1886 in "The Edge"

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1886 in "The Edge"

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I watched "The Edge" tonight with Anthony Hopkins and Alec Baldwin. I saw this years ago and never noticed that the rifle they found in the abandoned hunting cabin was an 1886 in 45-70.
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That was why I watched it. I barely noticed the bear .. or the girl ... :lol:
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Wish I could find an abandoned cabin like that. :shock:
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I dont know this movie. I will have to check it out.
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Here's some snapshots from the film:

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Dad burn it, now I'm gona have to finde a copy of it to watch! :D
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What girl???
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That was why I watched it. I barely noticed the bear .. or the girl ... :lol:
... Yeah me too :wink:

Watched SeaBiscuit last night... There was a brief scene in which an 86 was trying to be used to destroy a horse...Love most of them Depression era type movies...Got a laugh at the commentator saying "At the time America needed a drink the most it was illegal"..
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rjohns94 wrote:What girl???
Anthony Hopkins' ol' lady:

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Elle Mcpherson.

I just watched it about a month ago. It's one of my favorite movies, mostly for the aerial views of the Alaskan mountains.
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I believe that the '86 in that movie was a .45-90, IIRC.
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Mike D. wrote:I believe that the '86 in that movie was a .45-90, IIRC.
These look like 45-70s to me:

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Alec Baldwin is a leftist flake with an ego the size of Montana. I won't watch anything he's in. The thing doesn't deserve to touch a 1886! :evil:
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Somebody beat me to the punch. I was going to say:

That may look like a .45-70, but it also looks like Alec Baldwin successfully loading/firing it, so there are no limits to Hollywood magic.
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great movie!
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Well, I agree with Mike D. I think they are 45-90s. I load and shoot both. Just my not so humble opinion.

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Take a close look at the relation of the case length to the bullet. I stand by my determination that the cartridges are not .45-70s.
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I still think they are 45-70 based on the length of the cartridge in relation to Baldwin's thumb and fingers.

I'm getting this in Blu-Ray, so maybe in hi-def I'll be able to read the head stamp on the cartridges.
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In the first pic, they look like 45-90's and the other pics they look like 45-70's. My vote goes for the 45-70. Either way, there's way too much shine on them to be the 75+ years old as they are in the two part box. The rifle looks like it just came out a nice gunsafe. No rust, no pits---all Hollywood lies.

The movie was good though--especially when the liberal dies and Hopkin's old lady see's the engraved watch. Pig--she deserves it

Funny how the black guy was expendable early on and gets eaten by the bear--then the bear gets sick and throws him up :D ------------------Sixgun
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game keeper wrote:Wish I could find an abandoned cabin like that. :shock:
Years ago a friend of mine who was out deer hunting near Silver City, found an abandoned old miner's shack that the roof and two of the walls had collapsed in on. He managed to crawl underneath it and found an old rifle leaning against one of the partially standing walls. Of course, the rifle was pretty much a relic from the rain and snow that had leaked in on it for who knows how long. Not an 1886 Winchester, but still a neat old gun --- a Colt Lightning in 44-40. He sold it to me for $50.00. I went out scouring that area after that and found lots of rusty cans and pots and pans, and dozens of old whiskey bottles out in the Junipers and Sage Brush, but nothing very valuable. Of course some of those whisky bottles would probably sell well on ebay today because the bottle glass had air bubbles in it and no seams in the mouths where the cork stoppers went. Wish I would have saved some.

BTW, while in the military 35 years ago, I was assigned to the German-French border area and loved to hike amoung the blown up concrete bunkers and pill-boxes along the Seigfried Line. Found a number of small relics from WWII like 50 cal brass, bayonets and belt buckles. One day in the woods fairly near Bitsch, France, I found a U.S. M-1 carbine stuck barrel-first in the ground along side a big old tree. The stock wood had mostly rotted off and the bottom 10 inches or so of the barrel was rusted and pitted so bad that a couple of pits actually went through the barrel and into the bore of the carbine. Brought that relic home and researched it. Turns out it is a fairly rare Rock-ola contract rifle. Kind of neat to find stuff like that out in obscure places.
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My Blu-Ray of "The Edge" arrived today from Amazon.com. I popped it in and went directly to this frame:

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On the cartridge sticking out of the box that Baldwin's index finger is touching (not the one he is removing from the box) the headstamp clearly reads "W-W" and "45-70 GOVT." I can't make out the headstamp on the one he's removing from the box.
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Ysabel Kid wrote:Alec Baldwin is a leftist flake with an ego the size of Montana. I won't watch anything he's in.
Explained that to my girlfriend when she wanted to rent one of his movies last year - told her to knock her lights out but I wouldn't watch it.
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I love that movie it and death hunt just about make up for all the stuff we have to watch today! I have a 1894 but it
only fires one at time(trapdoor)! Johnson County Wars also has some fine firearms in it!

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