Lookee - a levergun in 460 S&W is now available...

[AJMD429]

http://www.bighornarmory.com/catalog/bi ... 0-sandw-6/


http://www.bighornarmory.com/catalog/bi ... 0-sandw-5/

If these are as well made as my 500 S&W, they will be a hit.

[7.62 Precision]

Nice!

[JohndeFresno]

Does that mean that it will effectively handle standard .45 Colt loads?

[harry]

Does that mean that it will effectively handle standard .45 Colt loads?

Why?
You could just buy a winchester or rossi to do that.

[hfcable]

if it would handle 45 colt, 454 , and 460 could be quite versatile.

[Buck Elliott]

Depends on the function of the cartridge stop at the magazine...

[JohndeFresno]

if it would handle 45 colt, 454 , and 460 could be quite versatile.

Yep.
One gun instead of two or three: cheaper practice; more ammo options; and so on.
Compare to .357's and .38's in another levergun.

Then, there is the option of using certain handgun ammo choices, in the three calibers mentioned. A substantial power range.

[Blaine]

If I were to spend that kind of money on a lever, it would be the .500

[octagon]

I wish I had something around here to hunt that required that much gun.

[AJMD429]

Depends on the function of the cartridge stop at the magazine...

Yep. Not a huge difference between 38 Special/44 Special and 357 Mag/44 Mag, & even some of those guns hiccup if you try to switch cartridges. Now look at the length of a 460 S&W vs. the shorter 45's.

[J Miller]

If the chamber is as tight as those on the S&W 460 revolver I fired several years ago it might be disadvantageous to shoot the shorter cartridges in it.
After firing 45 Colts and 454 Casulls the longer 460 cartridges were harder to chamber.

.45C-.454Casuall-460S&WMag.jpg

Being a fan of the .45 Caliber cartridges this rifle intrigues me. I wouldn't mind messing with one.
But why in the world do they always make them with pistol grip stocks? To me there is no benefit to them and they are very uncomfortable to hold.

I didn't look at the price, I couldn't afford it anyway >

Joe

[gundownunder]

I just looked at the price, I'd hate to think what they would sell for here in Oz.

[7.62 Precision]

But why in the world do they always make them with pistol grip stocks? To me there is no benefit to them and they are very uncomfortable to hold.

I like pistol grip stocks if they are designed right. In leverguns they are sometimes not. But the stock on a Winchester 71, for example, is well designd and very comfortable.

I also like .45 caliber rifles, and I like these, but on the practical side, when considering price, I would have to go with an 1886 in the .458 diameter .45-70 (since I already have one ).

If i did not have an '86, I would consider this, but the .50 caliber version is a little more interesting to me.

I am guessing that recoil is a bit lighter than a .45-70, and if it did handle the shorter .45 Colt, people would appreciate that versatility.

[JohndeFresno]

...

OK, looking at the cartridge sizes above, and even if I had the ca$h, I don't think I'd want to fiddle with a levergun in this caliber, since there are no grizzlies in my Central California city. I see too many potential misfeeds, since I would only be interested in "Ruger Only" .45 Colt (to go with my Blackhawk) and possibly .454 loads for superior midrange power over a .30-30 levergun.

Not that I'd need it, but then again my friends are moving on to glory by the droves, the world has gotten way too serious, and a guy's gotta have fun before he leaves this pale.

[Sixgun]

While cool, I have always preferred "old School". I'd rather spend 3 g's and collect 4-8% a year and enjoy them at the same time. Then one day just walk in the Timonium show and collect cash with no taxes for the ones with their hands out.

There's just something about walking the woods with an original '86.-----6

[7.62 Precision]

While cool, I have always preferred "old School". I'd rather spend 3 g's and collect 4-8% a year and enjoy them at the same time. Then one day just walk in the Timonium show and collect cash with no taxes for the ones with their hands out.

There's just something about walking the woods with an original '86.-----6

I lean this way as well.

[AJMD429]

There's just something about walking the woods with an original '86.-----6

Once I learn enough to know a good-buy vs. a wreck, I plan on doing the same.

For now, however, my "old tymes" woods-walking levergun is the Marlin 1889 in 32-20 (which is probably a more appropriate caliber/gun for my neck of the woods vs. a 45-70 or whatever) that belonged to my Great Grandfather (with my Grandma in picture below, taken on our property around 1890, about 500 feet from where my house now sits). That 'nostalgic' feeling is indescribable - being in the same woods, under many of the same trees, as he was 120 years ago, with the very same gun... Makes me wish I could talk to him, or even Grandma - but both died long before I was born.

[Sixgun]

Doc,
That is a very, very cool picture, with super history beyond it. But in reality, those folks from a bygone era struggled more than we have. They may have had a few fine days here and there but people today seem to get that everyday. One thing for sure, while they worked harder, there was less stress.

We don't need our guns anymore to survive....well, 2 footed predators excepted..........

Sure would be neat to know all of the stuff your grandpappy did with your 1889.

Anytime you ever feel the need to buy an original 1886......or anything antique, you have my contact info. You will not pay anymore than it's worth, and most likely less......plus, it will be a shooter with no headaches.-------6

Hey...upon thinking........you say the pic was taken around 1890....well, your grandappy must have been well-to-do as he had himself a brand new Marlin which was not easy back in the day....

[plowboy 45]

Nice picture DOC
They musta been watchin someone coming up the road, path or lane which ever, there both lookin at the same thing anyway

Thanks for the pic
PLOWBOY

[Blaine]

There's just something about walking the woods with an original '86.-----6

Once I learn enough to know a good-buy vs. a wreck, I plan on doing the same.

For now, however, my "old tymes" woods-walking levergun is the Marlin 1889 in 32-20 (which is probably a more appropriate caliber/gun for my neck of the woods vs. a 45-70 or whatever) that belonged to my Great Grandfather (with my Grandma in picture below, taken on our property around 1890, about 500 feet from where my house now sits). That 'nostalgic' feeling is indescribable - being in the same woods, under many of the same trees, as he was 120 years ago, with the very same gun... Makes me wish I could talk to him, or even Grandma - but both died long before I was born.

Separate tents? Really?

[plowboy 45]

Maybe they couldn't afford kids just that minute, he had just went out and bought that new marlin

[AJMD429]

Separate tents? Really?

I believe they were a prim-and-proper bunch, from the photos I've seen of Grandma...



Plus, Great-Grandma might have wanted some privacy with Great-Grandpa, assuming she may have been on the outing as well.

[plowboy 45]

Now the river explains them 3 boat paddles in the 1st pic

[plowboy 45]

Was the 1st pic beginning of a homestead, or a campin trip
I don't figure there was much recreational campin back then

[AJMD429]

Was the 1st pic beginning of a homestead, or a campin trip
I don't figure there was much recreational campin back then

Before Grandma & her husband bought the place I now live, she and her dad would come there and camp and hunt and fish. He was a Civil War vet. They camped mostly but would occasionally rent a room in the home of the lady who owned the place back then. I don't know how they wound up picking our place to go to; it's just fairly ordinary Midwestern ground. Probably whatever a couple day's travel could get them to from Indianapolis, but I'm not even sure if that's where they lived.

They sometimes must have had bunches of friends there as well; how I'd love to know who most of these people are. . . look at some of those faces up close; they look like each one would have a tale to tell, for sure...!

[harry]

There's just something about walking the woods with an original '86.-----6

Once I learn enough to know a good-buy vs. a wreck, I plan on doing the same.

For now, however, my "old tymes" woods-walking levergun is the Marlin 1889 in 32-20 (which is probably a more appropriate caliber/gun for my neck of the woods vs. a 45-70 or whatever) that belonged to my Great Grandfather (with my Grandma in picture below, taken on our property around 1890, about 500 feet from where my house now sits). That 'nostalgic' feeling is indescribable - being in the same woods, under many of the same trees, as he was 120 years ago, with the very same gun... Makes me wish I could talk to him, or even Grandma - but both died long before I was born.

Separate tents? Really?

No, you don't cook or store food where you sleep.

[Sixgun]

Doc,
NOW I know how your family got the bucks ($). The cat up front with the straw hat on is definitely a moonshiner.

I can see it now on the label .......DOC'S ELIXIR......guaranteed to make you feel better. ---6