Tell me about the .350 Remington Mag...

[awp101]

I ran across something that caught my eye as a future project involving the .350 Rem Mag but what I know about the round wouldn't fill a thimble.

Could it basically be considered a short, fat, belted .35 Whelen?

Thanks!

[Old Savage]

Pretty much.

[Lassiter]

Speer Reloading Manual #14 shows the 35 Wheelan Max load of IMR 4895 w/ a 250 gr. bullet to be 49.0 gr. for a MV of 2142 fps. and the 350 Rem. Mag with a max load of 53.0 gr. of the same powder for a MV of 2353 fps. So the 350 is a bit hotter.

[Hobie]

Early form of short fat magnum cases.

[444tsgt]

I know a max load of H4895, a 200 grn hornady spire point in my model 673 smacks deer like I've never seen. A hit in any vital area will leave a blood trail Ray Charles could follow, and they never go far.

[Mescalero]

I stay away from belted mags, always.

[Old Savage]

The 35 Whelen I had would easily do 2600 fps with a 250 gr with 55 gr of 4064 - no pressure problems, slower twist 1/16" 24" barrel.

[Lastmohecken]

I have a Remington 700 classic in 350 Rem Mag. I used it a lot for 3 or 4 years on deer and coyotes with 180gr Speer soft points and 200gr Serria Roundnoses. It really was a heck of a deer smacker and shot plenty flat enough with those loads. I had a Whelen too and frankly I like the 350 better, but balistically there's not a lot of difference. I would probably use it a lot more, but I am so fond of the leveraction BLR, so it's gets more action, anymore. The .308 is really all I need, anyway, but the 350 is my favorite rifle round to handload, and very accurate, also.

[soon 2 retire]

I stay away from belted mags, always.

I know nothing about belted mags; can you give reasons to stay away? Thanks.


Bob in Friday Harbor

[Rusty]

Just a guess..."I stay away from belted mags, always."

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[Mescalero]

Yep.

[6pt-sika]

I had a 350 REM MAG on the Remington 673 and a 35 Whelen on the 700 Classic . I didn't see two cents worth difference between them .And they were both okay , but I'm not a big time 35 cal person .

Now with that being said for a medium bore semi hard hitter I would much rather have a 338-06 or maybe a 338 RCM .

[6pt-sika]

Oh FWIW I see nothing wrong with belted Mags !

Matter of fact I own and load for eight or nine of them now .

[86er]

It does what 35 Whelen can do when handloaded, but the Rem Mag creates higher pressure to get there. 200 gr Rem PSP are soft enough for whitetail and mule deer and could be used for elk or bear with some moderate self imposed limits. 225 gr Speer, Nosler AB and such are usually a bit harder and intended for elk. The 250 Nosler Partition will achieve frontal expansion on deer but retain enough of what counts to plow through an elk or bear. My ol' buddy Finn Aggard was a fan of Whelen's 35 as well as Remington's. He eventually decided on the 250 gr Nosler Partition for use on everything, from both . Same bullets and trajectory simplified things. Hey ended to keep things inthe 2200-2400 fps range but I load mine right to 2600 fps and it is my elk and bear rifle, along with similar sized critters.

[Old Savage]

Joe, Finn was one of my favorite writers, must have been interesting to know him.

[t.r.]

Ammo is very difficult to find and spendy, too!

TR

[wolfdog]

350 Rem Mag in a 673, not fun to shoot from the bench.

[65bee]

The .350 Rem. Mag. is my all-time favorite big game cartridge, bar-none. I bought my first one in 1975, a Model 700 BDL. I have since owned many 600, 660, 700 classics in the caliber. I never had one that wasn't an accurate shooter and ALWAYS performed admirably on deer,moose and bear here in northern New England. My favorite is the 600 carbine - so light and handy its unbelieveable unless you have used one. The recoil complaints made by gun writers over the years are just not valid, in my opinion, but I have never been recoil-shy. I settled long ago on 250 grain bullets for everything. As far as members who have a problem with belted cases, they are off-base. If anything, a belted case is a plus. The brass is super strong. I have never lost a .350 case in over 35 years of reloading, and many have been loaded at least ten or more times. You don't have to worry about head-space, the belt takes care of that too. Granted, its probably not a caliber for the Wyoming plains, although it does shoot pretty flat over 250 yards. I killed a 56" bull moose in 1996 at a measured 395 yards with my 700 Classic. Jeff Cooper really liked the cartridge too. He called it the 'Fire-Plug" and had it chambered in some of his famous Scout carbines.

[Nath]

I never got why it never was very popular, 35 in general even!
Don't think I have ever seen one over 'ere!
Nath.

[Old Savage]

Recoil and the 338 Win.

Friend of mine who owns a gun shop says it is said that the 30-06 is the last caliber the average shooter can do well with. He thinks it is the first they can't. Beyond that level you have the 300 Win Mag and the 338 Win Mag that rule the popularity roost. Finn Aagaard wrote if he picked two rifles to hunt North America they would be the 270 and 338 part of that may be ammo availability - conjecture on my part.

[awp101]

Thanks!

Someone on another forum mentioned they had a Japanese Type 99 rebarreled to the .350 Rem Mag. I immediately thought of a project grade 99 I could probably get for almost short money if it's still where I saw it. They've had it for over a year and the few of us that expressed interest in it told them how overpriced it was. Last time I saw it they had it much closer to reasonably priced.

Anyway, it sounds like it can be handloaded into a real short range hammer. I'll probably let the idea go since the last thing I need is another project...

OTOH, I learned more about an unfamiliar cartridge. Thanks!

[JP_TX]

Speaking to your thought that the 350 RM could be turned into a "hammer". For your consideration.

A 60grn charge of AA2520 with a 200grn spitzer, can reach 3000fps @ 4000f/lbs. (Modern Reloading 2)

A 62grn charge of RL15 with a 225grn spitzer, can reach 2800fps at similar or greater power.

Both loads fired from a Ruger 77 Mk ll with 22in barrel.

I'd say that falls into the "Hammer" category. YMMV