OT.. Appaloosa cowboy movie

big bear · Post by **big bear** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 1:10 pm

Football season over so watching movies again with the ol'lady. Saw "W" lastnight. Has anyone seen the newish western Appaloosa? Any good? My kids rented the new Batman for us over holidays, it was better than I expected, the bad guy was really bad.. Mostly the old folks watch old B&W movies, especially Bogart and Bacall.

kimwcook · Post by **kimwcook** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 1:21 pm

I, personally, was disappointed in the movie "Appaloosa". It was correct in it's period of clothing, firearms, etc.. but the movie just never got off the ground for me. I thought Ed Harris could of done a better job.

DavidF · Post by **DavidF** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 1:40 pm

It was enjoyable. Not quite as good as "3:10 to Yuma" but close. Nowhere near as good as "Open Range", but there isn't much that is besides "Lonesome Dove" and maybe "Tombstone". If you like westerns even a little bit you should definitely check it out. Several good gunfight scenes and a couple of great one liners.

Modoc ED · Post by **Modoc ED** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 1:40 pm

The story line was ok but the acting was pretty bad. Rene Zelwigger (sp?) was really, really, bad. The shooting, guns, and the like was pretty good.

Glad I only paid $3.99 to see it on Pay Per View instead of paying $15.00 or so for it in the store. I wouldn't want it in my VHS/DVD collection of Western and War flicks.

Tennessee Hayre · Post by **Tennessee Hayre** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 1:46 pm

It comes on tonite for me at 0:900 Pm. On pay-preview. I plan on watching it tonite. I seen another movie I had all but forgot about. The name of the movie was "Doc". I watched it 2 times and hope to find the movie someday in the old movie stack. Has anyone seen that movie. starring Stacy Keech as Doc.

mklwhite · Post by **mklwhite** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 2:17 pm

Worth seeing if nothing else is on. One of those "worth seeing but not worth going to see" sort of things.

DavidF · Post by **DavidF** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 2:25 pm

Modoc ED wrote: Rene Zelwigger (sp?) was really, really, bad.

Situation Normal.

I think I'll pop in "Open Range"

Tennessee Hayre · Post by **Tennessee Hayre** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 2:33 pm

Although Open Range is a great movie, I have watched it so many times I can almost remember every line in the flick.

Ray Newman · Post by **Ray Newman** » Sun Feb 15, 2009 3:32 pm

The Squeeze & I saw the movie. Like most Hollywood productions, it is just an afternoon's entertainment -- nothing more; nothing less.

"Appaloosa" is one of those films that the viewer likes or doesn't like.

Mokwaw · Post by **Mokwaw** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:24 am

With 5 star rating being the best, I would give it 2.5 at tops.......mainly for the guns and gun action...and period dress........rest was pretty mediocre

2ndovc · Post by **2ndovc** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:26 am

I was dissapointed. Just couldn't get into it. Loved dude and his 8 Gage though

jb

Charles · Post by **Charles** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:19 am

I am a chronic enjoyer of movies. True to type I enjoyed the movie in quesion. I saw it in the threater and rented if again last week. I enjoyed it again.

Str8man · Post by **Str8man** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:24 am

Tennessee Hayre wrote:Although Open Range is a great movie, I have watched it so many times I can almost remember every line in the flick.

I liked Open Range and have it but I always catch myself fast forwarding the chapters to the main gunfight scene.
It may have been better if they would have cast someone besides Kevin Costner to play opposite Robert Duvall.
I thought Costners character portrayal in that movie was flat and he didn't pull off the "Troubled man with a past" well at all.
I also thought the love interest with Annette Benning really developed too fast and was really not very important to the story, She could have been left out all together and it would have made the movie better.
Robert Duvall was born to do westerns but Costner? IDK.
I actually thought Broken Trail was a better movie.
If You would have taken Broken Trail and added the gunfight scene from Open Range and used Thomas Hayden Church instead of Kevin Costner that would have been a great movie.
That is my own personal review of "Open Range" and is worth exactly what you paid to read it.

I haven't seen the Appaloosa movie but have a problem with Ed Harris playing Snipers in war movies and gunslingers as he is such an anti gun twit in real life.
I have a hard time sympathizing with a character when I don't like the person portraying them in real life.

RIHMFIRE · Post by **RIHMFIRE** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:26 am

it was just okay...
my 10 favorite westerns are
Winchester 73 Jimmy Stewart
The Searchers John Wayne
Crossfire Trail Tom Sellect
Rio Bravo John Wayne
Eldorado John Wayne
Lonesome Dove Robert Duvall Tommy Lee Jones
Quick and the Dead Sam Elliot
The Sacketts Tom Sellect & Sam Elliot
7 Men from Now Randolph Scott
Open Range Kevin Costner Robert Duvall

Kevein Costner is working on a new western...
I think it will be call "Hayes" or something like that.

Henry McCann · Post by **Henry McCann** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 5:21 pm

Kind of a quirky movie...I did like Viggo Mortensen as Hitch.

86er · Post by **86er** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 5:25 pm

I like it better than 3:10 to Yuma.

flb · Post by **flb** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:27 pm

Have watched a million western and rimfire and I agree on most. Sam Elliot and Kate Capshaw in "Quick and the Dead" is about my favorite. Ok, I admit Capshaw is about the sexiest woman I have ever seen, at least in this movie. Other than that the Searchers does it for me. All good though. Agree on Costner, he is a royal PIA as far as I'm concerned.

Noah Zark · Post by **Noah Zark** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:20 am

My wife and I rented it, and I have to say that although we enjoyed it, I can understand how some didn't. Yes, Miss Zellwiger can't act, but (in my opinion) one of the reasons that people either like or dislike this movie may have to do with the laconic dialogue between the two good guys.

Robert B Parker (Spenser & Hawk, Jesse Stone, Sunny Randall, etc.) wrote the original book by the same name, and when Ed Harris decided to produce the movie he stayed pretty much true to the characteristic Parker short dialogue. Therefore, fans of Robert B Parker's Spenser novels may well appreciate Appaloosa better than those who are not familiar with Parker's works.

Noah

Buck Elliott · Post by **Buck Elliott** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:16 pm

Life in the Old West wasn't all about catchy dialogue and blazing action... Not even in the peacekeeping business.

Cole & Hitch have been working together for a long time, and what passes between them is old and comfortable, with only an occasional dash of pepper for flavor. If you've worked closely with a man for many years, you get the drift pretty easy; otherwise it flies right over your head. Their concerted disdain for miscreants is palpable, as it would (and should) be.

Life in many parts of today's West is not all that different from what is portrayed in the film, and having been there for many many moons (still there, FWIW) I am fortunate and grounded enough to "get" it...

Ms Zellweger's character isn't necessarily 'simpatico' in the first place. she's a woman of "negotiable virtue," who's just trying to survive as best she can, and her approach to life, truth & the American Way is just a little off center...

Saw it at the local magic-lantern house, and bought myself a DVD copy as soon as it hit the retail shelf....

txbirdman · Post by **txbirdman** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 1:28 pm

I didn't think much of the movie. It started good but seemed to drag and turn into a "chick flick" by the end. Of course, my favoite western by far is Outlaw Josey Wales for it's "one liners" especially by Chief Dan George and authentic weapons and historical relevance.

Warhawk · Post by **Warhawk** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 2:04 pm

I liked it, my wife didn't. One of the things I like about it is true of most newer westerns, not everybody in the west carried a 92 Winchester and a Colt SAA. I don't care for Rene Zellweger in anything, and don't understand the attraction. Tom Selleck would have made a lot better Virgil Cole than Ed Harris, but it was his movie.

I liked the ending, where Hitch just couldn't let that *** go on living.

Slick13 · Post by **Slick13** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 2:15 pm

Was underwhelmed when I saw it in theaters. Rented it recently and liked it a lot better.

Never could quite understand Virgil's attraction to Ally, especially after he learned of her weakness. I'd have shot her, or let the Indians have her.

I enjoyed Hitch's character, but the 8 gauge was used more as a prop than a weapon.

~Michael

Old No7 · Post by **Old No7** » Sun Mar 29, 2009 6:41 pm

Thought I missed this one months ago, and then it showed up on the marquee over in Boothbay Harbor, just down the road a piece. After a nice meal at the harbor's Chinese food restaurant, my bride and I went to see Appaloosa...

"Underwhelmed" is how someone else described it -- yup, that works for me too...

It was so poor -- compared to all the hype -- they should have called it "Appa-LOSER".

Could have spent that money on reloading supplies

but at least we had a great supper.

Old No7

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Sun Mar 29, 2009 9:43 pm

I recently bought the DVD... and while I've enjoyed what I remember of it... I've fallen asleep 3 times trying to watch it to the end.

Streetstar · Post by **Streetstar** » Sun Mar 29, 2009 9:53 pm

flb wrote:Have watched a million western and rimfire and I agree on most. Sam Elliot and Kate Capshaw in "Quick and the Dead" is about my favorite. Ok, I admit Capshaw is about the sexiest woman I have ever seen, at least in this movie. Other than that the Searchers does it for me. All good though. Agree on Costner, he is a royal PIA as far as I'm concerned.

are you guys serious? i think i like the version with Sharon Stone better . Capshaw is a fine drink a water, but i thought the movie was boring

RIHMFIRE · Post by **RIHMFIRE** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:03 pm

Streetstar wrote:
flb wrote:Have watched a million western and rimfire and I agree on most. Sam Elliot and Kate Capshaw in "Quick and the Dead" is about my favorite. Ok, I admit Capshaw is about the sexiest woman I have ever seen, at least in this movie. Other than that the Searchers does it for me. All good though. Agree on Costner, he is a royal PIA as far as I'm concerned.
are you guys serious? i think i like the version with Sharon Stone better . Capshaw is a fine drink a water, but i thought the movie was boring

Sharon "I'm a slut" Stone...and Leonarda DeCRAPio
SUCKED...in that movie...not to mention the plot...
I cant believe Gene Hackman
even shared the same set with those two IDIOTS

GoatGuy · Post by **GoatGuy** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:44 pm

RIHMFIRE - Can't blame you for your comment regarding DeCapprio. Would have nothing to viewing any of his movies, ...until the wife and I watched. "Blood Diamond". What a story and acting job by DeCap. Then a couple of weeks ago we saw him in "Body of Lies". Another DeCapprio tour de force in a very good movie. Watched it twice and it was even better the second time. Wouldn't have believed it was him in either movie if he hadn't been top billed in both of those flicks.

Sorry for the hijack of the Appalosa thread, but thought I would provide a couple of options for two great action/drama movies with a "different" DeCapprio.

Gun Smith · Post by **Gun Smith** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:58 pm

Ok, now that we brought it up, who should have played Cosner's role in Open Range?

Tennessee Hayre · Post by **Tennessee Hayre** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:35 pm

I liked old Kevin in open range, but if they were another person to play it i would pick "Russel Crow, the way he talks would have the movie as well or maybe, "Slim Pickings" JUST JOKING. I think Thomas church should have played in both Open Range and Broken Trail.

dennie · Post by **dennie** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:19 pm

I bought it for the good review in Guns Of The Old West magazine. Now I remember why I quit buying magazines!

Griff, not to worry, the sleeping part had to be better than the watching part! I blew 20 bucks on this one. Ed Harris and Renee Zellwigger, sooooooo bad! OOPs, can't find the little "upchuck" smiley.

Streetstar · Post by **Streetstar** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 8:21 pm

RIHMFIRE wrote:[
Sharon "I'm a slut" Stone...I cant believe Gene Hackman
even shared the same set with those two IDIOTS

Sharon Stone is probably the only reason i even watched it ------ hubba hubba

I thought it had a Lance Henrikson cameo too I loved his "Millenium" series ---

Streetstar · Post by **Streetstar** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 8:25 pm

Gun Smith wrote:Ok, now that we brought it up, who should have played Cosner's role in Open Range?

Kevin Costner did it great in my mind. Viggo Mortenson could have done it. Selleck is too cool to have a "past" -- the man is right here and right now.

If i had to branch beyond this genre' (which is shrinking) -- i'd say Luke Wilson could do it , plus the guy who played Woodrow Call in Comanche Moon.

Daniel Craig if it wasnt for the british accent part

Captain America · Post by **Captain America** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:18 pm

I would have watched the movie and I even made an effort to catch him on a show talking about it. The part that made the movie disappear was when he was done talking about he launched into a song and dance about how much he disliked George Bush. Poof the movie went off my radar.

Travis Morgan · Post by **Travis Morgan** » Wed Apr 01, 2009 2:58 pm

kimwcook wrote:I, personally, was disappointed in the movie "Appaloosa". It was correct in it's period of clothing, firearms, etc.. but the movie just never got off the ground for me. I thought Ed Harris could of done a better job.

Ed Harris is one of my favorites, but he's always a little too.... wooden?

Streetstar · Post by **Streetstar** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 11:59 am

Warhawk wrote: I don't care for Rene Zellweger in anything, and don't understand the attraction.
I liked the ending, where Hitch just couldn't let that *** go on living.

Boy -- finally finished this movie ! --- Its daylight savings time now and i am usually doing something outside until dark, so i can never pop a movie in until 9pm or so --- then i last 20 minutes before visiting the sandman

Zellweger is irritating --- probably more so for the character than her personally. The time frame of this movie is maybe 3 or 4 weeks ---- there was a name (and still is to some degree) for a woman who would sleep with 3 men in that short a time frame

The end did kick tail though

J Miller · Post by **J Miller** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 2:15 pm

My wife and I enjoyed the movie. We rented it first and I told her to buy it when she sees it at WalMart.
I actually liked Rene Zellweger's part. She really played the part of an insecure person who was attracted to power and whoever would feed her the best tidbits. I've worked in the same company with women who did these things, and she got the part down pat.

As for the action in the movie I'm thinking that kind of stuff is what we need now. Bad guys = behave or die.

Joe

Travis Morgan · Post by **Travis Morgan** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 4:09 pm

Streetstar wrote: Zellweger is irritating --- probably more so for the character than her personally. The time frame of this movie is maybe 3 or 4 weeks ---- there was a name (and still is to some degree) for a woman who would sleep with 3 men in that short a time frame

For the longest time, I thought it was "Mom". As for Zelweger being irritating, there is very little about her that doesn't irritate the stuff out of me; she does about 10 different accents, and sucks at all of them, and she always looks like she just got a mouthful of really sour milk.

J Miller wrote:I actually liked Rene Zellweger's part. She really played the part of an insecure person who was attracted to power and whoever would feed her the best tidbits.
Joe

She seems to be that way in real life.

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 4:42 pm

Well, I finally saw the end. Only took two more tries... once starting in the middle, and then lastly starting at the "shootout" scene. I liked it... especially the ending. Hitch did good!

Edit: Hate that single click button!

Demonstrates that period of time before political correctness and lack of personal responsibility that it was not uncommon for past deeds to catch up to you. Hitch may have not been the most moral of persons... but his sense of right, wrong and justice was spot on. Viggo did a good job. As usual, self directed films have poor performances by the star/director (generalization... sure there's a few exceptions).

SFRanger7GP · Post by **SFRanger7GP** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 6:25 pm

I enjoyed Apaloosa. Westerns are like guns. I never saw one I didn't like but I have seen a lot I wouldn't buy.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Sat Apr 18, 2009 9:32 am

Doesn't anyone remember the original "Appaloosa" movie with Marlon Brando, Anjeanette Comer and John Saxon?

J Miller · Post by **J Miller** » Sat Apr 18, 2009 9:41 am

El Guapo wrote:Doesn't anyone remember the original "Appaloosa" movie with Marlon Brando, Anjeanette Comer and John Saxon?

Nope, never heard of the "original" one. Never liked Brando either.

Joe

jd45 · Post by **jd45** » Sat Apr 18, 2009 9:51 am

Yes, I do. jd45

rangerider7 · Post by **rangerider7** » Sat Apr 18, 2009 1:33 pm

I will take ANY western over most movies today.

gamekeeper · Post by **gamekeeper** » Sat Apr 18, 2009 3:12 pm

rangerider7 wrote:I will take ANY western over most movies today.

Amen to that.

Travis Morgan · Post by **Travis Morgan** » Sat Apr 18, 2009 8:02 pm

El Guapo wrote:Doesn't anyone remember the original "Appaloosa" movie with Marlon Brando, Anjeanette Comer and John Saxon?

That movie was a turd if there ever was one, but it had an awful lot of great one liners.