Picked up a NOS Winchester 92 rifle

Les Staley · Post by **Les Staley** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:16 pm

at gunshow in Rock Springs Wyoming this weekend. New in red box marked "Winchester licensee U.S. Repeating Arms Co., New Haven Ct U.S.A. made in Japan Cal 45 Colt engraved scene left side receiver,, two deer .. right side one antelope.. no tang safety, regular hammer with half cock, not rebounding.. 24" round barrel, crescent buttplate, gold trigger.. Shot it for the first time this evening. some pistol loads I had around, clover leafing at 65 yds.. some in the same hole.. guess I got a good one.. Les

sore shoulder · Post by **sore shoulder** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:22 pm

Good for you, sounds like a really nice rifle all the way around.

Post by **Ysabel Kid** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:39 pm

Welcome aboard and congrats - sounds wonderful! Pictures - please!!!

Nate Kiowa Jones · Post by **Nate Kiowa Jones** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:18 pm

Ysabel Kid wrote:Welcome aboard and congrats - sounds wonderful! Pictures - please!!!

Yes, pictures please. I didn't know they ever made them like that. I'm wondering if it's a conversion. pictures pictures.

If you don't have them hosted send them to my email and I'll do it.

Email; steve@stevesgunz.com

Nate Kiowa Jones · Post by **Nate Kiowa Jones** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:20 pm

BTW, Howdy and welcome to the fire.

Grizzly Adams · Post by **Grizzly Adams** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:35 pm

Yes, pics please! I have never seen one like you have described. Nice find!

Les Staley · Post by **Les Staley** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:44 pm

okay,, okay... but it will have to be tomorrow evening after work.. I'll have to get the wife to load some on my computer.. I belive it is made by the same company that made my Browning 86 Saddle Ring Carbine. some of the same letters on some internal parts.. Les

Jaguarundi · Post by **Jaguarundi** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:57 pm

Ysabel Kid wrote:Welcome aboard and congrats - sounds wonderful! Pictures - please!!!

+1!

Nate Kiowa Jones · Post by **Nate Kiowa Jones** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 1:21 am

Les Staley wrote:okay,, okay... but it will have to be tomorrow evening after work.. I'll have to get the wife to load some on my computer.. I belive it is made by the same company that made my Browning 86 Saddle Ring Carbine. some of the same letters on some internal parts.. Les

Cool,
And yes, if it is one of the japanese made guns it will be made by Miruko, the same folks that made the Brownings. If it is configured as you say and is not a conversion you have a rare bird.

Pete44ru · Post by **Pete44ru** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 7:58 am

I've only seen a few, myself - very nice, indeed.

http://www.collectorsfirearms.com/admin ... emID=20350

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... m=96281239

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... m=95286302

Hagler · Post by **Hagler** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 11:11 am

Pete44ru,

What Les is talking about is a Winchester-branded Japanese gun without a safety button or slide, and with a half-cock hammer. There could be others out there, but, usually, the new Winchesters have added "safety features".

Shawn

Post by **Hobie** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 11:22 am

Great to hear from you Les and on such a neat subject! Can't wait for the pics. This gives me heart to look for those fabled guns...

Les Staley · Post by **Les Staley** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 5:50 pm

Steve, pictures are on the way.. let me know if you get 'em.. also includeing a picture of a Lion I killed in November 07.. Pete44ru: the first one you show is like mine, but mine has a little blued filler (factory done, I'm sure) in the tang where the safety would have been.. It is equal quality of the rest of the rifle.. gun has not been fired.. till last night..(took the kitty cat with a Puma 454, figured it was appropriate.)

Pete44ru · Post by **Pete44ru** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 6:06 pm

Like a lot of us, I "jones'd" over one, when I first came across it - but didn't have the scratch.

Sixgun · Post by **Sixgun** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 7:22 pm

Les, my son, who lives in Colorado has been searching for one of those. May I ask what you paid for it? Over a thou.? Man, I remember they were 5 c-notes when they first came out and most of us just sneared at 'em.-------------Sixgun

Les Staley · Post by **Les Staley** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 7:51 pm

Sixgun: The fellow had it and a 73 Uberti on his table along with some other stuff and this Winchester 1892... he wanted $895... talked him down to $840. I had just sold a couple of rifles, a Poly Tech M14S with a usgi bolt conversion for $1400 so I had a little extra and found a nice 1950 Winchester 1897 for $600.. got it too!! Les

Sixgun · Post by **Sixgun** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:05 pm

Les Staley wrote:Sixgun: The fellow had it and a 73 Uberti on his table along with some other stuff and this Winchester 1892... he wanted $895... talked him down to $840. I had just sold a couple of rifles, a Poly Tech M14S with a usgi bolt conversion for $1400 so I had a little extra and found a nice 1950 Winchester 1897 for $600.. got it too!! Les

Les, good snag and its great to see you like most of us here---addicted to Winchesters. (leverguns and classics in general

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Nate Kiowa Jones · Post by **Nate Kiowa Jones** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:34 pm

Hi Les,
Here's your gun. It's one of the Miruko made Wins that someone has converted.
O Man, for awhile there i thought somebody slipped one by the liability lawyer there at winchester. That would be like a mis-stuck $5 gold piece.

They did a good job plugging the hole. Looks like the rebound hammer was used. Does it now have a 1/4 cock notch?

Here's your dead kitty

Les Staley · Post by **Les Staley** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 9:27 pm

Thanks for posting those pictures, Steve. There are only two positions on the hammer, half cock and full cock.. maybe a replacement? Yeah, nice job of plugging the hole.. sure fooled me! This rifle really groups tightly at 65 yds, most clip the same hole. Action is much tighter than my Rossi Pumas.. needs to be shot a little.. Les

Nate Kiowa Jones · Post by **Nate Kiowa Jones** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 9:50 pm

Les Staley wrote:Thanks for posting those pictures, Steve. There are only two positions on the hammer, half cock and full cock.. maybe a replacement? Yeah, nice job of plugging the hole.. sure fooled me! This rifle really groups tightly at 65 yds, most clip the same hole. Action is much tighter than my Rossi Pumas.. needs to be shot a little.. Les

I don't think it's a repacement. See that arched cutout there on the bottom. If it has two postiion whether you call it 1/4 or 1/5 it sounds like it was welded up and a second notch cut. I just use the Rossi hammer and trigger, but I'm not that good of a welder either.

Jaguarundi · Post by **Jaguarundi** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:22 am

Les Staley,that is a nice rifle

!Nate-thanks for posting the pics.

Jay Bird · Post by **Jay Bird** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:13 pm

Could you please tell me what kind of bullet you used in your 92. Just pick one up and wonder if a SWC will feed. Do you think RN only will work. THANKS

Les Staley · Post by **Les Staley** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 8:39 pm

Sixgun Jr: the bullets I have on hand are Hornady 250gr XTP stock #45200. They seem to feed fine crimped in the canuler. Steve: when I take it apart sometime I'll look at the hammer to see if it is welded up. It rests completely on the bolt and fireing pin, no rebound. If someone did this, they did a nice job.. trigger pull is wonderful, light and crisp. Les

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:22 pm

Sixgun jr wrote:Could you please tell me what kind of bullet you used in your 92. Just pick one up and wonder if a SWC will feed. Do you think RN only will work. THANKS

RNs are not the only shape that will work. I use truncated cones and round, flat nose shapes in mine. The width of the meplat will determine whether a particular SWC will feed. Due to the angle of the riser (lifter) the round needs to overcome the crown (for lack of a better word) at the base of the chamber. Depending on the round's overall length, width of the meplat and that camming over action necessary to transition the cartridge from the angle to flatly enter the chamber, the nose can get jammed against the roof of the chamber. Someone the other day posted a diagram of the mechanics, but I didn't trouble myself to search for it. (Responding to a similar question). I have some 250 grain SWCs that seem to feed fine thru mine, but in another, similar rifle (not mine) they don't. So, my definitive answer is: Maybe?

Nate Kiowa Jones · Post by **Nate Kiowa Jones** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:49 pm

Griff wrote:
Sixgun jr wrote:Could you please tell me what kind of bullet you used in your 92. ................................................................................................................... I have some 250 grain SWCs that seem to feed fine thru mine, but in another, similar rifle (not mine) they don't. So, my definitive answer is: Maybe?

Boy aint that the truth. no two guns are alike. When guns are made, the maker has a nominal size for each and ever parts that goes into the gun. But they will accept a part that is plus or minus a few thousands. Once all these various parts are assemble every gun will be slightly different. This is called stackup.
I have had consecutive serial numbered guns here. One would run even on empty brass, the other would not run on anything without some tweeking.

Malamute · Post by **Malamute** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:23 pm

May be a Browning 92 hammer. I got one for my 92 to convert it, as well as the mainspring parts.

Nate Kiowa Jones · Post by **Nate Kiowa Jones** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 1:00 am

Malamute wrote:May be a Browning 92 hammer. I got one for my 92 to convert it, as well as the mainspring parts.

You know, I bet it is. The B92 hammer had that cutout too.

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