ironically that literature is NOT sponsored - and thus censored - by Big Pharma, but more by centerfuge or chromatography equipment sellers - it is the MEDICAL literature that forms the barrier to public/'mainstream' news publication - NEJM, JAMA, BJM and Lancet are all pretty much captured by Big Pharma).

Fascinating times in the medical world, as well as the political one, for sure.

The number of 'biomarkers' of health are seemingly infinite, and many are difficult to measure meaningfully (even just getting an iodine or magnesium level is not necessarily an easy thing to do in any practical and accurate manner). Still, looking at homocysteine (methylation indicator) or the MTHFR gene (but the COMT is probably even more important, just WAY harder to interpret), the insulin level (on hormones you must NOT just use the 'reference range' though - the concept of 'reference range' is a whole other topic, but especially is irrelevant to hormones, as they are signaling elements by definition, so constantly change - you have to look at timing and context, plus account for protein binding, and the fact that they exist in so many forms), thyroid levels (especially that the RT3 isn't sky-high vs the free T3), and the sex hormones can at least be marginally accurate in males (free T not total T, and at least check the DHT on occasion) - in women there are about 12 kinds of estrogen, all highly protein bound and constantly interconverting, so it is a minefield to go there. Finally an assessment of the cortisol/one levels is helpful, but the only test I have found helpful is the one by precision analytical called the 'DUTCH Plus' test - it also measures the sex hormones, which as we've found out have WAY more effects than just the bedroom things (maintaining them after age 50 on average adds 3 or 4 years of life expectancy, reduces dementia, reduces fall/fracture risk, reduces stroke and heart attack, improves diabetes, and for men reduces prostate cancer death rates as well as slightly reducing testicular cancer. In women, proper hormone replacement REDUCES breast cancer death risk, as well as slightly the ovarian and a huge reduction in endometrial cancer risk). On males, beware that the PSA is falsely SUPPRESSED if the testosterone level is too low (anything much below half of the upper limit of the 'reference range' - ignore the lower limit on the report) - so guys who feel fine despite a low testosterone may decline treatment, but in doing so may increase their risk of missing a prostate cancer due to the low testosterone causing a suppressesd PSA not to appear as rising; that, combined with the fact that guys with low testosterone tend to get more aggressive forms of prostate cancer when we do get it, is a bad combination. So looking at any/all of those markers can find things that are amiss. Then things we know reduce infection risk like zinc/quercetin, vitamin D (the 'studies' claiming it isn't helpful did not even measure pre/post treatment levels... - it is stuff a freshman in statistics would spot methodologically, but still gets published), and (for respiratory entry) Alkalol or other nasal washings (even just saline). SLEEP is a huge factor, and if your sleep is amiss, sometimes that will manifest in a mild fasting sugar elevation (105 in a non-diabetic, for instance), or a higher hemoglobin than you'd expect (if there is a bit of sleep apnea that is not severe enough to produce obvious symptoms). Keep in mind that if you use vitamins, some people can't activate (usually methylation) the B's that need that - pyridoxine, ribovlavin, folic acid, and cobalamin - so using the methylated or phosphorylated versions gets around that. Also docs make the mistake of measuring a B-12 level, instead of a methylmalonic acid level - the latter will elevate if YOUR B12 is insufficient, but since people's needs vary, a person may show an 'adequate' B12 level, yet have a soaring MMA, that needs addressed with B12 - probably the METHYL-cobalamin version.

Anyway - too much rambling, but just stuff most doctors should be going over to keep patients healthy but these days the rewards are for the 4-6 minute visit, so most docs just do that, order whatever tests their institution finds profitable, and that's about it.

[Grizz]

here's the reference i made about the "improved" killer vax . . . it's dead serious, according to this . . .
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https://www.infowars.com/posts/japan-to ... nth-report
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any thoughts or experiences with this one ?

[yooper2]

Sorry to hear about your shingles, they are a nightmare. Hopefully you don't have any long term effects.

I had them a couple years ago after a surgery for a broken collarbone. Now every time I get in the water, whether the shower or swimming and regardless of temperature, I get an electric shock sensation that lasts 1-2 seconds. Feels like like someone hooked me up to a 24v starter. Very unpleasant but thankfully brief.

Eric

[stretch]

I hope you've healed up, Earl.

My late friend Joe had a horrible case of shingles - he didn't wear pants
for about 6 months - too painful.

My mother had a case which spread to her brain. 16 days in the ICU, and
she was lucky to recover at age 90.

Not a good time!

-Stretch

[Steve in MO]

My wife got shingles by her left eye and on her head right before our oldest sons wedding. She said it hurt worse than giving birth to the boy and her appendix rupturing. Never seen her so miserable in 27 years together. Glad you're doing better! That reminds me, gotta call the VA and get my shingles shot, as well.

[AJMD429]

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Lidocaine patches can help the acute pain - the herpes zoster ('shingles') virus hides and reappears in schwann cells, which form the insulin around nerve cells - their destruction causes all sorts of severe neurologic pain.

Sometimes the methylated B's (products like MethylGuard Plus from Thorne) can bypass defective MTHFR or COMT enzymes and promote healing of the nerves a bit faster than without them.

EARLY (within 24 hours of earliest symptoms) treatment with valacyclovir can help too.

[AkRay]

A man in my church, Owen, got the shingles vaccine 15 or 20 years ago, and he ended up developing shingles in his eye. I don't know anymore about it, and he seems healthy enough today now that he's 75 or 76. My pastor was getting the shingles vaccine, and got the first shot, but then started talking to people about it. I think that's how he heard the story above. His grandson became autistic after getting a bunch of vaccinations all at once, and with the Covid hysteria, he's uneasy about vaccines now. My doctor has been after me to get the shingles vaccine, but I'm hesitant about it too.

[earlmck]

Thanks for the good thoughts guys -- i'm pretty well cleared up now. That chlorine dioxide saved my bacon (or head in this case) and is surely worth getting some to stash in the medical kit. Before starting the chlorine dioxide I was one miserable sucker with shingles over the right side of my head and inside my mouth and in my ear and sending out weird shooting pains. Not a recommended experience!

Doc, I didn't understand a third of your stuff on markers and tests and suspect my lady doc wouldn't either. I get the 4-minute visit and most of that is with the PA. I just go in annually so I can get a read on my vit D level (which I have to ask for as it is not a standard test). Probably got "low T" but that's not something tested for here.

Anyway, cleared up and ready to shoot steel buffalo starting Thursday...

[Bill in Oregon]

Earl, glad you are all clear and ready to shoot steel. While you are understandably giving credit to the chlorine dioxide, don't fail to give plenty of credit to the toughest, hardest-working retired range management specialist I ever had the pleasure of cutting juniper with.

[earlmck]

Earl, glad you are all clear and ready to shoot steel. While you are understandably giving credit to the chlorine dioxide, don't fail to give plenty of credit to the toughest, hardest-working retired range management specialist I ever had the pleasure of cutting juniper with.

Bill, the danged shingles doesn't have much respect for "tough" -- it was fairly giving me a real bad time. Plus I have got a whole lot less tough over the past decade I notice. Cut a few trees with the ole Stihl 46 the other day and thought "sheesh! this sucker's heavy!" And it used to be my light saw back in juniper slaying days...

[Bill in Oregon]

Earl, you ran that Stihl like it was all aluminum and made me feel like my little Husqvarna was made of lead!
I confess I struggle handling just a single sheet of drywall these days.