OT: Hey guys, need a little help with a semi-auto

[MikeS.]

I was shooting my new 10mm carbine with some of my reloads. I was using 5.5 grains of w-231 under a 180 grn Sierra JHP with a Winchester LP. Sierra's manual says 5.8 as max.

The case I used was an older case and had finger prints (rusted?) into the side. Stupid me used it anyways Stupid new reloader trick. Learned that lesson.

Anyways, the case separated when fired and extracted. A piece of it is still in the chamber.

Any ideas on how to get that piece out?

[deerwhacker444]

Plug the bore just in front of the chamber and fill it full of Cerrosafe. When it cools, knock out the casting and the broken case should come with it. I've never done it, but lots of folks here apparently have with good results.

[Rusty]

What carbine do you have in 10mm?

BTW A broken shell extractor from an M-1 Garandmight work if the I.D. is close enough to the '06.

[MikeS.]

Rusty, being 10mm, .400 I.D, I don't think the Garand extractor would work.

Someone on another board has suggested using a new .45 bore brush. Push it in past the rim of the broken case and then pull back. I'll try that tomorrow.

[Sixgun]

Mike,
The bore brush thing works about 95% of the time. Buy a couple. Thread it in from the breech after passing the rod through the bore----pull in until you are in the case----then push back out towards the bolt.

If that don't work and you don't feel like waiting for a broken shell extractor, etc, get a mess of cleaning patches and plug the bore, just ahead of the case-------grease up the area where the broken case is not--------drop a load of two part epoxy where the case is--------------wait a day and knock her out.-------

or...... (It will take too long to describe it so I'll give you the idea) get a 10/32 or a 1/4"/20 screw with two nuts. Stick a soft rubber washer between the nuts and tighten her up while its in the chamber (where the case is ) until the rubber washer tightens up on the inside of the case----------push her out--------------------Sixgun

[Paladin]

Spray some kroil into the chamber and leave it set over night. Then try the bore brush. If that does not work a broke case extractor would be best. There are a few other ways but PM me for some that I have used while away from my tools.

[mescalero1]

Go with cerro-safe
has worked for me for a LONG time

[Kansas Ed]

Mike,

...... (It will take too long to describe it so I'll give you the idea) get a 10/32 or a 1/4"/20 screw with two nuts. Stick a soft rubber washer between the nuts and tighten her up while its in the chamber (where the case is ) until the rubber washer tightens up on the inside of the case----------push her out--------------------Sixgun

Never had that issue before, but I'm sure one day I will. And your idea is simply brilliant. Thanks for the info.

Ed

[DarryH]

I would use a cleaning rod and a .45 caliber brush.
It will go down the bore.
If you carbibe allows it, do it from the rear.
Usually a little turn or two and the broken case will come right out.

[MikeS.]

Well the durn thing is still stuck. I've tried the .45 and .50 cal brush. Tried cerrosoft. Nuttin is working. I've tried and so has 3 gents at my local gun store. This darn case is stuck GOOD. The gunstore isn't a gunsmith but they do a lot of minor gun smithing kinda stuff. The guys there are well experienced gun nuts too.

I'm now trying to contact the mfg., Mech-Tech, to see what they advise. I may have to send it back to them. What a PITA.

[Gun Smith]

A brass rod with a slight bend on the end might catch the shell lip and pop it out.

[airedaleman]

See if you can find a piece of 3/8" brass rod. Saw a longitudinal slot in one end of it mebbe an inch long. Spread the "legs"
till they are a good spring fit in the muzzle. Push the rod down the barrel and the legs should catch the mouth of the case.
Has always worked for me, although I never had a problem with a straight-walled case like the .40 S&W.

[Thunder50]

This is a long shot, but soak in kroil, the put it in the freezer, pull out the next day, let sit for a couple of hours, the try the brush thing again.

[AJMD429]

Dumb-question-time...

Why is it bad to reload a case with a 'fingerprint' on it...?

Most of mine if they sit long enough have tarnish, and sometimes in the shape of a fingerprint. Are they therefore weaker?

[MikeS.]

FINALLY! I used a 8/32 2" machine screw, a nut, a #6 flat washer 2 #6 star washers, another flat and a nut. Got this inside the brass and tightened the screw good so that the star washer grabbed the brass. Inserted a 3/8 wood dowel down the barrel then tapped with rubber mallet.

It came loose after about 8 blows.

[MikeS.]

Dumb-question-time...

Why is it bad to reload a case with a 'fingerprint' on it...?

Most of mine if they sit long enough have tarnish, and sometimes in the shape of a fingerprint. Are they therefore weaker?

My load was middle of the road. So all i can deduce is that the fingerprinted case was weakened and thus seperated when fired.