OT: What Are YOU Going To Buy For The Centennial ? ?
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OT: What Are YOU Going To Buy For The Centennial ? ?
While recognizing that this forum is dedicated to leverguns, I can also recognize that some levergunners are dedicated to the 1911 pistol -
WHICH WILL BE CELEBRATING IT'S 100th BIRTHDAY NEXT YEAR !
I'm saving my pennies, so I can buy one of those new/georgeous Remington 1911-R1 .45's in 2011.
Anyone else care to play ?
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WHICH WILL BE CELEBRATING IT'S 100th BIRTHDAY NEXT YEAR !
I'm saving my pennies, so I can buy one of those new/georgeous Remington 1911-R1 .45's in 2011.
Anyone else care to play ?
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I would love to get a Kimber Super Carry Ultra. I better start saving some pennies too.
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I think I'm with Pete44ru.
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Re: OT: What Are YOU Going To Buy For The Centennial ? ?
The Kimber Centennial Edition
The new Remington
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The new Remington
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If I got another, it would be a Para Ordnance stainless double-stack. Or a Rock Island clone. I don't really 'need' the extra rounds, but I have large enough hands that the regular 1911 grip feels like holding a deck of cards - too thin to really get a 'grip' on.
I had a Para-LDA, and it was AWESOME if you like double-actions. The trigger pull on those is unlike any firearm I've ever had. Long, but so light it almost reminds me of a Contender.
I had a Para-LDA, and it was AWESOME if you like double-actions. The trigger pull on those is unlike any firearm I've ever had. Long, but so light it almost reminds me of a Contender.
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Well, since next year is still far enough away that I might have a chance to buy one, I'd like a real, genuine, Colt Government Model, or a really military 1911a1.
Other than that I'd look at the Springfield 1911a1 mil spec if they still make them.
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Other than that I'd look at the Springfield 1911a1 mil spec if they still make them.
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Re: OT: What Are YOU Going To Buy For The Centennial ? ?
Y2K will get a 1911. Haven't told him yet, but this is perfect timing!
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Ok, now I want one (wanted one for decades)..
Not up on the various models But my candy store has a couple of good guys on the 1911
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Re: OT: What Are YOU Going To Buy For The Centennial ? ?
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Re: OT: What Are YOU Going To Buy For The Centennial ? ?
something to think about......
What a Wild Bunch...you guys are....
What a Wild Bunch...you guys are....
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Re: OT: What Are YOU Going To Buy For The Centennial ? ?
I think you've made an EXCELLENT choice. I haven't shot one but the three I've seen looked to be consistently quality.Pete44ru wrote:While recognizing that this forum is dedicated to leverguns, I can also recognize that some levergunners are dedicated to the 1911 pistol -
WHICH WILL BE CELEBRATING IT'S 100th BIRTHDAY NEXT YEAR !
I'm saving my pennies, so I can buy one of those new/georgeous Remington 1911-R1 .45's in 2011.
Anyone else care to play ?
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Sincerely,
Hobie
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Re: OT: What Are YOU Going To Buy For The Centennial ? ?
While this may be considered blaspheme, I don't find the 1911 platform appealing at all. Even though I carried one for 3 yrs in the Army and used it in combat, I don't think that they are a good choice for me. The thin grip is hard for me to get a solid grip on, the heavy weight for the limited rounds is a drawback, their notoriously finicky feeding of some bullet styles, and the fact that most, if not all 1911 style pistols sold today require significant work just to get them to run turns me off. It's true that the 1911 is a wonderful piece of history and revolutionary in it's design but like the flintlock, it's been passed by more modern, more reliable designs.
I demand absolute reliability in a CCW or HD weapon. Modern combat pistols are much better suited for my needs without all the hassles of the 1911 platforms. For example, my HD Glock 22 has well over 27,000rds through it and my CCW Glock 23 has 4,700rds through it, both without a single failure. That's right, directly out of the box, no adjustments, no tweaking, no issues. I just cleaned them lightly and they run. And my Glocks aren't unique as all but a few defective ones run perfectly right out of the box. I've shot many different bullet weights, bullet types, and loads through them and they've eaten everything I've fed them.
I demand absolute reliability in a CCW or HD weapon. Modern combat pistols are much better suited for my needs without all the hassles of the 1911 platforms. For example, my HD Glock 22 has well over 27,000rds through it and my CCW Glock 23 has 4,700rds through it, both without a single failure. That's right, directly out of the box, no adjustments, no tweaking, no issues. I just cleaned them lightly and they run. And my Glocks aren't unique as all but a few defective ones run perfectly right out of the box. I've shot many different bullet weights, bullet types, and loads through them and they've eaten everything I've fed them.
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Re: OT: What Are YOU Going To Buy For The Centennial ? ?
yeah, oh well.........
Meahwhile, here's Colt's offering:
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Meahwhile, here's Colt's offering:
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Re: OT: What Are YOU Going To Buy For The Centennial ? ?
While I do agree that 1911's are heavy and low capacity, it IS a 45 and some of that capacity can be negated by effective force...COSteve wrote:While this may be considered blaspheme, I don't find the 1911 platform appealing at all. Even though I carried one for 3 yrs in the Army and used it in combat, I don't think that they are a good choice for me. The thin grip is hard for me to get a solid grip on, the heavy weight for the limited rounds is a drawback, their notoriously finicky feeding of some bullet styles, and the fact that most, if not all 1911 style pistols sold today require significant work just to get them to run turns me off. It's true that the 1911 is a wonderful piece of history and revolutionary in it's design but like the flintlock, it's been passed by more modern, more reliable designs.
I demand absolute reliability in a CCW or HD weapon. Modern combat pistols are much better suited for my needs without all the hassles of the 1911 platforms. For example, my HD Glock 22 has well over 27,000rds through it and my CCW Glock 23 has 4,700rds through it, both without a single failure. That's right, directly out of the box, no adjustments, no tweaking, no issues. I just cleaned them lightly and they run. And my Glocks aren't unique as all but a few defective ones run perfectly right out of the box. I've shot many different bullet weights, bullet types, and loads through them and they've eaten everything I've fed them.
I have a special place in my heart for 1911's, but I do see the Glock being the next "icon", if you will.
It has all the mechanical advantage of the 1911, but is simplified to maintain reliability and user friendly charachteristics.
The 1911 is the greatest pistol design of it's time and I would never besmirch that honor, but I do feel the Glock is the design for the next hundred years, especially in a fighting/CCW/self defense role...
Yes, Springfield does still manufacture the Mil Spec and mine runs flawlessly.
1911's are beautiful and effective, Glocks are beautiful in their in simplicity and reliability....
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Re: OT: What Are YOU Going To Buy For The Centennial ? ?
I've had a number of 1911's over time and enjoyed shooting them. If a guy wants one, that's reason enough to get one, centennial or not.
They're fun guns, but they arent very practical as a field gun where I'm at. I have an early 1911 (1914), but it just doesnt do much for me, practically or emotionally. It wouldnt be my first choice for any purpose, in the mountains or not, and would likely be one of the first to go if I had to thin down the handgun pile. I just havent had the stellar reliability results that others have had in the dozen or more (mostly older Colts) I've had, nor does the round have very impressive terminal performace compared to most revolver rounds I've used in the field.
They're fun guns, but they arent very practical as a field gun where I'm at. I have an early 1911 (1914), but it just doesnt do much for me, practically or emotionally. It wouldnt be my first choice for any purpose, in the mountains or not, and would likely be one of the first to go if I had to thin down the handgun pile. I just havent had the stellar reliability results that others have had in the dozen or more (mostly older Colts) I've had, nor does the round have very impressive terminal performace compared to most revolver rounds I've used in the field.
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Re: OT: What Are YOU Going To Buy For The Centennial ? ?
I'll be looking for a 70 Series Commander or a full size 38 Super.
I need to replace the Delta (long story) in the stable.
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Re: OT: What Are YOU Going To Buy For The Centennial ? ?
I had a Glock 36, the single stack .45acp, and it would jam with blazers. The Para 1911 and the Kimber will eat any kind of cheap stuff I run thru them. Needless to say, the good stuff runs thru them perfectly, too.
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Re: OT: What Are YOU Going To Buy For The Centennial ? ?
Lest you all think I'm a 1911 hater, consider this from my post above, "It's true that the 1911 is a wonderful piece of history and revolutionary in it's design..." I love the genius of John Brown's design. They are beautiful and absolutely iconic firearms, however, today you can get a full size 45acp with higher capacity, lighter weight, and better ergonomics that is reliable right out of the box at a considerably cheaper price.
A pistol collector wouldn't be worth his salt without an example of one but some of us don't collect them, we buy only what we shoot; and we shoot a lot. For my defensive firearm choices, reliability and ergonomics trump nostalgia every time.
A pistol collector wouldn't be worth his salt without an example of one but some of us don't collect them, we buy only what we shoot; and we shoot a lot. For my defensive firearm choices, reliability and ergonomics trump nostalgia every time.
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Re: OT: What Are YOU Going To Buy For The Centennial ? ?
Have been yearning for a Kimber .22, might be a good excuse to get one.
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+1COSteve wrote:Lest you all think I'm a 1911 hater, consider this from my post above, "It's true that the 1911 is a wonderful piece of history and revolutionary in it's design..." I love the genius of John Brown's design. They are beautiful and absolutely iconic firearms, however, today you can get a full size 45acp with higher capacity, lighter weight, and better ergonomics that is reliable right out of the box at a considerably cheaper price.
A pistol collector wouldn't be worth his salt without an example of one but some of us don't collect them, we buy only what we shoot; and we shoot a lot. For my defensive firearm choices, reliability and ergonomics trump nostalgia every time.
This is the point I was trying to make. Thank you, sir!
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Re: OT: What Are YOU Going To Buy For The Centennial ? ?
I'm thinking hard about a stainless Colt with the rail.
Re: OT: What Are YOU Going To Buy For The Centennial ? ?
So for me the plastic fantastics so in vogue do not fit my hand. My reactionary arms are as fully reliable and accurate as those "tupperware jobs" so many love. The point is that you should get what feels right for you. It is enough to say that you'd prefer a Glock 21. However, for a CENTENNIAL celebration it seems something traditional might be in order... maybe a Thompson SMG!JohnB wrote:+1COSteve wrote:Lest you all think I'm a 1911 hater, consider this from my post above, "It's true that the 1911 is a wonderful piece of history and revolutionary in it's design..." I love the genius of John Brown's design. They are beautiful and absolutely iconic firearms, however, today you can get a full size 45acp with higher capacity, lighter weight, and better ergonomics that is reliable right out of the box at a considerably cheaper price.
A pistol collector wouldn't be worth his salt without an example of one but some of us don't collect them, we buy only what we shoot; and we shoot a lot. For my defensive firearm choices, reliability and ergonomics trump nostalgia every time.
This is the point I was trying to make. Thank you, sir!
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Re: OT: What Are YOU Going To Buy For The Centennial ? ?
Absolutely a valid point. We each have to get what fits us because we are all unique. I can't get a solid grip on any 1911 because the grip is too thin for my hand. I added a Hogue HandAll to my G20/21 Glock and it's fine. Heck, a LAR Grizzly has a perfect grip size for my mit.Hobie wrote:So for me the plastic fantastics so in vogue do not fit my hand.
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Re: OT: What Are YOU Going To Buy For The Centennial ? ?
Don't think I'll be getting another anytime soon. I don't shoot the few I have enough as it is.
But, on D-day +66yr, I did pick up a prk'd Springfield GI to replace the one I sold to get my 45colt Trapper. I paired it with my trusty old Ka-Bar. Then bought the Band of Brothers DVD set, To Hell and Back (Audie Murphy), and bought the Saving Private Ryan DVD to replace the VHS.
I definitely wouldn't mind picking up a new roll mark colt 1991a1 to go with my old roll mark.
But, on D-day +66yr, I did pick up a prk'd Springfield GI to replace the one I sold to get my 45colt Trapper. I paired it with my trusty old Ka-Bar. Then bought the Band of Brothers DVD set, To Hell and Back (Audie Murphy), and bought the Saving Private Ryan DVD to replace the VHS.
I definitely wouldn't mind picking up a new roll mark colt 1991a1 to go with my old roll mark.
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If I were to buy a 1911, I think Kimber or STI would get my $. But I'm with COSteve, the newer platforms fit me better. After messing around with an FNP-40, I think I'd buy the FN 45 if I were to buy a .45ACP.
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I guess you had to be here but a few minutes ago Jr. was sitting here and he read this post. Then he read the tittle of the post out loud... there was a pause, then he says, Mom's gonna freak!
I know it might not be too funny in print but it gave me an honest 3 minutes of good old fashioned belly laughing. Jr. will be 22 next week and is old enough to buy his own 1911.
I know it might not be too funny in print but it gave me an honest 3 minutes of good old fashioned belly laughing. Jr. will be 22 next week and is old enough to buy his own 1911.
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I would most like to find an original Colt made in the early 1940's but somehow maintained in a hermetically sealed container.
Since I won't be able to afford that, I will look for a Kimber. They don't give those away either. But that Cenntennial looks beautiful.
By the way +1 on the comment above about Para USA LDA pistols. I love mine.
Since I won't be able to afford that, I will look for a Kimber. They don't give those away either. But that Cenntennial looks beautiful.
By the way +1 on the comment above about Para USA LDA pistols. I love mine.
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I would like to have a Colt with the 1911-2011 logo, but I want it to be traditional with the same high polish blue that my 1954 Commander has. Arched main spring housing, wide spur hammer, no beavertail, no extended anything. Just a classic look for THE classic handgun.
I have a Kimber Custom (original, not II) that is a GREAT shooter, a Springfield GI, that I installed a wide spur hammer and a Colt WWI repro thumb safety (still need a checkered slide lock/release and a checkered mainspring housing) a stainless Series 80 Colt Government Model and the above mentioned Colt Commander.
My Kimber is by far my best shooting 1911 but TO ME, nothing says 1911 like Colt.
I have a Kimber Custom (original, not II) that is a GREAT shooter, a Springfield GI, that I installed a wide spur hammer and a Colt WWI repro thumb safety (still need a checkered slide lock/release and a checkered mainspring housing) a stainless Series 80 Colt Government Model and the above mentioned Colt Commander.
My Kimber is by far my best shooting 1911 but TO ME, nothing says 1911 like Colt.
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I do like those new Remington R1s. And I am seriously thinking about getting a Springer GI Micro.
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Re: OT: What Are YOU Going To Buy For The Centennial ? ?
I don't know if I will buy another 1911, as I have plenty of them. I love 1911's, and I have been shooting them for over 30yrs. I have shot a lot of competition and carried one form or another of the 1911 for my main CCW guns for years. They are still my favorite semi-auto pistol.
However, the 1911 just might need to be an expert's gun, where IMHO there is no better gun, but unforunately there are a lot of clones out there, and a lot of changes from the original being offered by the manufactures, and often they do need a little help, to get ironed out, but many still do work perfectly out of the box.
As far as reliability goes, I will put my personal 1911's up against any combat pistol, and a good well built 1911 is often more accurate then the newer plastic wonders.
If guns are not outlawed completely, the 1911 will live to see another hundred years.
However, the 1911 just might need to be an expert's gun, where IMHO there is no better gun, but unforunately there are a lot of clones out there, and a lot of changes from the original being offered by the manufactures, and often they do need a little help, to get ironed out, but many still do work perfectly out of the box.
As far as reliability goes, I will put my personal 1911's up against any combat pistol, and a good well built 1911 is often more accurate then the newer plastic wonders.
If guns are not outlawed completely, the 1911 will live to see another hundred years.
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One Gold Cup here please !! If i want to go "modern" -- almost anything from Nighthawk will fill the bill (my stealership is a Nighthawk stocking retailer -- so these darn things torture me a couple of times a month)
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Re: OT: What Are YOU Going To Buy For The Centennial ? ?
Well then I guess the original question posed wasn't aimed at you! Some people have nothing but black or camouflaged plastic-fantastic rifles in their sheds and zero lever guns. I couldn't care less.COSteve wrote:While this may be considered blaspheme, I don't find the 1911 platform appealing at all. Even though I carried one for 3 yrs in the Army and used it in combat, I don't think that they are a good choice for me. The thin grip is hard for me to get a solid grip on, the heavy weight for the limited rounds is a drawback, their notoriously finicky feeding of some bullet styles, and the fact that most, if not all 1911 style pistols sold today require significant work just to get them to run turns me off. It's true that the 1911 is a wonderful piece of history and revolutionary in it's design but like the flintlock, it's been passed by more modern, more reliable designs.
I demand absolute reliability in a CCW or HD weapon. Modern combat pistols are much better suited for my needs without all the hassles of the 1911 platforms. For example, my HD Glock 22 has well over 27,000rds through it and my CCW Glock 23 has 4,700rds through it, both without a single failure. That's right, directly out of the box, no adjustments, no tweaking, no issues. I just cleaned them lightly and they run. And my Glocks aren't unique as all but a few defective ones run perfectly right out of the box. I've shot many different bullet weights, bullet types, and loads through them and they've eaten everything I've fed them.
Cheers,
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That fires we don't put out will bigger burn
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A nice, vintage Super .38 has been calling to me for many years.
Cheers,
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Cheers,
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Cheers,
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Re: OT: What Are YOU Going To Buy For The Centennial ? ?
I DID IT ! ! !
I didn't wanna wait until the end of the year, so today I had a local FFL order in a new Remington 1911 R1.
I don't expect to see it until sometime next week, after a looong weekend - but I intend to shoot it a bit & post a pic or two, afterwards.
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I didn't wanna wait until the end of the year, so today I had a local FFL order in a new Remington 1911 R1.
I don't expect to see it until sometime next week, after a looong weekend - but I intend to shoot it a bit & post a pic or two, afterwards.
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