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#1 Post by Ray » Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:35 pm

in memory of mister Murbach, hows about we start a W.T.M. Memorial .32 Associates page ?

The idea came to me one day when plinking at a beer can stuck onto a blackberry brier with a Beretta 81 7.65mm.

In as many trips afield to shoot, I had used a S & W 431pd with longs, a cz70 7.65mm, a taurus .327 with H & R mags., and a S & W 1905 .32 wcf (believe it or not, it shoots longs too).

So am I alone as a fan of .32s ?
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#2 Post by piller » Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:14 am

We have a .327 in both pistol and rifle. A .32 Special would be quite nice, but tyey are sort of hard to find.
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#3 Post by AJMD429 » Sun Sep 08, 2019 7:04 am

I like 32-20's.....
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#4 Post by piller » Sun Sep 08, 2019 8:13 am

I doubt enough people know about the .32 Special for there to be enough interest that any manufacturer would make a run of them. Too bad. I never knew about them until it was practically too late. Maybe I can find a used .30-30 cheap enough for a conversion to be worth the effort. I know, there is not much to do in order to make the change. New barrel, cartridge lifter, and make sure a few other parts are in good condition.

OK, I have to find a Winchester in .30-30 with the receiver and stock in good shape. If the barrel is not really useable, then I have a project. Can anyone give me a reason to not start looking for a gun to do this with? What manufacturer of barrel would you suggest? Shilen is local and I can walk in to their front desk and make my order. Any suggestions on maybe better and still reasonably priced barrels?
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#5 Post by piller » Sun Sep 08, 2019 8:19 am

Would Terry have told me to go forth with this project? I didn't know him other than his posts on here. I would think that he would be pleased if I can find a rifle to resurrect and change into a .32 Special.
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#6 Post by Ray » Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:47 am

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I doubt enough people know about the .32 Special for there to be enough interest that any manufacturer would make a run of them. Too bad. I never knew about them until it was practically too late. Maybe I can find a used .30-30 cheap enough for a conversion to be worth the effort. I know, there is not much to do in order to make the change. New barrel, cartridge lifter, and make sure a few other parts are in good condition.

OK, I have to find a Winchester in .30-30 with the receiver and stock in good shape. If the barrel is not really useable, then I have a project. Can anyone give me a reason to not start looking for a gun to do this with? What manufacturer of barrel would you suggest? Shilen is local and I can walk in to their front desk and make my order. Any suggestions on maybe better and still reasonably priced barrels?

What passes these days for Winchester still makes them.....

https://www.wholesalehunter.com/Product ... rce=A10003

Kittery usually has several old ones in stock.....

https://www.kitterytradingpost.com/new- ... Winchester
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#7 Post by Ray » Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:50 am

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I doubt enough people know about the .32 Special for there to be enough interest that any manufacturer would make a run of them. Too bad. I never knew about them until it was practically too late. Maybe I can find a used .30-30 cheap enough for a conversion to be worth the effort. I know, there is not much to do in order to make the change. New barrel, cartridge lifter, and make sure a few other parts are in good condition.

OK, I have to find a Winchester in .30-30 with the receiver and stock in good shape. If the barrel is not really useable, then I have a project. Can anyone give me a reason to not start looking for a gun to do this with? What manufacturer of barrel would you suggest? Shilen is local and I can walk in to their front desk and make my order. Any suggestions on maybe better and still reasonably priced barrels?
Here is where you get your 25-35 or 30-30 rebored to .32 win. spl.

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#8 Post by Old Savage » Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:59 am

Have one of the Ruger Buckeye 32 mag/32-20s in the works when it makes it thru the Calif laws.
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#13 Post by ollogger » Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:36 pm

Yep. I like the 32 H&R & the 32 special, in fact I took it out( 32 spl.) yesterday & warmed it up good & proper
have shot the 32 S&W in the 32 H&R & is fun to shoot, I have a 32 spl. barrel that is 24 in, long & was going to put it on one of
my 94 30-30s but never got that done, to many other guns to keep me busy,

so Piller I may part with that if interested


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#14 Post by Old Savage » Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:08 pm

32 Mag with a Mora Garberg in carbon steel.
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#15 Post by M. M. Wright » Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:59 pm

Doc AJ, I like the 32-20 too. I can't seem to hang on to SAA barrels or cylinders in the cal. I never let anyone see my 92 Winchester rifle that NKJ tuned up for me. Come to think of it, time to limber it up when I feel better.
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#16 Post by Tycer » Sun Sep 08, 2019 9:40 pm

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I doubt enough people know about the .32 Special for there to be enough interest that any manufacturer would make a run of them. Too bad. I never knew about them until it was practically too late. Maybe I can find a used .30-30 cheap enough for a conversion to be worth the effort. I know, there is not much to do in order to make the change. New barrel, cartridge lifter, and make sure a few other parts are in good condition.

OK, I have to find a Winchester in .30-30 with the receiver and stock in good shape. If the barrel is not really useable, then I have a project. Can anyone give me a reason to not start looking for a gun to do this with? What manufacturer of barrel would you suggest? Shilen is local and I can walk in to their front desk and make my order. Any suggestions on maybe better and still reasonably priced barrels?
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#17 Post by piller » Sun Sep 08, 2019 10:54 pm

I need to find the gun now. New ones are $1,000 or more. A trapper length sounds great.
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#18 Post by Marlin32 » Mon Sep 09, 2019 6:41 pm

Marlin 32 Special
Colt Pocket Positive 32 Colt NP
Ruger Vaquero 32 H&R custom by Gary reeder
32 auto Beretta
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#19 Post by BenT » Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:35 pm

I am a32 addict, I am thinking about adding a single six with a Bisley grip.

Ruger single six 32 H&R
Ruger single seven
Ruger Blackhawk 327
S&W Hand ejector 32-20
CZ 50 32 ACP
Savage 1907 32 ACP
H&R self loader 32 ACP
H&R 32 long

Henry 327
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(2) Win 94 32 special
Muzzleloader 32 cal
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#20 Post by Marvin S » Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:54 pm

Trying to think here.
Three 32-20 rifles
Two 32-20 revolvers
Three 32 mag revolvers
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One 32 S&w long rifle
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#21 Post by Ray » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:35 am

And all this time I thought I was a fair .32 collector, a tenderfooted novice perhaps. But now I find that I am even lower, definitely nothing more than a rank sugarfoot.....

Keep them coming.....Give me some goals to aim for......
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#22 Post by Ray » Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:04 am

This is a cz-50.....

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vz._50

This is a cz-52.....

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CZ_52

Quite a bit of difference.....

One fits in a pocket and just goes pop and you can pretend you're a poor man's james bond.

The other is almost as big and ugly as a borchardt and rings ears even with plugs in.....

The other morning we shot two magazines full from the cz-52.....I think they were sellior & belliot fmj.s......

We heard tires crunch on chert and the creak of the pasture gate. A neighbor from about 3/8s a mile down the road came walking up. "I wish you all wouldn't shoot them whump-whumps so early in the a.m.!"

When he saw all we had with us were conventional self-loaders and revolvers he apologized for interrupting and left.....

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#23 Post by vancelw » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:46 am

I'm not sure why you would convert a .30-30 to .32 Winchester Special. There are plenty of the latter out there in fine condition for a nice price.

I have :
Winchester Model 94 (1960?) in .32 Special
Marlin 336 A-DL in .32 WS

Also:
Browning 53 in .32-20
Cimarron (Uberti) 1873 in .32-20

Ruger SP101 in .327 (would love to have a .32-20 HV cylinder made for it one day)
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#24 Post by piller » Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:15 pm

Vance, next time you see one in good condition for a reasonble price let me know. I will pay for your meal at the same place we met up last time. I can't find one close to me.
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#25 Post by vancelw » Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:43 pm

piller wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:15 pm
Vance, next time you see one in good condition for a reasonble price let me know. I will pay for your meal at the same place we met up last time. I can't find one close to me.
I've been working so much I haven't been to a guns show in ages.
Hit up the smaller ones around. Including Waco.
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#26 Post by hfcable » Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:23 pm

numrich appears to have new factory 32 special barrels in stock, for 57.00$

https://www.gunpartscorp.com/products/1756350

seems like a good deal and a cheap way to get a 32 special [ I already have one or I would buy one now ]
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#27 Post by Ray » Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:18 am

101 year old Smith & Wesson hand-ejector .32 w.c.f, carried for over a half century by a constable and night watchman trying to still be relevant in a tactitard world.....


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#28 Post by piller » Fri Sep 13, 2019 7:23 am

Just because it is not the latest whiz bang plastic fantastic does not mean that it cannot do the job in a great manner. There is too much evidence that many of the older cartridges are just as effective now as when they came out.
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#29 Post by Ray » Thu Sep 19, 2019 4:43 am

So piller, did you find yourself a .32 winchester ?
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#30 Post by piller » Thu Sep 19, 2019 6:41 am

I have one coming in soon. It is coming from Kittery's Trading post in Maine. Looking around near home, all there seemed to be were hard used ones that had a lot of rust and loose parts. The one at Kittery's is a 1959 year production in very good to excellent condition. The funny thing is that Kittery's had it priced cheaper, and the shipping plus the small price for the local gun store to do the necessary paperwork still will be less than buying one locally. As soon as it arrives, I will post pictures. A range trip is necessary, but it has to get here first. I am looking forward to it. Ace Hardware in Midlothian, Texas has 2 boxes of 170 grain Remington ammunition. I will be passing through there today and plan on stopping to get those 2 boxes. Yes, I decided to get one that does not need the work.
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#31 Post by Ray » Thu Sep 19, 2019 6:49 am

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I have one coming in soon. It is coming from Kittery's Trading post in Maine. Looking around near home, all there seemed to be were hard used ones that had a lot of rust and loose parts. The one at Kittery's is a 1959 year production in very good to excellent condition. The funny thing is that Kittery's had it priced cheaper, and the shipping plus the small price for the local gun store to do the necessary paperwork still will be less than buying one locally. As soon as it arrives, I will post pictures. A range trip is necessary, but it has to get here first. I am looking forward to it. Ace Hardware in Midlothian, Texas has 2 boxes of 170 grain Remington ammunition. I will be passing through there today and plan on stopping to get those 2 boxes. Yes, I decided to get one that does not need the work.
have they shipped it ?

sometimes you have to light a fire under their a***S there at K.T.P.

The ladies in the online ordering dept. does not get along nor communicate well with the gun dept.....

I have had to call everytime i have ordered online. So I might as well call the gun dept. directly. They are very professional and helpful even if they do talk funny !
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#32 Post by piller » Thu Sep 19, 2019 6:52 am

I plan on calling this afternoon after work. I am looking forward to having it in my hands.
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#33 Post by Ray » Thu Sep 19, 2019 7:06 am

Perhaps some of the mainers who have been to k.t.p. can explain the layout.

apparently they have the main(e) store and then they have another remote used gun dept. "across the river" as they say in new hampshire.

when you order online, you never know which store it is at.

i once waited about two weeks with only the initial email receipt before i called.....

maureen said "don't worry, we know just exactly where your gun is.....the rockingham county deputies expect to have their hands on it this afternoon and we'll ship it first thing tomorrow."

does not inspire confidence but that is the worst experience.....the rest were much better including the .56 renegade enroute right now.
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#34 Post by Bill in Oregon » Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:37 am

I've had good luck with Kittery a couple of times.

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#35 Post by Merle » Thu Sep 19, 2019 11:41 am

piller wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2019 8:13 am
I doubt enough people know about the .32 Special for there to be enough interest that any manufacturer would make a run of them. Too bad. I never knew about them until it was practically too late. Maybe I can find a used .30-30 cheap enough for a conversion to be worth the effort. I know, there is not much to do in order to make the change. New barrel, cartridge lifter, and make sure a few other parts are in good condition.

OK, I have to find a Winchester in .30-30 with the receiver and stock in good shape. If the barrel is not really useable, then I have a project. Can anyone give me a reason to not start looking for a gun to do this with? What manufacturer of barrel would you suggest? Shilen is local and I can walk in to their front desk and make my order. Any suggestions on maybe better and still reasonably priced barrels?

My first centerfire rifle was a Winchester M94 that I got back in 1961. I still have it, along with a scoped Marlin M336 in 32 Special. I will be keeping both of them. :D
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#36 Post by gamekeeper » Thu Sep 19, 2019 11:57 am

These are the only .32s I possess... :oops: :cry:
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#37 Post by 2ndovc » Thu Sep 19, 2019 1:17 pm

At Ray's request;

I picked up this cool little Beretta 81 last week. It's a former Italian prison system pistol. For less than $ 200.00 I thought it would make a
good nightstand pistol for Bubbles. She's not a big fan of firearms, but understands the reasons for having one. Or more! :D

I ran through a couple of boxes shooting at @ 20 yards offhand. Little bugger is just plain fun. Very little recoil and not all that loud.
Tough part is finding spare magazines. They dried up pretty quickly.
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I've always been fond of the .32s! The second Winchester I ever bought is a Model '92 in .32WCF, I added a SRC about a year later. The .32-20 is what got me into reloading years ago. Just did not exist around here in those days.

I have a 94 in 32Spl that I actually prefer it over my .30-30s. It's a great shooter. Really like my Single Seven in .327 Federal, it's a hoot!

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#38 Post by Ray » Thu Sep 19, 2019 6:53 pm

Jason, you sure hit the nail square when you mentioned the scarcity of 81 mags.

In looking for them I found out that the slightly more common 84 magazines will work. You have to turn the follower around backwards as the rimmed cartridge rides different than the .380 and it will only hold 9 rounds. The rim of each cartridge loaded rides in front of its predecessor 's and you run out of room, fore and aft by round eight with # nine barely squeezing in.

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