LC Smith 10 gauge

6pt-sika · Post by **6pt-sika** » Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:11 pm

Picked up an LC Smith 10 gauge today !
Gun was made in 1890 and is steel twist . Thirty inch barrels modified and modified . Overall it needs a good cleaning , but all in all I think it's a shooter !

jeepnik · Post by **jeepnik** » Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:01 pm

Is "Twist Steel" the same as Damascus? Is this a black powder only gun? And, let us know about recoil. Even though the thing looks plenty heavy, I've got to wonder about the old equal and opposite reaction thing.

6pt-sika · Post by **6pt-sika** » Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:27 pm

jeepnik wrote:Is "Twist Steel" the same as Damascus? Is this a black powder only gun? And, let us know about recoil. Even though the thing looks plenty heavy, I've got to wonder about the old equal and opposite reaction thing.

Twist steel and damascus are similar .

If I deem them safe to shoot I DO NOT shoot black in them . I use a SR7625 load in my W&C Scott which IS damascus .

Recoil is negligible in my W&C so I see no reason it would be any worse in this . My regular load is 1 1/4 ounce of shot at a speed of about 1050-1100 FPS .

Now all I need is a nice Parker hammerless damascus 10 gauge and I'll have all (actually more) then I need !

Sixgun · Post by **Sixgun** » Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:47 pm

Those old Elsies are a work of art. IMO, the double guns from the 1890-1920 period had the finest of all craftsmanship, exceeding any levergun or single shot.

Speaking of W & C Scott guns, my bud just got one in. That too is a work of art. It has the oak leaf engraving and IIRC, hammers.......12ga.--------------6

6pt-sika · Post by **6pt-sika** » Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:37 pm

Sixgun wrote:Those old Elsies are a work of art. IMO, the double guns from the 1890-1920 period had the finest of all craftsmanship, exceeding any levergun or single shot.

Speaking of W & C Scott guns, my bud just got one in. That too is a work of art. It has the oak leaf engraving and IIRC, hammers.......12ga.--------------6

I have three W&C's !

The 10 gauge was my maternal grnadfathers and it came from one of the DuPont's of gunpowder fame !

The other two are a 12 and 20 although there was a 16 that went with them and was sold before we got them . They belonged to a Peter's of Peters Cartridge fame !

The 10 and 20 are actually back action locks while the 12 is a sidelock .

I always thought it was kinda neat that these W&C's had little glass windows so you could see if the gun was cocked rather then cocking indicators poking up on the top of the action !

ollogger · Post by **ollogger** » Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:03 pm

Im starting to like shot guns

Dang them are nice

ollogger

6pt-sika · Post by **6pt-sika** » Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:19 pm

ollogger wrote:Im starting to like shot guns
Dang them are nice

ollogger

I've spent/invested/wasted alot of money on alot of things over the years .

But I think the two most expensive collectible things I have mesed with have been shotguns and steam engines !

And thanks for the compliment !

1894c · Post by **1894c** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 12:15 am

My Grandfather and grandmother lived in Fulton, NY where the Hunter Arms Company (L.C. Smith shotguns) was located. There was two gentlemen, I think named Crouse, who lived next door, both were engravers for L.C. Smith. As a kid I remember seeing many fine examples of their engraving. My Aunt has a .410 Field-grade shotgun that these guys engraved for her when she turned 16 (late 40's), I've seen that gun twice, not sure what happened to it after her passing... :)

Nath · Post by **Nath** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 2:28 pm

Nice write up fellers....the Smith looks in good order and not messed with!

Good choking IMO too!

N.

6pt-sika · Post by **6pt-sika** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 2:48 pm

Nath wrote:Nice write up fellers....the Smith looks in good order and not messed with!

Good choking IMO too!

N.

It would be better if it were a Parker

But the guy I got this from has some other doubles I think he's going to part with . All Fox , Smith and dare I say it Parker !
So if he has a Parker hammerless 10 gauge I might know it's new home

6pt-sika · Post by **6pt-sika** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 2:51 pm

I was also "informed" by a fellow on the Parker Forum that this gun is in fact damascus and I was incorrect in saying twist .

This gun has a damascus pattern that looked more twist to me , but I defer to a more accomplished double collector then myself !

6pt-sika · Post by **6pt-sika** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 2:53 pm

I have a sneaking feeling that this Smith may very well kill a deer this coming season with my 00 Buck handloads like the W&C did about 3 years ago

Nath · Post by **Nath** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:09 pm

6pt-sika wrote:I have a sneaking feeling that this Smith may very well kill a deer this coming season with my 00 Buck handloads like the W&C did about 3 years ago

I wondered about that

N.

6pt-sika · Post by **6pt-sika** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:41 pm

Nath wrote:
6pt-sika wrote:I have a sneaking feeling that this Smith may very well kill a deer this coming season with my 00 Buck handloads like the W&C did about 3 years ago
I wondered about that

N.

Now thinking on that a bit I might try #1 Buck in this one instead of the 00 load !

6pt-sika · Post by **6pt-sika** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:44 pm

Actually I have 000 , 00 , 1 , 3 and 4 buck on hand . To be honest with the W&C and the Ithaca I actually got better patterns with #1 and #3 buck ,

Post by **Ysabel Kid** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:24 pm

Awesome! Congratulations!!!

6pt-sika · Post by **6pt-sika** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:44 pm

Earlier tonight I loaded two rounds of 00 Buck with 12 pellets , two rounds of #1 Buck with 16 pellets and finally two rounds of #3 buck with 28 pellets !

Hopefully if I can rise at 7AM I'll give them a go in the LC tommorrow !

6pt-sika · Post by **6pt-sika** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 8:29 am

Just got back from the range !

Tried a 000 and #4 Buck at 25 yards !

Well as it looks #4 , #3 , #1 , 00 and 000 Buck all shoot well enough in this gun for what I'll do with it on deer !

Now all I need is to draw an area for Chincoteague NWR !

6pt-sika · Post by **6pt-sika** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 8:34 am

From earlier !

00 , #1 and #3 Buck !

Got out to the range this morning about 8:45 and it was actually rather pleasent !

I took my new to me LC Smith 10 gauge of 1890 vintage !

All at 25 yards .

Tried 00 right barrel !

00 left barrel ,

#1 right barrel ,

#1 left barrel ,

#3 right barrel ,

#3 left barrel ,

Nath · Post by **Nath** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:04 am

That'll do it....I do like the patterns of the larger buck!

N.

Grizz · Post by **Grizz** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:38 am

00 from the left and #1 from the right looks like a good combo. If that #1 load is consistent with the vertical pattern it will be amazing. You have abt eight .30 musket balls between the spine and heart. amazing.

6pt-sika · Post by **6pt-sika** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 1:52 pm

Nath wrote:That'll do it....I do like the patterns of the larger buck!

N.

I never liked to pattern my skeet or trap guns years ago . I might have shot a paper occasionally for point of impact , but as far as counting quadrents etc I never was intrested . However since starting to mess with the buckshot I kinda do like patterns but then there's never more then 30 or so pellets in a pattern .

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