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Wheb I moved from Washington to Minnesota, Minnesota to Idaho and Idaho to Washington, All my guns were in my gun safe, wrapped in blankets so they fit tight in the safe. (I packed them to make sure thay were stowed properly. The drive never said anything about guns in the safe because there was no ...

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George Congrats on the find. Unless you intend to do a complete reblue job why not just clean it really good, lube it, fix the existing wood and use it. It can't be hurt by what you are doing with it and it will make a dandy work gun. Joe, That is exactly what I have been thinking. Not just a truck ...

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A week or so ago, I stopped into the local candy store to see what he had in the way of levers. As I walked in, a guy was just leaving, and a clerk was holding a 94 and was rubbing at some rust on the receiver. I could see that it was a pre-64 WInchester and he could see that I was interested, so he...

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I recently acquired a 1951 Winnie 94 and it could use a new front barrel band. Are the new barrel bands for the 94 AE's compatable with the pre-64 Winchesters?

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Great game, ain't it? -----------Sixgun It sure is!! Seems like every one of those old guns has its own personality. Kirk, it just goes to show you that fillers do have a place in the equation of making some guns shoot consistently. They are a PITN at times, but if you want to hunt with that 45-60,...

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Ed,
GREAT POST you old mythbuster!!

George

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Sixgun said: I told him, "Gary, you got robbed, this thing is refinished by the factory---see that little "R" next to the lever? It means "refinished".

Sixgun,
Did he ever talk to you again after he recovered from the heart attack??

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When I was growing up, my family hunted for arrowheads as an activity every weekend except during hunting season. My brother has the collection, but we had thousands of artifacts that we picked up over 25+ years. I remember days on the Columbia River before all the dams were put in when we found 35 ...

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According to the Greenhill formula, the longest bullet that will stabilize is .806" long. I assumed 1:38 twist, a diameter of .452, and velocity less than 1800fps.

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I really have enjoyed looking at these photos and thought you would enjoy this one too. This is the only picture of my great grandfather. It was taken somewhere in east Texas after he and his outfit cut a Union telegraph line in Kansas during the civil war. They rode hard for several days to elude t...

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We decided to take a drive to Lake Quinault over the weekend of the 4th. This is a rain forest, so it was a special treat to be there on a sunny day. The annual rainfall at Lake Quinault is usually between 120 and 140 inches. We took a hike up a side trail, then went down to the beaches near Kalaloc...

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Great news for you both! We'll keep her in our prayers for a speedy convalescence.

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When I was about 15, I spent a week with a buddy and his folks, camped out in the desert along the Columbia River in central Washington. We stayed in a tent about 300 feet from his folk's trailer, and we pretty much came and went as we pleased. Our main armament was recurve bows and we spent the day...

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Ed, This is MOST interesting to me. Your plan for the next round will answer some of the questions that popped up in my mind when I read the results of this round. Keep this up and you will be up for an episode of Mythbusters!! :lol: Keep us updated on the results of round #3! I looked up the loads ...

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I recently figured out how to make targets using the draw function in Word. You start by centering a 1" grid on the paper and them draw circles of any size or color that you want. I prefer orange targets, so that is what I use. I have made bullseyes from 1/4 to 5" in Word. I save paper tha...

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Thanks for the input guys. I'll use this info and search around and see if I can find a picture of it somewhere.

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A friend had this in some stuff he got from his dad's stuff and asked me what I thought it was from. The headstamp reads MKI1A3 AOP-1-42 1943 The base is .51 inches, length is about 1.5 inches, outside diameter tapers from .36 at the base to .35" at the open end. Inner diameter is .26". Th...

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The Gun Room was already mentioned, but they have a lot of nice guns to fondle. Their prices are out of line, but if you just want to look, it is a fun place. The guns are out on racks so you can access any of them. I was there last January and saw some nice 92's and some octagon barrelled 94 rifles.

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I used to get poisen oak when cruising timber in Oregon. At first, there was no reaction, then I got a spot, and over the years, with subsequent exposures, my reactions gradually got a little worse. Now if I get it, I'll wind up with an area a few inches long. I know some people who cannot even walk...

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Every time this thread has emerged in the last year or so, I have held off showing all of you my reloading bench. Many of you have these cool man caves that serve you well. Well, when it was time to start reloading that old 40-82, I had just moved across country for the third time in five years. Not...

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Got any spare spare cash??

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When I was growing up, I was heavily influenced by my dad, who didn't think there was anything better than a model 12. I still have his 16 guage and a 12 guage that I picked up along the way. Many folks felt the same way until steel shot came along. I was talking to a guy recently about this and he ...

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I have to weigh in on this thread because I have had to learn the hard way how to get the most out of a couple of 86's that I have. They are a 40-82 and a 45-90. Both seem to need fillers when using smokeless powders. I have used 5744 and 3031 in them with similar results. The funny thing is that th...

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In my college years, I was reassembling my model 12 winchester after cleaning it and one of my roommates asked me if I knew how to put guns back together. I told him I was no gunsmith but I could usually figure things out if I saw the gun assembled. He went into his bedroom and came out with a box o...

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Kirk,
Good shooting! It is almost amazing what the older rifles can still do.

But why would a guy even wonder though. They were made in a time when the ability to hit what you were shooting at could make the difference between life or death.

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Hobie, thanks for your efforts!!

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I have 1886s with both Lyman and Redfield receiver sights. The quality is very much the same on the vintage examples of both. The Lyman has been assigned a higher value, perhaps from collector recognition, but dollarwise, the Redfield is the better buy. The Redfield 70F, 80F, and 102F were availabl...

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Some really great stories have emreged as a result of this post. It is nice to know that I am not the only one who cherishes a great old gun that has been handed down through the generations. The trek with my 86 isn't over yet. I like the idea of browning the receiver rather than bluing it. I'll kee...

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J Miller wrote:Because of the family history that old Winchester is worth more than money.

Well said J. I could never put a price on it and will most likely pass it on to a grandchild that will appreciate it for what it is and not for the few dollars its sale would generate.

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A week or so I posted pictures of the repair I made on my 86 and jmiller asked if I would post before and after pics of the entire rifle. Before doing that, I am going to retell the story behind this rifle. in 1929, when my dad was 16, he was at an auction and this rifle was on the block. It is an 1...

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When I was a kid, we were hunting elk from a spot above a cliff, looking down on a main trail that was about 600 yards away as measured by the slope distance. The horizonatal distnce was around 300 yards. When we shot at the elk with guns zeroed at 250, you put the crosshairs where you wanted to hit...

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I have guns in both cartridges. I started out with a bolt gun in 06, then bought a 308 in BLR and never went back. I like the 308 because that gun is more accurate than the 06 and it is a LEVER GUN!! :D Although you can load the 06 up or down to go after just about anything that roams this continent...

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One little trick you may want to consider for the next one is to taper the sides of the notch then slightly taper the patch piece but leave it just a bit over-size. When you clamp it in the patch will conform a little better and once sanded the lines will virtually disappear. That is a good tidbit ...

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Sixgun wrote:What caliber is the '86 in?-

She is a 40-82.

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I have an 1886 that I have referred to here in previous posts that has been in my family since the late 20's. It was a beater then, and sat for about 80 years without a rear sight and was basically ignored. There was no ammo for it, but I used to sneak into dad's closet and work that lever action, a...

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Welcome to the fire. I am north of you between Olympia and Aberdeen. You will learn a lot from this group of guys.

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The .406 jacketed bullets will work a lot better than .406 cast in a .4077 barrel. They seem to engage with the rifling better that the undersize lead do. IIRC the .406 jacketed bullets that I shot before I got the right sized cast (.410) for my gun were hitting around 4" at 50 yards while the ...

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I recently picked up a BL-22 and tried putting a scope on it, but it just didn't feel or look right. What are the available options for peep sights that will fit into the grooves on the receiver, or does someone make a dovetail sight that would fit? In the recent past there was a picture of a Willia...

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I went into the local WM for about 6-8 weeks with no success in getting any 22 ammo. About 2 weeks ago, I went in on Wednesday, same story, then remembered hearing that Thursday is stock day at that store. I stopped on Thursday and they had Federal and Remington 22 ammo in stock. The federal was 14....

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major wrote:That is some awsome pic's thanks so much for posting them...

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I have spent most of my life in Washington, with a 5 year stint in Oregon, 3 years in Idaho and 2 years in Minnesota. The biggest contrast occurs everywhere between urbanite and out of towners, although the pace of life speeds up when ever you are anywhere close to large metro areas. I realized this...

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First thing to do is slug your barrel to find out the bore dimension. Kansas Ed sizes his to .4085, my 86 was made in 1887 and the bore is .409, so I load it with bullets sized to .410. As KE said, you then have to do some neck reaming to get the loaded cartridges to chamber. If your gun has the &qu...

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This is one of the funniest stories I have heard in a long time!!

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JI, Keep mending and don't overdo it while in recovery! This would be a great time to start tying flies! I started flyfishing about 35 years ago. I have an assortment of rods. There are a couple 2's, a 4, 5, three 6's, a couple 7's and a 9. I used a 2 wt for trout until I broke it on a fish in Idaho...

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Whoa!!!! I have French roots and I find this type of incessant jabbing at the French totally and irrefutably justifiable and verrrry verrry funny!!

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Sorry to hear about your buddy. I picked up a pre-64 88 in 308 (no scope) within the last 3-4 months at a local shop. Metal is excellent, but the wood has spots where the finish appears to have chipped off. I shot an inch and a half group at 100 yards the first 3 shots out of the barrel with open si...

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What caliber? I'd like to know what it weighs. Dave It weighs in at 8.4 pounds and is a 45-90. SN is 47xxx, making it an 1890 rifle. It is too bad that it was hacked up, but at the time it was done it probably wasn't considered to be a big deal. I bought it because it was a 45-90, which is the pare...

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I mentioned this gun in another thread and TedH said he would like to see pictures of it, so here they are. This gun was modified by someone who wasn't afraid to seriously change the configuration of an original 86. The barrel was cut to 20", and machined to a tapered round barrel in front of t...

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IMHO My pre-81 BLR is hard to beat, but I have an 86 in 45-90 that someone customized by shortening the barrel to 20" and cut back the magazine tube. They turned the front part of the octagon barrel to reduce the weight. The result is a gun that is quick and a whole lot lighter to carry than a ...

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