trade

Mescalero · Post by **Mescalero** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 11:56 am

Years ago I gave a friend a Enfield jungle carbine in really good shape, aftermarket stock; for his birthday.
He just called from N.M.
He wants to give me back the carbine for my 1946 Willys.
What think you?
I have 4 other 4 wheel drive vehicles.
5 if you count the Suzuki Eiger.
What think the members?

JerryB · Post by **JerryB** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 12:10 pm

What ever you do, just be alright with in your heart's mind and feel good about it.

Blaine · Post by **Blaine** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 12:14 pm

If the Jeep is in decent shape, $$-wise, you are not ahead. But, perhaps that is not an issue?

Mescalero · Post by **Mescalero** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 12:21 pm

Not so much, the others are a LOT more comfortable in the winter.

Blaine · Post by **Blaine** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 12:45 pm

Mescalero wrote:Not so much, the others are a LOT more comfortable in the winter.

Yeah, those 70 degree NM winters are he!!

Mescalero · Post by **Mescalero** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 1:08 pm

I am at 7,200 feet.

Blaine · Post by **Blaine** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 1:11 pm

Mescalero wrote:I am at 7,200 feet.

Just kidding....Last year, in October when I was driving across the desert SW, I froze my tookus off in NV, NM, AZ, and eastern CA.....Finally had to buy an electric blanket for the van.....

Mescalero · Post by **Mescalero** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 1:13 pm

It's ok when the sun is out, once the sun goes down the cold creeps in.

OldWin · Post by **OldWin** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 1:18 pm

If the Willys has ANY condition and runs, I wouldn't do it. Early Jeeps are getting up there in value.

cas · Post by **cas** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 1:32 pm

Sentimental value aside, what's a sporterized Enfield worth? Not a whole heck of a lot.

Even if it's an immobile pile of rust the jeeps got to be worth a while lot more.

FWiedner · Post by **FWiedner** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 1:33 pm

You've not provided a lot of information, but on the face it doesn't seem like an equitable trade.

Personally, I'd have to say no.

92&94 · Post by **92&94** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 1:40 pm

Pretty uneven trade... but then if you want to do your friend a favor, that doesn't matter

Mescalero · Post by **Mescalero** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 2:05 pm

I think I did him a favor when I gave him the rifle.

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 2:43 pm

From my own perspective, I would have to weigh the relative likelihood of my future needs/want... I.e.: if I keep the Willys, how much am I going to pay for an Enfield carbine, vs. how much will a 1946 Willys jeep cost if I make the trade.

For me, it's a no-brainer... I'd keep the Willys...

Mescalero · Post by **Mescalero** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 2:50 pm

I will never find another.

Post by **Old Savage** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:10 pm

Trade a gift back???? I'm tired of your rifle; think I would rather have your Jeep.

JerryB · Post by **JerryB** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:15 pm

Looks like you know the answer.

Mescalero · Post by **Mescalero** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:21 pm

OS,
I thought I was the only one bothered by that

Blaine · Post by **Blaine** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:32 pm

Mescalero wrote:OS,
I thought I was the only one bothered by that

I didn't want to mention it....He might have been your Godfather, or something

Mescalero · Post by **Mescalero** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:47 pm

There is a lot of that goes on, but my family is real small; so not with us.
My half brother and myself the only ones left.

Grizz · Post by **Grizz** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:50 pm

Mescalero wrote:I will never find another.

just answered your question

next question

will you ever need / want another?

I agree with the guys, not a good trade stuff-wise, would still be a good deal tho for your friend, if that's a consideration. plus you don't have to work on it if you trade it off. or do you?

Mescalero · Post by **Mescalero** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:54 pm

No.
It does not need work.

Post by **Old Savage** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:27 pm

Tell you what, I will trade you the 4" 1950 Target Model that 6 was going to send me before his cat bought it

for your 1946 Jeep, and .... Could you drive it over. Buy you a beer

Mescalero · Post by **Mescalero** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 6:37 pm

OK,
but I am leery,
That Six, he is a shady one.

Sixgun · Post by **Sixgun** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 6:54 pm

Mescaline,
Is your last name "Kowalski"? Your buddy has the biggest set of nuts I have ever seen and coming from the East, I've seen my share.

Like antique Winchesters, old Jeeps have value, running or not. They don't make many of the drivetrain parts anymore and yes, those babies are in demand.

But.....being a capitalist, always looking to make money, my thinking may not be in line with your buddy. If he is a good guy and you see him often, give it to him.......after quizzing him why he wants it.

Hey! I still have my 8th grade lunch money.

Whoa....whoa....whoa...there, my friend from the southwest.......I thought that old Jeep had my name on it......

-----6

Mescalero · Post by **Mescalero** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 7:05 pm

You said you was going to steal it!

Mescalero · Post by **Mescalero** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 7:06 pm

And NO!
It is not Kowalski.

Sixgun · Post by **Sixgun** » Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:07 am

Mescalero wrote:And NO!
It is not Kowalski.

Mescalero · Post by **Mescalero** » Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:16 am

Post by **Hobie** » Tue Apr 22, 2014 3:08 pm

Old Savage wrote:Trade a gift back???? I'm tired of your rifle; think I would rather have your Jeep.

That was my thought exactly.

Rusty · Post by **Rusty** » Tue Apr 22, 2014 3:18 pm

Hobie wrote:
Old Savage wrote:Trade a gift back???? I'm tired of your rifle; think I would rather have your Jeep.
That was my thought exactly.

+1

Some friend.

Mescalero · Post by **Mescalero** » Tue Apr 22, 2014 3:25 pm

He just did manage to graduate the sixth grade.
In the rural southwest there are many stories of this type of thing.
I learned how to vapor barrier a house from a man who could sign his name, but that was it.
Anything more complicated and I had to read it to him.
I am not making excuses for his behavior, but I doubt he knows this is inappropiate.

Mescalero · Post by **Mescalero** » Tue Apr 22, 2014 3:32 pm

This type of thing is not all that unusual.
Some of you may remember the post I made about one of the residents who wanted me to shoot a wild hog, butcher it, put it in my freezer, and make it available to him as needed.
I did not do it.
Also every year I will get at least two requests for me to loan one of my 4 wheel drive vehicles to a person I really do not know.
They come to the mountains unprepared, and when they find the passenger car does not work well on snowy, icy roads; they want me to provide transportation.

Nate Kiowa Jones · Post by **Nate Kiowa Jones** » Tue Apr 22, 2014 3:46 pm

The average 70% Enfield jungle carbine goes for anywhere from $400 to $550. I'm thinking that jeep is woth more than that in just parts.

Mescalero · Post by **Mescalero** » Tue Apr 22, 2014 3:49 pm

It is in better shape than that, but I am not going to do it.

3leggedturtle · Post by **3leggedturtle** » Tue Apr 22, 2014 3:51 pm

Mescalero wrote:This type of thing is not all that unusual.
Some of you may remember the post I made about one of the residents who wanted me to shoot a wild hog, butcher it, put it in my freezer, and make it available to him as needed.
I did not do it.
Also every year I will get at least two requests for me to loan one of my 4 wheel drive vehicles to a person I really do not know.
They come to the mountains unprepared, and when they find the passenger car does not work well on snowy, icy roads; they want me to provide transportation.

If I bicycled out there this winter you wouldn't be my chauffeur and or chef?

Mescalero · Post by **Mescalero** » Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:06 pm

I will have to decline your request.

jazman · Post by **jazman** » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:59 pm

Old Savage wrote:Trade a gift back???? I'm tired of your rifle; think I would rather have your Jeep.

I was sure thinking this too.

92&94 · Post by **92&94** » Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:54 am

Old Savage wrote:Tell you what, I will trade you the 4" 1950 Target Model that 6 was going to send me before his cat bought it for your 1946 Jeep, and .... Could you drive it over. Buy you a beer

I can do better than that...

Trade ya an SKS with a Tapco stock, buy you two beers. The reason it's such a good offer is that I live a lot closer

I can even lend you my Horrible Old Truck to drive home.... gets 5 mpg and has 9x20 bias plies on split rims

Mescalero · Post by **Mescalero** » Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:05 am

now that's a truck!

JB · Post by JB » Fri Apr 25, 2014 10:13 am

Nate Kiowa Jones wrote:The average 70% Enfield jungle carbine goes for anywhere from $400 to $550. I'm thinking that jeep is woth more than that in just parts.

The aftermarket stock pretty much killed any collectors value. Of course that's assuming it's an actual jungle carbine and not a Navy Arms, Gibbs, or another company's "imitation" jungle carbine.

Paladin · Post by **Paladin** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 4:45 pm

Mescalero wrote:It is in better shape than that, but I am not going to do it.

If you just want a Enfield I know where there is a stash, I can pick one up for you.

92&94 · Post by **92&94** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 5:41 pm

Mescalero wrote: now that's a truck!

Yeah, and every time I take it out on the road, I'm sure to find the one truck in the county that is slower than mine!

Mescalero · Post by **Mescalero** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 5:47 pm

seems about right.

horsesoldier03 · Post by **horsesoldier03** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 6:25 pm

The whole trade back a gift thing would annoy me as well. I am also typically a little more reserved on letting my FRIENDS solicit gifts from me! I sold and old Flat Fender Willys jeep for my brother on craigslist a few years back. He was going to let it go for $300 and I ended up getting him $800 and it was a rolling chasis with parts. He was at least nice enough to take me to lunch!

He is definitely not talking an even trade here! I would probably tell him, I only gave $100 for the rifle to begin with, I NEED SOME BOOT MONEY!

Mescalero · Post by **Mescalero** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 6:29 pm

I really don't want to get rid of the Willy's.

Blaine · Post by **Blaine** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 6:48 pm

I say Rosie O'Donnel once and got Willys......

Mescalero · Post by **Mescalero** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 8:16 pm

Every time I see her,I get these cold shivers down my spine.
Like there is a great disturbance in the force.

horsesoldier03 · Post by **horsesoldier03** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 8:38 pm

I bet there are a lot more Jungle Carbines in this world than there are '46 Willy Jeeps! I'd keep it!

Mescalero · Post by **Mescalero** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 8:44 pm

I believe that is a true and correct statement.