Oh Winchester, what ever has happened to you.

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Nath
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Oh Winchester, what ever has happened to you.

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I picked a new Winchester 94 legacy in 30-30.
Within 10rounds the cartridge stop snapped!
It snapped because feeding the magazine is so difficult.
What ever has happened to Winchester come 2000 is shameful.
All my hopes have shattered.

So, do I return it or fix it??
Sleep on it I guess.
In the mean time has any one welded one up?
I recall building one up with weld once.
Any tips?
Thanks in advance.
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Update.
I think I found out why the brass rim is fouling up.
They have not relieved the steel enough!
Amateurs!
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Anyone come across this? I seem to recall someone once had to use a Dremel tool to open the magazine mouth in the receiver.
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The cartridge is wedged in the high spots.
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EVERY manufacturer turns out a lemon once in a while
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Receiver relieving done.
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Now it is feeding correctly.
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Now just got weld this up and grind to shape.
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Sorry I was ranting earlier. My frustration was overwhelming me!
Now I can see some hope.
It is though, such a shame Winchester, the great Winchester went this way just before their demise.
Hopefully soon I will have a good rifle. I've also stoned the trigger a little but that may take a few attempts. The sears are so fine you cannot rush it.
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wvfarrier wrote: Tue Oct 18, 2022 3:18 pm EVERY manufacturer turns out a lemon once in a while
Sure, I think I've got the lemon magnet hidden on me somewhere! :evil:
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It was very close to the timeframe that I got My Legacy in .45 colt...............The Bluing and the stock finish was A+....but the action was so over sprung You could hardly work the lever .........The Trigger pull could be measured by draft horses.....IFFF it were Mine I'd gladly give it away . and then look for a really GREAT ROSSI that You can make better. ........
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Hi Nath, so sorry for your troubles my friend, particularly as you are in the UK where options are more limited (I think Commiefornia is the same or working on being the same though). You are smart guy and seemed to have figured it out. I'm sure there are better parts out there made of better materials that might be worth looking into but your welded piece will probably do. Sorry for my USA companies lack of quality. :( -Tutt
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I'll get the darn thing running. Perhaps I should hang a gun smith sign on the front. Specialist in Winchester 94's!

Hey 45colt, send the thing over to me, soon have it slicked up.
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Nath wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 1:06 am I'll get the darn thing running. Perhaps I should hang a gun smith sign on the front. Specialist in Winchester 94's!

Hey 45colt, send the thing over to me, soon have it slicked up.
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NEW HAVEN OR JAPCHESTER?
LETS GO SHOOT'N BOYS
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RIHMFIRE wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 6:23 am NEW HAVEN OR JAPCHESTER?
New Haven.
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Welding and shaping done
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Then shaping.
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Now back together and cycling after some fitting.
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Trigger is improved with a smooth first stage and no hammer camming but still heavy so I will be revisiting there.
This has been a massive let down. I'm not particularly overwhelmed with my repair but I guess I will soon forget it if all else goes well.

If there is one good thing about a 94 it's that they are easy to fix and work on!
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I'm sorry for your troubles, but thanks for writing them up. Good Luck to you and to all our special friends across the sea.
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The quality of most guns out on the market today is down overall in general. Most places no longer employ true gunsmiths, but rather focus on one task and they are not even required to master that. I used to think that I would like to have a nice Colt Revolver, however, Colt is notorious for not throwing parts away even if they are out of specs. Alot of those parts end up in Commemorative Guns that they feel will never be fired or even the cylinder turned.
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Thank you Prisdefer and yes that is sadly true horsesoldier.

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