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Entertaining 'gun' debate

#1 Post by AJMD429 » Sat Aug 11, 2018 2:49 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_rzNtPWFuQ

The guy debating Crowder displays all the illogic and hyperbole and distortion of the typical leftist.

The audio isn't good unfortunately.
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Re: Entertaining 'gun' debate

#2 Post by piller » Sat Aug 11, 2018 3:33 pm

Christopher Titus sounds just like most of the under 25 crowd whom I have any contact with. Thankfully, there are some who are more educated and logical. I currently have 3 under 25 coworkers who are Conservative and pro-gun. I recently taught one of them to shoot. They are all 3 responsible and reliable. A 4th one is neutral as far as guns go, and her politics are more Liberal. She is at least willing to understand that we all are allowed to have our own viewpoint. She is reliable, and self reliant, too. There is hope that she will become more of a Libertarian. I am trying to inform her of the reasons why it would work well for her. She seems to be mulling it over.
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Re: Entertaining 'gun' debate

#3 Post by FWiedner » Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:45 pm

It could have been an interesting debate. An exchange of ideas or opinions.

Instead, it was just two more guys trying to talk over each other and repeating the same things ad naseum.

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Re: Entertaining 'gun' debate

#4 Post by oldAG » Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:37 pm

AJMD429 wrote:
Sat Aug 11, 2018 2:49 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_rzNtPWFuQ
The guy debating Crowder displays all the illogic and hyperbole and distortion of the typical leftist.
The audio isn't good unfortunately.
The audio isn't good is an understatement.
Two individuals not allowing the other to have his say without being talked over.

As an Australian who hasn't had the "benefit" (?) of seeing this interviewer before, I can assure you all that Australia did not have a "buy back". What we had was a law change that required the compulsory surrender of specific types of firearms, for which a scheduled monetary value was "payed". The financing of this travesty was achieved by imposing an additional tax on all Australian taxpayers. And how did the wollopers know what should be surrendered; you got it. Registration.
To say that Australia being the equivalent of a big island and can therefore easily control the importation of firearms is way of the mark. It's because it's a place surrounded by water that the border is "porous". By the way, the population has only just hit the 25M mark. This, in an island continent that is virtually the same size as the US, excluding Alaska.
I stopped watching at that point in the video; couldn't be bothered with what appeared to a half hour of I said/You said diatribe.

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Re: Entertaining 'gun' debate

#5 Post by AJMD429 » Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:16 am

Yeah there is the reason I said 'entertaining' instead of 'informative'.....but that's because you can't ever use logic or reason with progresssssssives; they start interrupting, changing the subject, shouting, and calling names, as soon as they realize you can refute their lies and distortions with well-documented facts, and that they have no way to defend their 'position' other than trying to out virtue-signal you by insisting they somehow 'care more' than you do. If you don't just politely give in and let them 'win' at that point, just like a toddler, they get angry and have their name-calling tantrum, and call you a 'racist' or 'homophobe' or 'xenophobe' or 'misogynist', but often they also get physical, ready to throw punches or start some 'antifa' style riot and destroy property of innocent bystanders. No surprise though, since leftist/socialist types have always been more violent - look at what the Democrat-backed KKK did here in the US during the 20th Century, or for that matter the NAZI party did to the Jews. Socialism by definition requires violence, usually against whatever convenient minority has something the majority wants to take from them, even to the point of forced labor. Unlike capilalism, where ALL human interaction is by definition free and deemed fair by all participants (since all exchange is voluntary), socialism is all about materialism and exerting power over others to force them to bend to your religion, your values, and your material goals. It puts the destruction of those who you envy ahead of the helping of those you pity.

Socialism embodies everything evil that the socialists accuse the capitalists of practicing - kind of like how Barry and Hillary actually did collide with Russia, but accuse Trump of doing so, and the 'news' media and Facebook actually did try to throw the election, but accuse Russia of doing so... :lol: :roll:
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Re: Entertaining 'gun' debate

#6 Post by BlaineG » Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:42 pm

As an interesting side note:
Remember when we used say "Well gosh, I sold/lost/had stolen all my guns so there's nothing here to take"
Well, Washington is about to tighten all that up. Every single exchange of guns regardless of if you buy them at a store, or from a friend now has to be run through NICS and regisitered. And soon, it will be a felony to not report a missing gun and not having them all secured in an approved manner. If The Man can't see a destroyed gun safe, you're screwed. See how that works?
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Re: Entertaining 'gun' debate

#7 Post by Ysabel Kid » Wed Aug 15, 2018 7:37 pm

piller wrote:
Sat Aug 11, 2018 3:33 pm
Christopher Titus sounds just like most of the under 25 crowd whom I have any contact with. Thankfully, there are some who are more educated and logical. I currently have 3 under 25 coworkers who are Conservative and pro-gun. I recently taught one of them to shoot. They are all 3 responsible and reliable. A 4th one is neutral as far as guns go, and her politics are more Liberal. She is at least willing to understand that we all are allowed to have our own viewpoint. She is reliable, and self reliant, too. There is hope that she will become more of a Libertarian. I am trying to inform her of the reasons why it would work well for her. She seems to be mulling it over.
Have her check out the "walk away" movement...
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Re: Entertaining 'gun' debate

#8 Post by JB » Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:31 pm

BlaineG wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:42 pm
As an interesting side note:
Remember when we used say "Well gosh, I sold/lost/had stolen all my guns so there's nothing here to take"
Well, Washington is about to tighten all that up. Every single exchange of guns regardless of if you buy them at a store, or from a friend now has to be run through NICS and regisitered. And soon, it will be a felony to not report a missing gun and not having them all secured in an approved manner. If The Man can't see a destroyed gun safe, you're screwed. See how that works?
I know FFL's who've been pushing for this for years. In their eyes it's just additional transfer fees for them. I think they're failing to consider the long term picture.

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Re: Entertaining 'gun' debate

#9 Post by gamekeeper » Fri Aug 17, 2018 1:40 am

BlaineG wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:42 pm
As an interesting side note:
Remember when we used say "Well gosh, I sold/lost/had stolen all my guns so there's nothing here to take"
Well, Washington is about to tighten all that up. Every single exchange of guns regardless of if you buy them at a store, or from a friend now has to be run through NICS and regisitered. And soon, it will be a felony to not report a missing gun and not having them all secured in an approved manner. If The Man can't see a destroyed gun safe, you're screwed. See how that works?
That sounds pretty close to what we have in the UK..... :x
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