Way off topic I know but this is my primary forum for knowledge and answers. Pro and cons between the CZ52 and the TT in 7.62X25....also TT built in Poland, Romania or Yugo.....which is best...at $.11 per round for good PRVI surplus looks kinda like a fun plinker....must admit the CZ is ugly...I appreciate your opinions...
jumbeaux
Totally OT - CZ52 or TT 7.62X25
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Barcelona Rick
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Re: Totally OT - CZ52 or TT 7.62X25
Both are good pistols.
The CZ is a beast of a gun and very accurate. Really fun to shoot.
Built like a German machine gun!
It's only flaw that I've heard is the firing pin can break if dry fired too many times.
The TT is lighter and thinner. Carries quite nicely and is also very accurate.
Nicest one I've had was one of the Polish Radoms. Nicely made and
chrome lined bore for corrosive ammo.
Easier take down.
Comes down to which one you like better I think.
jb
The CZ is a beast of a gun and very accurate. Really fun to shoot.
Built like a German machine gun!
It's only flaw that I've heard is the firing pin can break if dry fired too many times.
The TT is lighter and thinner. Carries quite nicely and is also very accurate.
Nicest one I've had was one of the Polish Radoms. Nicely made and
chrome lined bore for corrosive ammo.
Easier take down.
Comes down to which one you like better I think.
jb
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Re: Totally OT - CZ52 or TT 7.62X25
I like the Tokarevs better than the CZ52. Some of the Toks have a real collector interest but those that bought early imports don't know what they have so prices can vary quite a bit. Have fun and keep the water and funnel handy for that corrosive surplus ammo.
Sincerely,
Hobie
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Stan in SC
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Re: Totally OT - CZ52 or TT 7.62X25
Within two months I have gone from owning no Tokarev pistols to owning two Romanian ones and I am the possessor of a wee bit over 3000 rounds of ammunition.I like the Tok much better than the CZ.These are great pistols and the cartridge is great.Moving at around 1500FPS at the barrel it is very flat shooting.I normally shoot my other pistols at 10 and 25 yards.I shoot my Toks at 100 yards and they are extremely accurate at that distance.
Stan in SC
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Re: Totally OT - CZ52 or TT 7.62X25
I had two CZ52 pistols at one time, but let them go. The grip was just too awkward. Also had a Romanian TT33. Much better grip, and probably the best buy currently out there. I let that one go also. Right now I have a 1939 Russian TT33. It has absolutely no finish, and came from a deceased WWII veteran's estate. It was missing the firing pin, and slide stop clip. I'm pretty sure the veteran removed the firing pin, spring, and retaining pin, since his family told the dealer I bought it from he didn't like guns, and none of his children wanted it either. The slide stop clip had been replaced by a bent hair pin. Replaced all those with chinese parts, now it shoots as good as any other 7.62x25 I've had before. With a lightly frosted bore to boot.
This one is my keeper. Supposedly, the veteran took it from a German sometime late during the Ardennes battle, but who knows? The family thought it was Belgian. The dealer sold it to me relatively cheap, because it had sat for a while, was missing parts, and looked almost nickel finished. But that was just a plain white finish. I believe the veteran, who was really into knives and daggers, probably polished it up while passing time. It looks kind of ugly in the white, but at least the patina is (very) slowly returning. Haven't shot more than 100 ronds out of it. I have about 250 rounds of Chinese surplus, but can't shoot it indoors because they are steel jacketed. I shoot it infrequently outdoors at 25 yards, but really, I like to shoot rifles more than handguns. I do have one mold that might work OK with it. One of these days, I want to try that.
The only drawback with the Russian pistol is that it has no safety. The Romanian one has a safety, but it was a recent add-one. It didn't impress me. Basically, you have to carry this pistol with a empty chamber, and rack the slide when you need it, PERIOD. For that reason, I can appreciate why some prefer the CZ52. But that handgun was so awkward for me, the empty chamber in the Tokarev is just as well for me.
This one is my keeper. Supposedly, the veteran took it from a German sometime late during the Ardennes battle, but who knows? The family thought it was Belgian. The dealer sold it to me relatively cheap, because it had sat for a while, was missing parts, and looked almost nickel finished. But that was just a plain white finish. I believe the veteran, who was really into knives and daggers, probably polished it up while passing time. It looks kind of ugly in the white, but at least the patina is (very) slowly returning. Haven't shot more than 100 ronds out of it. I have about 250 rounds of Chinese surplus, but can't shoot it indoors because they are steel jacketed. I shoot it infrequently outdoors at 25 yards, but really, I like to shoot rifles more than handguns. I do have one mold that might work OK with it. One of these days, I want to try that.
The only drawback with the Russian pistol is that it has no safety. The Romanian one has a safety, but it was a recent add-one. It didn't impress me. Basically, you have to carry this pistol with a empty chamber, and rack the slide when you need it, PERIOD. For that reason, I can appreciate why some prefer the CZ52. But that handgun was so awkward for me, the empty chamber in the Tokarev is just as well for me.
Re: Totally OT - CZ52 or TT 7.62X25
Not a fan of either one, but the Tok will actually have parts around, having been built in many countries over decades (and they're still being carried in various parts of the world).
The Tok has no safety worth mentioning, I don't trust the aftermarket types you see.
As a range plinker or last ditch survival piece, they can be used, but I'd rather have a 500 round stockpile of .38 Special and a couple used S&W K-frames, or a couple used Glocks and 9mm.
The Tok has no safety worth mentioning, I don't trust the aftermarket types you see.
As a range plinker or last ditch survival piece, they can be used, but I'd rather have a 500 round stockpile of .38 Special and a couple used S&W K-frames, or a couple used Glocks and 9mm.
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Barcelona Rick
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Re: Totally OT - CZ52 or TT 7.62X25
MrMurphy...got to thinking about my old Smith pre-model 10 and figured up reloading cost for some Unique and cast bullet loads and you hit the nail on the head....for what the Tok or Cz would cost me I can reload alot of rounds....good advice and makes sense to me....
jumbeaux
jumbeaux
Re: Totally OT - CZ52 or TT 7.62X25
on the tok and the cz52 neat guns had a few but now they all gone.those pistols chuck the brass into the next county 
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I can remember at the rod and gun club in germany you could buy a "russian" tok with a 7.62 & 9mm barrel and it came with a holster/mags for $159.00.
pete
.I can remember at the rod and gun club in germany you could buy a "russian" tok with a 7.62 & 9mm barrel and it came with a holster/mags for $159.00.
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