Five Innovative Rifles

[AJMD429]

I like the IraqVeteran8888 videos, and this one is typical - https://youtu.be/Gqw99bi9mVk

The picks are hard to argue with:

• Henry 44 levergun - Benjamin Tyler Henry in 1860
  Mauser 98 - Paul Mauser in 1895
  Grand M1 - John Garand in 1930
  AK-47 - Mikhail Kalashnikov in 1946
  AR-15* - Eugene Stoner in 1955
  Barrett Light-Fifty - Ronnie Barrett in 1989

Sadly no Browning designs included...

* the AR-15 was named rather than the AR-10 or M-16, in that the 'civilian' model was what truly revolutionized the 'modern sporting rifle' for the U.S.

There are lots of pre-cartridge guns that were innovative and transformational, but these do a pretty good job of covering the cartridge-firing rifles.

What modern rifle(s) would you add...???

[Griff]

Sadly no Browning designs included...
What modern rifle(s) would you add...???

Probably because he doesn't know any better! And from a purely military perspective, he's quite correct.

The 1894 Winchester would certainly be on my list. A design departure that has yet to be improved upon.

[GunnyMack]

I don't care what anybody says- John Browning was a firearms GUNIUS! He designed more guns,better guns. If memory serves, he heard about military trial ,72 hours later he showed up with a working BAR and the rest is history. Or something along those lines...

[Pete44ru]

Sadly no Browning designs included...

What modern rifle(s) would you add...???

Probably because he doesn't know any better!

And, from a purely military perspective, he's quite correct.

The 1894 Winchester would certainly be on my list.

Definitely a military mindset, there ..............

FWIW (off the top of my head):

* John Browning - the .45ACP auto-loading pistol and the auto-loading shotgun (among many other innovative designs), both introduced in 1905.

* Samuel Colt - the revolving pistol, in 1836.

* Hiram Maxim - the very first machinegun, in 1884.

* Bill Ruger - an innovative & inexpensive (compared to the competition) .22 auto-loading pistol in 1949, after an earlier failure to achieve commercial success with a CF auto-loading rifle (a conversion of a Savage 99).


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* Wile E. Coyote - the Acme ICBM, in 1949.....






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[Sixgun]

That list is hard to argue with. Most are major improvements on existing designs except the Garand and the AR.

In my opinion, no other gun came from so far as to "thinking out of the box" than the AR, especiallly with materials used.

The Barrett is cool but in reality it's a specialty weapon and there's lots of them out there.---6

[M. M. Wright]

The list, mostly military, leaves out the FN FAL which became the battle rifle for 60 or so countries. The US chose the M-14 over it for mostly political reasons. I would contend that the FAL ranks right along side the AK-47 but is in a much better caliber. (7.62x51 or 308 Win)

The UK fought in the Fauklands with their version of the FAL (inch pattern) against the same rifle in metric form.

The rest of the world knows the FAL well but we tend to ignore it here.
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[marlinman93]

Not just a military mindset, but I assume he's only looking at rifles. Had a pistol list been made it would have to have the 1911 on it.
But I'd guess he listed the 98 Mauser, rather than Mauser's earlier bolt action design simply because there's so many 98 Mausers. But I'd argue Mauser's 1871 bolt action was the real star as the gun that truly changed things for all later bolt action designs.

[Pete44ru]

. But I'd argue Mauser's 1871 bolt action was the real star as the gun that truly changed things for all later bolt action designs.

+1

It's not the machine (firearm), it's the man behind the machine - John Browning, Sam Colt, Paul Mauser, Hiram Maxim, Bill Ruger, etc, etc, etc.


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[Mainehunter]

What no Savage 99!

Mainehunter

[tman]

I like the IraqVeteran8888 videos, and this one is typical - https://youtu.be/Gqw99bi9mVk

The picks are hard to argue with:

• Henry 44 levergun - Benjamin Tyler Henry in 1860
  Mauser 98 - Paul Mauser in 1895
  Grand M1 - John Garand in 1930
  AK-47 - Mikhail Kalashnikov in 1946
  AR-15* - Eugene Stoner in 1955
  Barrett Light-Fifty - Ronnie Barrett in 1989

Sadly no Browning designs included...

* the AR-15 was named rather than the AR-10 or M-16, in that the 'civilian' model was what truly revolutionized the 'modern sporting rifle' for the U.S.

There are lots of pre-cartridge guns that were innovative and transformational, but these do a pretty good job of covering the cartridge-firing rifles.

What modern rifle(s) would you add...???

Pretty good list. Gotta ad the Winchester 94 , especially with it's variety of calibers. 25-35 thru 450 Marlin, with perhaps the .356 WCF being the most all around useful.

[marlinman93]

What no Savage 99!

Mainehunter

Very good point! Truly an innovative design with it's rotary magazine, and no external hammer.

[Ben_Rumson]

+1 He made a repeating falling block.

[mohavesam]

What ITH is the chubbo on the right wearing???

That sure isn't the US flag! Is it some kind of protest or something?
Certainly not a Vet not a Scout would wear that rag. Umm...twelve stripes and the "field" is not even over the heart!
Must be a protester/detester of Ol' Glory? Maybe he just found it at the car wash?
Remember also: a shirt without a collar is just underwear! Dressed to impress?

Well wife#1 always says I expect too much.

On the plus side, at least they got some history on the .276 Pederson correct...