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And I like that!
Stopped at the Nolan County Courthouse Friday to vote a few days early just because, and what do I behold in the hallway outside the County Clerk's office? An outstanding Winchester collection! Sure was unexpected and a very pleasant surprise. Sharp eyes will notice the very fine Lee Navy sporter at the far right, just beyond the Model 1907 Self Loading rifles.
I will confess right off that that little 6mm would be my choice if forced to choose just one, as this obsolete straight-pull chambered for a cartridge way ahead of its time has long fascinated me.

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Cool, I immediately zeroed in on the 76 and 94!
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I haven't been paying attention. I missed where you moved from NM to TX.....
25 years ago, when Daughter was young, I should have escaped the durance vile that Washington became and done the same. I've been mighty taken with little towns along the 90 between Marfa and Langtry :mrgreen:
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Blaine, Oregon is voting on a measure tomorrow -- M 114 -- that would require safety training and a permit to buy any firearm, plus police keeping a record of your purchase, plus a ban on certain magazines and more -- it's the "Progressive" socialists from Portland spreading their freedom-hating filth.
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Blaine, much as i love visiting Texas, there is nearly zero public land there. they do not provide open access to the millions of acres that make up their ranch and farm lands. In Wa or Or or Ut or Nm or Az or Mt or Wy or Id there are open range public access lands where "dispersed camping" is accommodated in the dot gov policy, and ranchers share the grazing spaces with us. It's not that way in Tx. Walmart parking lots, in most cases, are the nearest analog. I often sleep in towns parking in the only shade available, and moving before it looks like i am living there. The ranchers and farmers are very quick to point out that crossing a fence line is trespassing. I can't blame them for that, it's their property.

I have heard that there are a couple spots of public access where folks can hunt game in season, but Oh My, i can't imagine being in that crowd of 'shooters'.

I love Texas, with no recriminations from me, it is what it is. But it's different from our public lands. Where people are quick to point out that "you can camp and sleep anywhere you want to on that mountain, it's public". When I stop in Moab and ask about nearby access, folks go out of their way to point out spots i can get to before dark... they jealously guard their access by sharing it.

I am blessed to have an open access ranch available to visit, my son's.... where the turkeys and deer and hogs play...

just have to be very very careful not to shoot the longhorns...

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Grizz, for a guy who lived in Oregon, Washington and New Mexico for most of his life, I was greatly concerned about the relative lack of public land here in the Lone Star State. Outside of a scattering of state parks, one national park, three very small national forests (Davy Crockett, Sam Houston and Sabine) northeast of Houston, and some wildlife management areas, you have to know someone or be willing to pay to get off the road. Fortunately, Texas is blessed with some very good fishing in its many lakes and streams and along the coast.
So far I have been keeping my mouth shut and my ears open for a chance to hunt. Gotta get a boat.
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Bill in Oregon wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 4:05 pm Grizz, for a guy who lived in Oregon, Washington and New Mexico for most of his life, I was greatly concerned about the relative lack of public land here in the Lone Star State. Outside of a scattering of state parks, one national park, three very small national forests (Davy Crockett, Sam Houston and Sabine) northeast of Houston, and some wildlife management areas, you have to know someone or be willing to pay to get off the road. Fortunately, Texas is blessed with some very good fishing in its many lakes and streams and along the coast.
So far I have been keeping my mouth shut and my ears open for a chance to hunt. Gotta get a boat.
There are a few "picnic" pullouts along some of the roads and i've overnighted in them. Everyone is passing at 85 so there's not a lot of night traffic past the picnic tables.

Hope you find a good fishing setup. Texas roads are about the best in the country as far as i know, i love driving the secondaries and usually cross the state diagonally to the hill country. I have a kayak i could pack around, but haven't yet. I have in mind to visit Palo Duro, but don't know if i can overnight in the parking area. Have you been there?

What kind of fishing do you prefer?

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Seeing those 1907's gave me a good reason to smile. I have a couple. I really enjoy shooting them, and even hunting with them. But it's real hard to replace that .351 Winchester SL cartridge, which puts a bit of a damper on shooting as often as I would like.
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Ithardman: Some years back, I had a 1907 in .351, and bought ammo for it that was manufactured from .357 Maximum brass with the rim turned down. Might have gotten it from Buffalo Arms in Idaho.
Grizz, I'll fish for most anything. Lots of stripers and hybrid stripers not far from here -- I am thinking a 10-weight, sinking line and a great big Clouser. State record crappie is 4 1/2 pounds. Would love to flyfish for spotted seatrout and redfish down south along the coast.
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Grizz, we were at Palo Duro Canyon earlier this year and it appears to me that camping in the canyon is allowed only in designated areas. The park's front gate is locked at night and there's a heck of a line of cars waiting to enter when the park opens in the morning. However, we were there over 4th of July weekend so it's entirely possible that the number of people in attendance was atypical. It was very hot and we saw lots of tarantulas on the trails.
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Grizz wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 1:10 pm Blaine, much as i love visiting Texas, there is nearly zero public land there. they do not provide open access to the millions of acres that make up their ranch and farm lands. In Wa or Or or Ut or Nm or Az or Mt or Wy or Id there are open range public access lands where "dispersed camping" is accommodated in the dot gov policy, and ranchers share the grazing spaces with us. It's not that way in Tx. Walmart parking lots, in most cases, are the nearest analog. I often sleep in towns parking in the only shade available, and moving before it looks like i am living there. The ranchers and farmers are very quick to point out that crossing a fence line is trespassing. I can't blame them for that, it's their property.

I have heard that there are a couple spots of public access where folks can hunt game in season, but Oh My, i can't imagine being in that crowd of 'shooters'.

I love Texas, with no recriminations from me, it is what it is. But it's different from our public lands. Where people are quick to point out that "you can camp and sleep anywhere you want to on that mountain, it's public". When I stop in Moab and ask about nearby access, folks go out of their way to point out spots i can get to before dark... they jealously guard their access by sharing it.

I am blessed to have an open access ranch available to visit, my son's.... where the turkeys and deer and hogs play...

just have to be very very careful not to shoot the longhorns...

Maybe you haven't looked for public land in Texas? There's zero BLM, but over 1,000,000 acres of hunting access.
https://tpwd.texas.gov/huntwild/hunt/public/
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Blaine wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 2:02 pm
Grizz wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 1:10 pm Blaine, much as i love visiting Texas, there is nearly zero public land there. they do not provide open access to the millions of acres that make up their ranch and farm lands. In Wa or Or or Ut or Nm or Az or Mt or Wy or Id there are open range public access lands where "dispersed camping" is accommodated in the dot gov policy, and ranchers share the grazing spaces with us. It's not that way in Tx. Walmart parking lots, in most cases, are the nearest analog. I often sleep in towns parking in the only shade available, and moving before it looks like i am living there. The ranchers and farmers are very quick to point out that crossing a fence line is trespassing. I can't blame them for that, it's their property.

I have heard that there are a couple spots of public access where folks can hunt game in season, but Oh My, i can't imagine being in that crowd of 'shooters'.

I love Texas, with no recriminations from me, it is what it is. But it's different from our public lands. Where people are quick to point out that "you can camp and sleep anywhere you want to on that mountain, it's public". When I stop in Moab and ask about nearby access, folks go out of their way to point out spots i can get to before dark... they jealously guard their access by sharing it.

I am blessed to have an open access ranch available to visit, my son's.... where the turkeys and deer and hogs play...

just have to be very very careful not to shoot the longhorns...

Maybe you haven't looked for public land in Texas? There's zero BLM, but over 1,000,000 acres of hunting access.
https://tpwd.texas.gov/huntwild/hunt/public/
that's correct. it's mostly bird shooting. it's not for "dispersed camping" which you can do legally on our public lands . . . here's a picture that might help >
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Screenshot 2022-11-08 123858-public-lands-map.png
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this is the point i failed to make. sorry

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Now that's just COOL....!

When I grew up our little town of 15,000 or so had a sheriff's office pretty much like on the Andy Griffith Show.
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Walt wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:37 pm Grizz, we were at Palo Duro Canyon earlier this year and it appears to me that camping in the canyon is allowed only in designated areas. The park's front gate is locked at night and there's a heck of a line of cars waiting to enter when the park opens in the morning. However, we were there over 4th of July weekend so it's entirely possible that the number of people in attendance was atypical. It was very hot and we saw lots of tarantulas on the trails.
Thanks Walt. If I get there I'll look for a wide shoulder to cat nap on. From photos it looks like a worthwhile place to visit.
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