A friend of mine was diagnosed with lung and brain cancer on of all days Saturday, July 4, 2009. What a kick in the cajones. He and I were in the Navy together for 24-years and then have lived in the same area since we retired 20-years ago. Anyway, maybe you guys/gals can say a few words for him and his wife and family.
I'm taking him today to start his treatment so I'll be in and out of the forum as time permits. Thanks.
Ed
OT: Need a prayer for a friend UPDATE
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OT: Need a prayer for a friend UPDATE
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Re: OT: Need a prayer for a friend
I will put him in my thoughts and prayers. Consider it done. I'll tell you, these members are great about giving the time to their fellow men and women in time of need.
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Re: OT: Need a prayer for a friend
That sounds like the last thing you want to be told on the 4th of July or any other time for that matter.
Prayers sent to your friend and his wife and family, also the doctors and nurses that will be treating him in hospital.
Will be thinking of you too Ed.
Prayers sent to your friend and his wife and family, also the doctors and nurses that will be treating him in hospital.
Will be thinking of you too Ed.
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Re: OT: Need a prayer for a friend
My prayers go out to you and your shipmate....
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Re: OT: Need a prayer for a friend
prayers up for the shipmates and their families and healthcare providers.... for the best possible outcome.
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Re: OT: Need a prayer for a friend
Prayers have been said.
RR7, how is your wife doing?
RR7, how is your wife doing?
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Re: OT: Need a prayer for a friend
Done! God Bless. Tom
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Re: OT: Need a prayer for a friend
Done. Best of luck for your friend.
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Re: OT: Need a prayer for a friend
Done. He's fortunate in one very important aspect. He's got you for a friend.
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Re: OT: Need a prayer for a friend
On the list . . .
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Re: OT: Need a prayer for a friend
Done!
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Re: OT: Need a prayer for a friend
Prayers sent.Jim.
Re: OT: Need a prayer for a friend
Done!
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Re: OT: Need a prayer for a friend
I am sorry to hear this news. Prayers for you and your friend. Blessings
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Re: OT: Need a prayer for a friend
Sorry to hear that, Ed. I've already said a prayer for him.
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Re: OT: Need a prayer for a friend
Its done! Prayers have been sent!
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Re: OT: Need a prayer for a friend
Done. I'm afraid that's gonna be a real rough ride for him and his family. Only God can determine the ultimate course, but friends can make a big difference in smoothing out the 'bumps'.
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Re: OT: Need a prayer for a friend
Healing thoughts and prayers for your Navy buddy and friend. May God Bless him, his wife and family, and you Ed.
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Re: OT: Need a prayer for a friend
Done. I hope and pray for a miraculous recovery for your friend and our shipmate! 
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Re: OT: Need a prayer for a friend
Done my friend.
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Re: OT: Need a prayer for a friend
Prayers sent.
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Re: OT: Need a prayer for a friend
Prayers sent for your shipmate 
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Re: OT: Need a prayer for a friend
Sorry to learn about this. Prayers sent for him his family and friends.
Here's something you might want to pass along. I got this from a friend.
ASPARAGUS AFFECT ON CANCER
After reading this article over a month ago, I (Sue Tate) could not remember where it was. So I asked my sister to send it to me again. I am asking you to read it to the end. My Mom had been taking the full-stalk canned style asparagus that she pureed and she took 4 tablespoons in the morning and 4 tablespoons later in the day. She did this for over a month. She is on chemo pills for Stage 3 lung cancer in the pleural area and her cancer cell count went from 386 down to 125 as of this past week. Her oncologist said she does not need to see him for 3 months.
THE ARTICLE:
Several years ago, I had a man seeking asparagus for a friend who had cancer.. He gave me a photocopied copy of an article,entitled, `Asparagus for cancer' printed in Cancer NewsJournal, December 1979.
I will share it here, just as it was shared with me:'I am a biochemist,and have specialized in the relation of diet to health for over 50 years..Several years ago, I learned of the discovery of Richard R. Vensal, D.D.S. That asparagus might cure cancer.
Since then, I have worked with him on his project. We have accumulated a number of favorable case histories.
Here are a few examples:
Case No. 1, A man with an almost hopeless case of Hodgkin's disease (cancer of the lymph glands) who was completely incapacitated. Within 1 year of starting the asparagus therapy, his doctors were unable to detect any signs of cancer, and he was back on a schedule of strenuous exercise.
Case No. 2, a successful businessman 68 years old who suffered from cancer of the bladder for 16 years. After years of medical treatments, including radiation without improvement, he went on asparagus. Within
3 months, examinations revealed that his bladder tumor had disappeared and that his kidneys were normal.
Case No. 3, a man who had lung cancer. On March 5th 1971, he was put on the operating table where they found lung cancer so widely spread that it was inoperable. The surgeon sewed him up and declared his case hopeless. On April 5th he heard about the asparagus therapy and immediately started taking it.By August, x-ray pictures revealed that all signs of the cancer had disappeared.. He is back at his regular business routine.
Case No. 4, a woman who was troubled for a number of years with skin cancer. She finally developed different skin cancers which were diagnosed by asking specialist as advanced.. Within 3 months after starting on asparagus, her skin specialist said that her skin looked fine and no more skin lesions. This woman reported that the asparagus therapy also cure her kidney disease, which started in 1949.
She had over 10 operations for kidney stones, and was receiving government disability payments for an inoperable, terminal, kidney condition. She attributes the cure of this kidney trouble entirely to the asparagus.
I was not surprised at this result, as `The elements of materia medica', edited in 1854 by a Professor at the University of Pennsylvania, stated that asparagus was used as a popular remedy for kidney stones. He even referred to experiments, in 1739, on the power of asparagus in dissolving stones.
We would have other case histories but the medical establishment has interfered with our obtaining some of the records. I am therefore appealing to readers to spread this good news and help us to gather a large number of case histories that will overwhelm the medical skeptics about this unbelievably simple and natural remedy.
For the treatment, asparagus should be cooked before using, and therefore canned asparagus is just as good as fresh.
I have corresponded with the two leading canners of asparagus, Giant and Stokely, and I am satisfied that these brands con- tain no pesticides or preservatives.
Place the cooked asparagus in a blender and liquefy to make a puree, and store in the refrigerator. Give the patient 4 full tablespoons twice daily, morning and evening.
Patients usually show some improvement in from 2-4 weeks.
It can be diluted with water and used as a cold or hot drink.. This suggested dosage is based on present experience, but certainly larger amounts can do no harm and may be needed in some cases.
As a biochemist I am convinced of the old saying that `what cures can prevent'. Based on this theory, my wife and I have been usi ng asparagus puree as a beverage with our meals.
We take 2 tablespoons diluted in water to suit our taste with breakfast and with dinner. I take mine hot and my wife prefers hers cold. For years we have made it a practice to have blood surveys taken as part of our regular checkups.
The last blood survey, taken by a medical doctor who specializes in the nutritional approach to health, showed substantial improvements in all categories over the last one, and we can attribute these improvements to nothing but the asparagus drink...
As a biochemist, I have made an extensive study of all aspects of cancer, and all of the proposed cures. As a result, I am convinced that asparagus fits in better with the latest theories about cancer.Asparagus contains a good supply of protein called histones,which are believed to be active in controlling cell growth. For that reason, I believe asparagus can be said to contain a substance that I call cell growth normalizer. That accounts for its action on cancer and in acting as a general body tonic.
In any event, regardless of theory, asparagus used as we suggest, is a harmless substance. The FDA cannot prevent you from using it and it may do you much good..
It has been reported by the US National Cancer Institute, that asparagus is the highest tested food containing glutathione, which is considered one of the body's most potent anticarcinogens and antioxidants.
Snopes checked it out as UNDETERMINED See: http://www.snopes.com/food/ingredient/asparagus.asp
w30wcf
Here's something you might want to pass along. I got this from a friend.
ASPARAGUS AFFECT ON CANCER
After reading this article over a month ago, I (Sue Tate) could not remember where it was. So I asked my sister to send it to me again. I am asking you to read it to the end. My Mom had been taking the full-stalk canned style asparagus that she pureed and she took 4 tablespoons in the morning and 4 tablespoons later in the day. She did this for over a month. She is on chemo pills for Stage 3 lung cancer in the pleural area and her cancer cell count went from 386 down to 125 as of this past week. Her oncologist said she does not need to see him for 3 months.
THE ARTICLE:
Several years ago, I had a man seeking asparagus for a friend who had cancer.. He gave me a photocopied copy of an article,entitled, `Asparagus for cancer' printed in Cancer NewsJournal, December 1979.
I will share it here, just as it was shared with me:'I am a biochemist,and have specialized in the relation of diet to health for over 50 years..Several years ago, I learned of the discovery of Richard R. Vensal, D.D.S. That asparagus might cure cancer.
Since then, I have worked with him on his project. We have accumulated a number of favorable case histories.
Here are a few examples:
Case No. 1, A man with an almost hopeless case of Hodgkin's disease (cancer of the lymph glands) who was completely incapacitated. Within 1 year of starting the asparagus therapy, his doctors were unable to detect any signs of cancer, and he was back on a schedule of strenuous exercise.
Case No. 2, a successful businessman 68 years old who suffered from cancer of the bladder for 16 years. After years of medical treatments, including radiation without improvement, he went on asparagus. Within
3 months, examinations revealed that his bladder tumor had disappeared and that his kidneys were normal.
Case No. 3, a man who had lung cancer. On March 5th 1971, he was put on the operating table where they found lung cancer so widely spread that it was inoperable. The surgeon sewed him up and declared his case hopeless. On April 5th he heard about the asparagus therapy and immediately started taking it.By August, x-ray pictures revealed that all signs of the cancer had disappeared.. He is back at his regular business routine.
Case No. 4, a woman who was troubled for a number of years with skin cancer. She finally developed different skin cancers which were diagnosed by asking specialist as advanced.. Within 3 months after starting on asparagus, her skin specialist said that her skin looked fine and no more skin lesions. This woman reported that the asparagus therapy also cure her kidney disease, which started in 1949.
She had over 10 operations for kidney stones, and was receiving government disability payments for an inoperable, terminal, kidney condition. She attributes the cure of this kidney trouble entirely to the asparagus.
I was not surprised at this result, as `The elements of materia medica', edited in 1854 by a Professor at the University of Pennsylvania, stated that asparagus was used as a popular remedy for kidney stones. He even referred to experiments, in 1739, on the power of asparagus in dissolving stones.
We would have other case histories but the medical establishment has interfered with our obtaining some of the records. I am therefore appealing to readers to spread this good news and help us to gather a large number of case histories that will overwhelm the medical skeptics about this unbelievably simple and natural remedy.
For the treatment, asparagus should be cooked before using, and therefore canned asparagus is just as good as fresh.
I have corresponded with the two leading canners of asparagus, Giant and Stokely, and I am satisfied that these brands con- tain no pesticides or preservatives.
Place the cooked asparagus in a blender and liquefy to make a puree, and store in the refrigerator. Give the patient 4 full tablespoons twice daily, morning and evening.
Patients usually show some improvement in from 2-4 weeks.
It can be diluted with water and used as a cold or hot drink.. This suggested dosage is based on present experience, but certainly larger amounts can do no harm and may be needed in some cases.
As a biochemist I am convinced of the old saying that `what cures can prevent'. Based on this theory, my wife and I have been usi ng asparagus puree as a beverage with our meals.
We take 2 tablespoons diluted in water to suit our taste with breakfast and with dinner. I take mine hot and my wife prefers hers cold. For years we have made it a practice to have blood surveys taken as part of our regular checkups.
The last blood survey, taken by a medical doctor who specializes in the nutritional approach to health, showed substantial improvements in all categories over the last one, and we can attribute these improvements to nothing but the asparagus drink...
As a biochemist, I have made an extensive study of all aspects of cancer, and all of the proposed cures. As a result, I am convinced that asparagus fits in better with the latest theories about cancer.Asparagus contains a good supply of protein called histones,which are believed to be active in controlling cell growth. For that reason, I believe asparagus can be said to contain a substance that I call cell growth normalizer. That accounts for its action on cancer and in acting as a general body tonic.
In any event, regardless of theory, asparagus used as we suggest, is a harmless substance. The FDA cannot prevent you from using it and it may do you much good..
It has been reported by the US National Cancer Institute, that asparagus is the highest tested food containing glutathione, which is considered one of the body's most potent anticarcinogens and antioxidants.
Snopes checked it out as UNDETERMINED See: http://www.snopes.com/food/ingredient/asparagus.asp
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Re: OT: Need a prayer for a friend
Done....................
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Re: OT: Need a prayer for a friend (UPDATE)
UPDATE:
Well, after all the tests, biopsies, prodding, and probing, my friend has been diagnosed with Stage-4 cancer of the lung and brain. As yet it is confined to those two places but will in all likelyhood spread as it progresses. Surgery is not an option. All they can do is treat the cancer but not cure it. Of course we have hope and we pray every day; however, I fear he will be gone before the Holidays (Thanksgiving/Christmas). It's going to be a hard, rocky, road that he will travel but he will have company every step of the way.
I want to thank all of you for your prayers and well wishes.
Well, after all the tests, biopsies, prodding, and probing, my friend has been diagnosed with Stage-4 cancer of the lung and brain. As yet it is confined to those two places but will in all likelyhood spread as it progresses. Surgery is not an option. All they can do is treat the cancer but not cure it. Of course we have hope and we pray every day; however, I fear he will be gone before the Holidays (Thanksgiving/Christmas). It's going to be a hard, rocky, road that he will travel but he will have company every step of the way.
I want to thank all of you for your prayers and well wishes.
ED
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Re: OT: Need a prayer for a friend UPDATE
Ed, prayers up for your friend and for you, for God's Grace and Mercy and Healing...
Re: OT: Need a prayer for a friend UPDATE
w30wcf
I'm wondering what the purpose is of making a puree rather than just eating the asparagus, and why such a small amount? What about a can a day, or two cans per day?
just curious, but hoping with all my heart that it's true and effective for everyone suffering.
Grizz
I'm wondering what the purpose is of making a puree rather than just eating the asparagus, and why such a small amount? What about a can a day, or two cans per day?
just curious, but hoping with all my heart that it's true and effective for everyone suffering.
Grizz