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Truth or BS?

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Anyone else ever heard of this?



Senate Bill SB-2099





Senate Bill SB-2099 will require us to put on our 2009 1040 federal
tax form all guns that you have or own. It may require fingerprints
and a tax of $50 per gun.

This bill was introduced on Feb.. 24. This bill will become public
knowledge 30 days after it is voted into law. This is an amendment to
the Internal Revenue Act of 1986. This means that the Finance
Committee can pass this without the Senate voting on it at all.

The full text of the proposed amendment is on the U.S.
Senate homepage, http://www.senate.gov/ <http://www.senate.gov/> You
can find the bill by doing
a search by the bill number, SB-2099.

You know who to call; I strongly suggest you do. Please send a copy of
this e-mail to every gun owner you know to help STOP this bill!!


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Re: Truth or BS?

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I vote Bovine Scat... urban legend that been around since 2000:

Found on the internet:

PLEASE NOTE: This is an old rumor dating back to September 2000 (see analysis and update below). No such bill was introduced in 2009.


Analysis: As of this writing (September 2000), Senate Bill 2099 (S. 2099) does exist, but the legislation introduced by Senator Jack Reed of Rhode Island on February 24 has little in common with the description above.

* Email: "Senate Bill SB-2099 will require us to put on our 2000 1040 federal tax Form all guns that you have or own."

No, it won't. What the bill would require if it becomes law is the registration of all handguns. Its title is: "The Gun Registration and Safety Act of 2000." There is indeed a provision for a tax on all registered weapons, but it has nothing to do with your federal income tax forms and everything to do with establishing a national database of handgun owners.
* Email: "This bill will become public knowledge 30 days after it is voted into law."

Nonsense. It has been public knowledge ever since its introduction. Gun rights groups such as the National Rifle Association have been monitoring its progress (or lack thereof) closely and have referenced it in legislative alerts.
* Email: "This is an amendment to the Internal Revenue Act of 1986. This means that the Finance Committee can pass this without the Senate voting on it at all."

Poppycock. The law would involve a revision of the Internal Revenue Act, yes, but this bill has to go through standard Senate protocols before it can be passed. Besides, didn't a previous sentence just say it would become public knowledge only after it is "voted into law?"
* Email: "Please send a copy of this e-mail to every gun owner you know to help STOP this bill!!"

By all means protest this bill, or support it, if you feel moved either way. But be aware that nobody — including its main sponsor — expects the unpopular proposal to survive committee, let alone pass both houses of Congress. Even the National Rifle Association rates S. 2099 a low priority, having stated as recently as August 25, 2000: "While NRA opposes this legislation, there is no real threat of it passing at this time. Please continue to focus your energy on pending legislation in the U.S. House, and especially, in the U.S. Senate, that poses immediate threats to our freedoms."

Machiavellian schemes

Conspiracy theories play well on the Internet and have a time-honored place in the debate over gun control in the United States. A significant number of Second Amendment defenders not only argue but seem to sincerely believe that the only real reason gun control laws exist is to pave the way to a totalitarian state.

Within this world view it makes sense to believe that Machiavellian schemes are afoot; that anti-gun forces seek to bypass the rule of law to pass covert legislation of which the populace will only become aware when it's too late. The rumor under discussion fits right into this paradigm, more than making up for what it lacks in truth value with high drama verging on hysteria. In under a month of circulation, the email has already prompted hundreds of queries to Congressional offices from concerned but misled citizens across the U.S. If the author(s) of the email intended to stir up a fuss, they have accomplished their mission.

Lest anyone seek to justify the spread of misinformation by arguing that it's still good for the gun-rights cause because it rouses people to action, I hasten to point out that it has also roused the opposing side. In fact, GunRegistration.org, an association dedicated to enacting registration laws, now flaunts a color-coded critique of the fallacious email on its website and is using it to drum up support for the very bill it was designed to quash.

Like the chain letters say: "What goes around comes around."

2009 update:

With the "SB-2099" rumors circulating again in the wake of the 2008 election, the National Rifle Assocation released the following informational alert in May 2009:

Clearing Up the Rumors: The Truth About The “Gun Tax Bill”

Friday, May 29, 2009

In the last few weeks, NRA-ILA has received hundreds of e-mails warning us about “SB-2099,” a bill that would supposedly require you to report all your guns on your income tax return every April 15.

Like many rumors, there’s just a grain of truth to this one. Someone’s recycling an old alert, which wasn’t even very accurate when it was new.

There actually was a U.S. Senate bill with that number that would have taxed handguns—nine years ago. It was introduced by anti-gun Sen. Jack Reed (D-R.I.), and it would have included handguns under the National Firearms Act’s tax and registration scheme. This has nothing to do with anyone’s Form 1040, of course.

Fortunately, S. 2099 disappeared without any action by the Senate, back when Bill Clinton was still in the White House. We reported about it back then, just as we report about new anti-gun bills every week. Now, it’s time for gun owners to drop this old distraction and focus on the real threats at hand.
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I checked it out on Snopes and it was BS.....
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Throw the BS flag on this one.

The trouble is with things like this that folks just keep posting month after month is that when something really bad DOES pop up, more and more people will tend to ignore it, remember the little boy that cried "Wolf" ?
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Of course if they keep proposing it via 'rumor' enough that we ignore it, sometime they will porpose it for REAL, and we'll ignore it, and when it passes, they win. They are dishonest and pretty stupid, but not stupid enough not to try that kind of thing.

So keep your eyes on them!
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AJMD429 wrote:Of course if they keep proposing it via 'rumor' enough that we ignore it, sometime they will porpose it for REAL, and we'll ignore it, and when it passes, they win. They are dishonest and pretty stupid, but not stupid enough not to try that kind of thing.

So keep your eyes on them!
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BS, but only for now. You know this is one of the things they'd love to do... :evil:
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They gotta figure a way at some point to hook us and crook us without a vote, something crippling to gun owners. Glad this was BS, Ill go out spread it around my tomato plants, manure belongs there.
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Seems far fetched, doesn't it?

Kinda like outlawing pocket-knives.

:shock: :wink:
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FWiedner wrote:Seems far fetched, doesn't it?

Kinda like outlawing pocket-knives.

:shock: :wink:
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