35-30/30 (35-30)

[getitdone1]

My computer takes a while to start-up so I grab the Cartridges Of The World book to fill the time.

It doesn't take me long to find something interesting in that book. Bet you know what I mean.

First thing that caught my eye was the 30-30 case necked-up to 35 cal. That's a neat looking cartridge. If you have this book, give it a look. Guess they used to do this to salvage worn-out 32-40 and 32 Win. barrels. They say it's nearly as powerful as the 35 Remington.

You'll find it in the Wildcat section. They say it's one of the earlier wildcats.

Don

[Terry Murbach]

YEP. IT IS ALL THAT.

[Old Savage]

Looked very interesting to me also.

[Jeff H]

I have been intrigued by that one also.

I also put my COW book in the reloading cabinet - way in the back, because it makes me daydream about things that I don't have time or money to spend on. I once started a custom '98 Mauser in .450 Marlin (because I could have a "45-70" bolt-rifle without finding a Siamese Mauser) and had 500 rounds of brass, j-word bullets, cast bullets....... One day I remembered that I probably couldn't handle the recoil from it anyway and traded the reloading components for gunsmithing and transfer fees.

COW is a dangerous book.

[Catshooter]

The .30-30's parent case (.38-55) is a very versitle one. Quite a family. The 219 Zipper, .25-35, .30-30, .32-40, .35-30. Did I miss any? That's quite a range of capabilities.

I have one of the H&R single shots with a few barrels for it. I have one in .30-30 and one in .38-55. One I really wanted was a Zipper. I bought a .223 to turn it into a Zipper and then found out that the chamber will almost clean up to a Zipper. But not quite.

A Zipper, a .30-30 and either a .35-30 or a .38-55 covers alot of ground. Thirty thirty brass is cheap and easy to find and can make all of those cartridges.


Cat

[Terry Murbach]

The .30-30's parent case (.38-55) is a very versitle one. Quite a family. The 219 Zipper, .25-35, .30-30, .32-40, .35-30. Did I miss any? That's quite a range of capabilities.

I have one of the H&R single shots with a few barrels for it. I have one in .30-30 and one in .38-55. One I really wanted was a Zipper. I bought a .223 to turn it into a Zipper and then found out that the chamber will almost clean up to a Zipper. But not quite.

A Zipper, a .30-30 and either a .35-30 or a .38-55 covers alot of ground. Thirty thirty brass is cheap and easy to find and can make all of those cartridges.


Cat

DO YOU MEAN TO SAY A 219ZIPPER IMPROVED WOULD NOT CLEAN UP A 223 CHAMBER ??? OR A 219 DONALDSON WASP ??

[El Chivo]

I made one brass case of that caliber and seated a bullet in it to check it out. A nice idea. I did full length sizing with 30-30 dies and neck sizing with 35 Rem.

I was thinking of converting a 30-30 rifle, but with a .357 bore rather than .358. Then it would shoot lead pistol bullets (.358). Others commented that a big advantage to the caliber was the use of very large, long bullets, due to the extra long neck you get.

However, it might be a false economy. My "Gunsmith Who Botches Everything" quoted me $600 for the job. Cheaper to just keep buying 30-30's.

[Poohgyrr]

I remember reading about this conversion years ago. It would be kind of neat to have an old family 30-30 that had been shot enough to need it. You'd know you got your money's worth out of that rifle.

And a 38-55 is another one I'd like to get someday.

[JerryB]

My son sent his 94 30-30 to Jess Ocompaugh to be bored to 38-55. About three weeks later it came home with a note from Jess saying "she shoot sweet", can't beat a deal like that.

[KWK]

Did I miss any?

.22 Savage and .25-36, for starters

[awp101]

My "Gunsmith Who Botches Everything" quoted me $600 for the job. Cheaper to just keep buying 30-30's.

Talk to JES Reboring and see if he can do it with the .357 bore...

[6pt-sika]

Lotta folks like this cartridge and I did a few years back as well !

Now I am of the opinion that a .33/30-30 would be more intresting .

Granted the bullet selection for such an undertaking is at best lacking !

[Catshooter]

The .30-30's parent case (.38-55) is a very versitle one. Quite a family. The 219 Zipper, .25-35, .30-30, .32-40, .35-30. Did I miss any? That's quite a range of capabilities.

I have one of the H&R single shots with a few barrels for it. I have one in .30-30 and one in .38-55. One I really wanted was a Zipper. I bought a .223 to turn it into a Zipper and then found out that the chamber will almost clean up to a Zipper. But not quite.

A Zipper, a .30-30 and either a .35-30 or a .38-55 covers alot of ground. Thirty thirty brass is cheap and easy to find and can make all of those cartridges.


Cat

DO YOU MEAN TO SAY A 219ZIPPER IMPROVED WOULD NOT CLEAN UP A 223 CHAMBER ??? OR A 219 DONALDSON WASP ??

Nope. Meant what I said, a 219 Zipper won't clean up a .223 chamber. I've seen a peice of Zipper brass fired in a chamber so attemped and it has a cute little double shoulder.

No idea what would happen if you tried an Improved or a Wasp.


Cat

[O.S.O.K.]

I would think a .357 Mag NEF Handi Rifle would be a good donor for this conversion... would do exactly what you want with a simple rechamber...

[3leggedturtle]

I had a T/C custom shop make a .38 Special 24" carbine barrel. The main thought was to rechamber to 35-30/30. But it is so accurate I cannot bring me self to rechamber it. Should of never shot it, and just sent it off.

[AJMD429]

I had a T/C custom shop make a .38 Special 24" carbine barrel. The main thought was to rechamber to 35-30/30. But it is so accurate I cannot bring me self to rechamber it. Should of never shot it, and just sent it off.

Dumb question, but if it was a 'custom shop' and they 'made' the barrel, why didn't you just have them make it in .35-30/30 from the get-go...?

[hfcable]

Did I miss any?

.22 Savage and .25-36, for starters

7x30 waters too

[3leggedturtle]

I had a T/C custom shop make a .38 Special 24" carbine barrel. The main thought was to rechamber to 35-30/30. But it is so accurate I cannot bring me self to rechamber it. Should of never shot it, and just sent it off.

Dumb question, but if it was a 'custom shop' and they 'made' the barrel, why didn't you just have them make it in .35-30/30 from the get-go...?

Because custom barels were hit and miss figured if they screwed up the 38 sp chambering i could redo it to 35=30/30. Had a 22 Hornet barrel that the chamber was so cockeyed the 223 AI barely corrected it. Plus didnt think i could live with just a 38 special for the rest of its life. But is a real nice chambering. If that makes sense