Accurate No. 9 vs. 2400

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Accurate No. 9 vs. 2400

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Several of the Alliant powders including 2400 and good old Unique have been hard to find for a while now. I use Universal in place of Unique in many loads, but am wondering if Accurate No. 9 is as useful as 2400 in the bigger bores for hunting loads -- particularly the .41.
If you have run much No. 9, I'd love to hear your thoughts. Paco seemed to like it in his .41 Magnum-- Sunday's Child article but my old wrists tell me I don't need to be running a 240-grain WFN at 1500 plus -- more like a more shootable 1100-1200.
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A good question Bill, id appreciate some input about #9 as well.
I bought a pound of cfe pistol to try in my Special 44 special and found it very pleasant with light easy recoil cast loads. Tried it in the 41 as well, it's not a rip snorting fire breathing critter.
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Bill, one of my favorite loads in .41 mag is with AA-9. 17.5 gr behind an RCBS cast 210 gr is very accurate in my 6 1/2" Blackhawk, moving out at 1330fps. A moderate load with the same bullet uses 14.5 gr of AA-9 for a velocity of 1030fps. AA-9 works well throughout different pressure levels. I have never used anything but standard primers with it.
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Thanks fellas! Looks like I need to try a pound.
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I have used it in my 41 to great effect. Very accurate. I also have used it for 44 mag, 10 mm, and 357 mag. It works well in those as well
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In one of his Youtube videos, Brian Pearce talked about shooting a coyote with a .41 mag Blackhawk at 175 yards using 19.5 grains of AA-9. Seems needlessly hot to me but what do I know? He's the authority.....
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Bill, I have burned a lot of #9, and it has done well in moderate 44 and 41 magnums. I have found top end loads are still best with H110/296 though.
The only thing I use #9 for now is full power 357 Sig loads, and there it is unbeatable! Incredible velocities, in my gun substantially higher than expected. But the main reason I like it in that application is due to it being a compressed load, preventing bullet set back which is a real concern with 357 Sig reloads due to the incredibly short neck. My 4" Glock barrel spits out 125 gr bullets over 1400 fps. That's true 357 Magnum performance with a 13 +1 capacity in a easy to carry semi auto.
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Ted, that's impressive performance indeed! I have enjoyed shooting the .357 Sig when I have had the chance. Used to be the issue sidearm for the New Mexico State Police.
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I had been wondering if Winchester 244 could do it since its right there on the burn chart. I don't know enough about powders to make an educated guess outside of where it lands on the burn chart.

Edit: I was mixing up Unique and Universal on the chart. 244 is right with those two not 2400
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Sir, I am not a "powder guesser" either.
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Walt wrote: Fri May 09, 2025 1:38 pm In one of his Youtube videos, Brian Pearce talked about shooting a coyote with a .41 mag Blackhawk at 175 yards using 19.5 grains of AA-9. Seems needlessly hot to me but what do I know? He's the authority.....
I'd be curious as too what bullet he was using. 18.0 us pretty much max with a 210 grain bullet. But I do find he is pretty much spot on and a lot of his loads are pressure tested particularly if they are gong to be published in HandLoader or Loaddata.com
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Bill in Oregon wrote: Fri May 09, 2025 7:58 am Several of the Alliant powders including 2400 and good old Unique have been hard to find for a while now. I use Universal in place of Unique in many loads, but am wondering if Accurate No. 9 is as useful as 2400 in the bigger bores for hunting loads -- particularly the .41.
If you have run much No. 9, I'd love to hear your thoughts. Paco seemed to like it in his .41 Magnum-- Sunday's Child article but my old wrists tell me I don't need to be running a 240-grain WFN at 1500 plus -- more like a more shootable 1100-1200.
I haven't used No9, but loaddata.com shows about 100 entries for .41 Mag and No9 and another 7 for .41 Special. I'm sure there's more than a few duplicate loads in that number but it might be worth looking into.
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Bill, unfortunately I have only used AA9 in the 10mm and 32-20. In both cartridges it burns cleanly and provides good velocities with very good accuracy. I definitely do not get nearly as many split cases with it as opposed to H110.

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For some reason Accurate No. 5 and No. 7 are abundant locally, but no 9 yet. I am seeing it online at Natchez, Powder Valley, etc., so it is probably just a matter of time.
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I saw the Shooters World ' heavy handgun' is very close to 2400/296/H110/ #9 . I didn't see data, just that it's very close.
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I’ve had good results with AA#9 in both .44 Mag and .357 Mag but I use it most in .300Blackout with 125gr supers. It has been the most accurate powder with both Nosler Partitions and Hornady V-Max bullets.
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Latest Handloader magazine has an article about the 25-20, AA9 is listed... I really need to find a pound or 2.
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