My brand new Marlin 1889 in .25-20

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My brand new Marlin 1889 in .25-20

#1 Post by Alphawolf45 » Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:20 am

Three years back I bought a nice old Marlin 1889 for $700.00...Here it is.Well no, I gave that rifle to a friend..What you see is a home shop built replication..It isnt really a Marlin but a faithful replication by Alphawolf.
I have cancer that has kept me from shooting my favorite shooting matches this year...I will survive the cancer but I jumped on finishing the Marlin 1889..The 1889 is Marlins first ever side ejecting pistol caliber rifle.Pretty awesome I think.
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#2 Post by Alphawolf45 » Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:23 am

And below the Marlin 1889 is my .22 lr replication of Marlins 1892..I have shot that one in a couple dozen matches and won a few but never really embarrassed myself.

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#3 Post by Alphawolf45 » Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:27 am

And one last picture.
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#4 Post by Alphawolf45 » Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:32 am

I must tell you that the real master of gun replications..Charlie , has gave up his machinery and moved to the Ukraine to live out his remaining days in the arms of a very nice lady....I will miss him and be happy for him..

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#5 Post by Pete44ru » Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:36 am

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Gorgeous !

You've always made wonderful self-made guns, Alphawolf - and those are no exception.

We wish you the best in your medical fight - Via 'con Dios ! . :)


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#6 Post by Bill in Oregon » Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:38 am

Alphawolf, I am simply stunned by your achievement! And what a great rifle you chose to replicate!
Wishing you the very best in your fight against the "c".
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#7 Post by earlmck » Sun Aug 12, 2018 11:12 am

I had been missing your posts Alphawolf -- but I see you have kept gainfully busy. Fantastic!
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#8 Post by AJMD429 » Sun Aug 12, 2018 12:21 pm

Awesome....!

If you don't mind, and have the time, post more about those rifles...!

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#9 Post by piller » Sun Aug 12, 2018 2:40 pm

Looks good.

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#10 Post by AJMD429 » Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:01 pm

piller wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 2:40 pm
May the move to the Ukraine bring much happiness.
"Charlie , has gave up his machinery and moved to the Ukraine to live out his remaining days in the arms of a very nice lady...."
Sounds like a winner to me....!
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#11 Post by Pete44ru » Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:37 pm

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Yep - Winner-Winner, Chicken Dinner ! . ;)


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#12 Post by Sixgun » Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:43 pm

The octagon barreled case colored 39 is the winner here. O.K.....the '89 Marlin is quite a grabber too..... :D ---6
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#13 Post by RIHMFIRE » Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:58 pm

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#14 Post by OldWin » Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:43 pm

Awesome work! I have an 89 rifle in 38-40. It's a great shooter, but I'm glad I didn't have to make it!
"Oh Bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered another round.

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#15 Post by Sixgun » Sun Aug 12, 2018 11:28 pm

OldWin wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:43 pm
Awesome work! I have an 89 rifle in 38-40. It's a great shooter, but I'm glad I didn't have to make it!
Hey, I too have an 1889 in 38-40. At least I did. Where did you get yours?

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#16 Post by OldWin » Mon Aug 13, 2018 12:35 am

Uhhh.......umm, I don't remember. I think it was a gift from a friend. :D
"Oh Bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered another round.

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#17 Post by Alphawolf45 » Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:06 am

Thought I was gonna die from the cancer but caught it quick and it is one of the easier to treat cancers..So I am good there..However while I was worrying over it and I looked at my unfinished projects, I came to realize that I had no friends to pass them to who would be able to finish one..
I also have a scratch built Sharps in .40-65 that I can finish in a few weeks time.

I also started a Spencer in .22 LR but even I cant finish it because I didnt allow enough space for a firing pin..To build a Spencer in .22 LR is very difficult but I got it to feed and shuck , just cant fire it :D :D But now I know how to start over and build it right...

I only build guns that I can use in shooting matches...I have a few Marlin 1893s parts rifles that I would like to build up for a Cowboy lever action silhouette match but NRA rules state that the barrel must be original to the rifle, but the couple original barrels I have are of a length and contour I dislike.Fortunately the match director will allow me to use any barrel I want .

And I have an authentic Marlin 1888 in .32-20 that I made new cartridge lift for it and relined the barrel.I believe that was the last model rifle Marlin built that ejects straight up..Hope to use it in a match someday.So yes I have been puttering in the shop..

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#18 Post by JerryB » Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:22 am

Glad the good Lord thinks you need to stay with us for while yet. I always look forward to your post about your projects.
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#19 Post by fordwannabe » Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:49 am

Thanks for posting those pics. Glad you’re fighting hard.
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#20 Post by OldWin » Mon Aug 13, 2018 1:17 pm

Glad you are doing well. Talent like yours shouldn't be lost.
Yes, the 1888 was the last top eject. It was replaced by the 1889 as a result of the lawsuit by Winchester.
"Oh Bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered another round.

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#21 Post by Alphawolf45 » Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:14 pm

Well oldwin... I doubt Marlin needed much encouragement to design away from the model 1888...It is a very weak design. Can you show evidence that Winchester sued Marlin over the Marlin 1888 design?? I would like to see that...The Marlin model 1888 is a terrible designed product that would have failed without Winchester suing over it.....That and I see not a single semblance to anything that Winchester ever produced.....The Marlin 1888 was produced for just one year..I am proud to have a functional example and I intend to beat a few good shooters with it in sanctioned matches..But as a piece of engineering, it is terribly lame.

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#22 Post by OldWin » Mon Aug 13, 2018 5:26 pm

Winchester tried to buy Marlin out. Mostly, because of the 1881 and its ability to handle the 45-70. It was a more compact design than the 1876 and would handle the longer cartridge.
Marlin, wisely, wouldn't sell. Patent infringement is the reason the 1881 has the sliding loading gate. Winchester owned Nelson Kings hinged loading gate patent.
Anyway, because Marlin wouldn't sell, Winchester started looking for other ways to eliminate the competition. He sued Marlin for patent infringement for the top ejection receiver. It worked in the short term. Winchester bought Brownings 1886 and got a market established before Marlin brought the 1895 to market.
While I can't give "verse and paragraph", it is an easy search. I've read it more than once in Winchester company history documentation.

Winchester undoubtedly had and purchased great designed rifles. But, just as important, they were effective and serious businessmen. They bought hundreds of designs that never saw the light of day just to keep them from the competition.
"Oh Bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered another round.

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#23 Post by 3leggedturtle » Tue Aug 14, 2018 11:49 am

Amazing, to have the talent to do that! What makes this action so weak? Todd
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#24 Post by Alphawolf45 » Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:28 am

oldwin I appreciate the enlightenment.Interesting stuff and I was unaware of all of it..

3leggedturtle The Marlin 1889 is plenty stout...It is the model 1888 that has the weakness..The cartridge lifter comes up and stays up for the shot,(it has to stay up or you would not be able to load cartridges thru the loading gate) to do so there is a slot milled through the underside of the peculiar lifter to allow the front of the lever to pass....There is so much steel milled away for the slot that it is an easy part to break.
I have another Marlin 1888 that I am slowly making parts for but it will be .44-40 and that will make the cartridge lifter even thinner and more likely to break than the .32-20 version Marlin 1888 that I have.

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#25 Post by marlinman93 » Wed Aug 15, 2018 10:05 am

Just amazing work Alphawolf! The craftsmanship and talent to reproduce those guns is well beyond my skills! Appreciate you posting them!
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#26 Post by Alphawolf45 » Wed Aug 15, 2018 4:18 pm

No ,I dont deserve the praise.I just dont quit is my one virtue.The perseverance deserves an honorable mention but that is all.
I had the idea for a while that I could replicate any firearm ever produced...Then a good friend loaned me his Broom handle mauser..I took it apart and my reaction was Ohh oh, I cant replicate this...Sobering. Reality is a vicious master.

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