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I’ve killed a number of deer and hogs with the.300 Blackout now and I really like it for the ranges that I hunt in South Texas. Let’s say out to 200 yards.

I’ve been playing around with a Q Mini Fix which is a short bolt action with an 8 inch barrel and a 1/5 twist rate. A great gun for use with a suppressor.

It’s cold here today, but shooting out of my running pickup with a partially rolled down window, I shot two three shot groups with an adjustment between) at 200.
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This was two shots at 100. Not bad for a 4 1/2 pound rifle.
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Sweet. I've got a 16" AR with KalyKey since I'm in Kalifornication! :roll:
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1894cfan wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2024 3:12 pm Sweet. I've got a 16" AR with KalyKey since I'm in Kalifornication! :roll:
I’m sorry about that! Hopefully one day that will change.
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Not much you can do about it. Besides, the main reason I use it is to keep the brass from flying everywhere! Other than that I keep the BCG in it. I've named it Casper. I just hope it doesn't get mad at anything!
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That's a cool looking action Scott!

I'd like one of their actions to build my own but looking at their site they don't sell the receiver only. Not sure what caliber I'd do though...
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First time I have seen that make and model, Scott. Looks like just about the perfect truck gun.
I've shot the Blackout but would like to work with Bill Wilson's .300 HAM'R some time.
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It’s amazing how compact this is.
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Bill, my son who lived in the Houston area began his AR platform variations with a 300 Blackout but got bored with it. He then built a 300 HAM'R and used it very successfully for a year or so on pigs, coyotes and deer. He followed Bill Wilson's recommendations and comments and was quite pleased with it. Later he moved near Ft Worth, away from his pig hunting areas and began focusing on elk cartridges. I would say that if he were to hunt pigs again he would definitely use his 300 HAM'R mounted with a night vision scope again.
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Everyone who uses them are adamant that the barnes 110 gr. tsx at 1500 to 2300 fps. is instantly graveyard deadly on deer/swine.....

I am willing to try same but the deer have to cooperate which apparently they are loathe to do....I may have to go on one of those tennessee or florida canned hunts.....
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I find that this rifle likes the 120 gr Barnes loading better. The box says 2100 fps but I’m sure that’s from a longer barrel.

When I go back to the Cherry Bomb it will cut off another inch or so. I have a Q Trash Panda waiting for permission from the government.
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I have my Wraith on a 300 Blackout. Love it so far. Need to shoot some groups.
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8” barrel………couple of grand with top quality parts…….beer can accurate out to 300 meters.——-00


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Somehow, and I am not certain how that was, I had convinced myself I did not need a 300 BO. I am starting to doubt myself!
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Sixgun wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2024 9:58 pm 8” barrel………couple of grand with top quality parts…….beer can accurate out to 300 meters.——-00


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...but it has to have a $3,000 scope to be any good, doesn't it...???
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Just in case.

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But no, it doesn’t need a thousand dollars worth of glass to be useful. This 3x prism scope is just right.
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Ray wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2024 6:13 pm
I am willing to try same but the deer have to cooperate which apparently they are loathe to do....I may have to go on one of those tennessee or florida canned hunts.....
I watched a number of deer this year but didn’t kill one. No shortage of opportunity.
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Scott Tschirhart wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:16 am
Ray wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2024 6:13 pm
I am willing to try same but the deer have to cooperate which apparently they are loathe to do....I may have to go on one of those tennessee or florida canned hunts.....
I watched a number of deer this year but didn’t kill one. No shortage of opportunity.
I have a solitary forked spike maintaining a 1500 ft. rub line across a ridge on our very small acreage. I'm not anxious to slay him but the nearby highway claims several a year. Therein lies the conundrum. Let them walk to grow older & breed but they often become roadkill.
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Ray wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2024 3:36 pm
Scott Tschirhart wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:16 am
Ray wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2024 6:13 pm
I am willing to try same but the deer have to cooperate which apparently they are loathe to do....I may have to go on one of those tennessee or florida canned hunts.....
I watched a number of deer this year but didn’t kill one. No shortage of opportunity.
I have a solitary forked spike maintaining a 1500 ft. rub line across a ridge on our very small acreage. I'm not anxious to slay him but the nearby highway claims several a year. Therein lies the conundrum. Let them walk to grow older & breed but they often become roadkill.
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I have to admit that this cartridge reminds me a lot of the .30 Herrett’s and the writing about that cartridge many years ago
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I have barely touched a 5.56 since I jumped on the 300 Whisper (precursor to 300blk) 15 years ago. Such a great cartridge IMHO. I really like the 130 and 150 grain Sierra Varminter projectiles for super and the 200gr Maker REX for subs
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I rarely shoot any 5.56 or .233 these days.
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Scott Tschirhart wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 12:25 pm I rarely shoot any 5.56 or .233 these days.
It happens Scott, especially if you’ve been doing it all your life……I don’t even shoot on 4th of July anymore when at one time I’d have an AR in each hand blasting into a pile of sand.

I shot a fox last month that I’ve been feeding for several years…..it was 20 degrees and this animal had zero hair on it. Looked like one of those animals they see in Texas and Mexico…..00
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Here is my little 300 Blackout that I built. It has a 6" barrel and usually wears an Omega 36m Suppressor.
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Rube Burrows wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 2:25 pm Here is my little 300 Blackout that I built. It has a 6" barrel and usually wears an Omega 36m Suppressor.
Very nice. I quit 300blk because I am completely capable of trying to squeeze one thru a 556. This is my current 30, that I most likely will not try to cross-pollenate. I sometimes call him "car-go" as if he replaced my dog . . .
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horsesoldier03 wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:01 amSomehow, and I am not certain how that was, I had convinced myself I did not need a 300 BO. I am starting to doubt myself!
+1... And as long as I have a .30-30, I probably won't.
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“…I quit 300blk because I am completely capable of trying to squeeze one thru a 556…”

That is definitely a concern. I have so far been meticulous about that and use only bright red anodized aluminum magazines for 300 blackout. I also make it a habit not to shoot 5.56 at the same time.

They say the 300 blackout would not chamber in a 223, and I have seen someone take an A-Zoom snap cap in 300 blackout and a 5.56 firearm, and certainly it won’t chamber, but the problem is every load I’ve seen has a low enough powder volume and light enough crimp that the bolt slamming forward could jam the bullet back into the case, and certainly could allow the bolt to go far enough forward to fire, or at least that would be my fear.
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Most people don’t realize the original intent and R&D for the 300 B.O……..civilians try to make it something it’s not………you either like it or you don’t…..—-00
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AJMD429 wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 8:32 pm .
“…I quit 300blk because I am completely capable of trying to squeeze one thru a 556…”

That is definitely a concern. I have so far been meticulous about that and use only bright red anodized aluminum magazines for 300 blackout. I also make it a habit not to shoot 5.56 at the same time.

They say the 300 blackout would not chamber in a 223, and I have seen someone take an A-Zoom snap cap in 300 blackout and a 5.56 firearm, and certainly it won’t chamber, but the problem is every load I’ve seen has a low enough powder volume and light enough crimp that the bolt slamming forward could jam the bullet back into the case, and certainly could allow the bolt to go far enough forward to fire, or at least that would be my fear.
yeah, a slam fire. it has happened, a 300 round in the middle of a 556 mag. besides the ar-47 fits with my battle aftermath resupply theory. AND I absolutely pray that I never have to test it ! ! ! !
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I think I am unlikely to have a problem like that with this bolt gun.

Note that my .300 magazines are well marked (probably overkill) so I keep them separate.
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Scott Tschirhart wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2024 7:26 am I think I am unlikely to have a problem like that with this bolt gun.

Note that my .300 magazines are well marked (probably overkill) so I keep them separate.
note that my 30 magazines are shaped like a banana, i could still insert one into the 556 and blow it up, it's a me-thing. I keep the 30 stuff in the case with the 50 stuff on the theory that I can keep them straight . . . :lol: :lol: :lol:

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And I keep FDE mags for the BO and black for the 5.56/223 wylde riffles. Made the mistake ONCE of trying a 300BLK LIGHTLY loaded 22 sabot with a 55gr cast bullet in a 223 wylde rifle, cracked the P80 mag well, blew out the magazine and locked up the action with a stuck case in the chamber. Had to disassemble the upper and take it in to the local gunsmith to have it removed! I wasn't thinking THAT day! :shock: :roll:
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That sounds painful!

I don’t wish that kind of accident on anyone.
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Scott, replaced the mag, epoxied the cracked mag well, oh, also had to replace the mag release cause it got bent, and when I got the upper back from the gunsmith, put everything back together, and it's GTG! I'm just lucky that I was using a LIGHT load, else it would have been a kaboom!
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Scott, replaced the mag, epoxied the mag well, had to replace the mag release cause it got bent, and when I got the upper back from the gunsmith put it all back together and it was GTG. It was lucky I was using a LIGHT load or it would have gone kaboom!
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Griff wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 5:10 pm
horsesoldier03 wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:01 amSomehow, and I am not certain how that was, I had convinced myself I did not need a 300 BO. I am starting to doubt myself!
+1... And as long as I have a .30-30, I probably won't.
I am about to pick up the 30-30 that my dad had when I was growing up. It will keep me more than satisfied without feeling the need for a 300 BO.
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horsesoldier03 wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2024 8:55 pm
Griff wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 5:10 pm
horsesoldier03 wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:01 amSomehow, and I am not certain how that was, I had convinced myself I did not need a 300 BO. I am starting to doubt myself!
+1... And as long as I have a .30-30, I probably won't.
I am about to pick up the 30-30 that my dad had when I was growing up. It will keep me more than satisfied without feeling the need for a 300 BO.
They are pretty similar on the receiving end I think.

One better for semiautos and pointy bullets and the other better for leverguns and higher-power loads.

Both fun. Certainly a person should at least have one or another, if not both... :)
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My Wife did well with the M16A1 in basic. She prefers the AR15 in 300 BO to the 30-30. Not a lot of real world difference.
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I don’t own a semi auto in .300 BO. I think it’s a dandy bolt gun though.

I’ve got an old Remington 788 chambered in .223 that might be an excellent candidate for rebarrelling but I don’t need another one of anything.
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I have a 300 BO pistol and a Ruger Ranch. I use Lancer mags for those, and PMAGs and GI mags for my 223s
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