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Old Ironsights · Post by **Old Ironsights** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 9:23 pm

Cook County (Illinois)Board Poised to Shut Down Cabela's Superstore

CHICAGO, Dec. 9 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- The following was released today by the Illinois State Rifle Association (ISRA):

Just weeks after its gala grand opening, the Cabela's superstore in Hoffman Estates, IL is facing closure by the Cook County (IL) Board. This impending action stems from a pair of proposed county ordinances prohibiting the retail sale of firearms at a location 15 miles or less from any other federally licensed firearm dealer. The proposals further prohibit retail sale of firearms within one mile of any school, church, place of worship, nursing home, homeless shelter, public housing, or military installation. With respect to these restrictions, Cabela's Hoffman Estates store loses on all counts - as does every other federally-licensed gun dealer in Cook County.

"This proposal is an election year stunt instigated by Cook County Commissioner, Larry Suffredin," said ISRA Executive Director, Richard Pearson. "Although this is something that we'd expect to see from a gun-control extremist like Suffredin, I'm surprised to see astute politicians like Commissioners Claypool, Quigley, and Murphy signing on as co-sponsors to this farce."

"Cabela's Hoffman Estates store employs hundreds of Cook County residents and brings in millions of sales tax dollars for the County," continued Pearson. "If Cabela's cannot sell firearms, then there is no Cabela's. If there is no Cabela's, then those retail dollars flee to DuPage, Kane or Will counties. The cash-strapped Cook County treasury really can't afford such a huge hit just because Larry Suffredin doesn't like people who own guns."

"From a practical standpoint, Suffredin's proposal is a non-starter," commented Pearson. "It bears repeating that the Chicago Police department has determined that 88% of murderers have previous criminal records as do 76% of murder victims. Federally-licensed firearm dealers are not the problem - career criminals are."

"Furthermore", continued Pearson. "When was the last known case where someone walks out the door of a gun shop, in the door of a nursing home, and then proceeds to shoot the place up? The same Chicago Police Department report lists alleyways as being popular places to get murdered. Why then, did Suffredin not specify that no gun shop could be within one mile of an alley? The reason is simple - shock value. Suffredin prefers to play on the plight of our most vulnerable citizens in order to advance his quixotic campaign to disarm hunters and sportsmen. Commonsense is not part of the Suffredin lexicon."

"One insidious side-effect of the Suffredin proposal is that it deeply erodes the home-rule authority of many of the larger communities in Cook County," noted Pearson.

"The Suffredin proposal is expensive, ineffective, divisive and impractical," said Pearson. "I hope that Board President Stroger has the wisdom to immediately reject Suffredin's showboating."

The ISRA is the state's leading advocate of safe, lawful and responsible firearms ownership. Since 1903, the ISRA has represented the interests of over 1.5 Million law-abiding Illinois firearm owners.

SOURCE Illinois State Rifle Association

DDude · Post by **DDude** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 10:46 pm

Cabela's will simply be more careful in choosing locations for their stores in the future by doing extensive checks into the zoning laws, etc. In the meanwhile the Cook County Board can face the wrath of it's unemployed residents and loss of tax revenue. Cutting of one's nose to spite one's face comes to mind.

Post by **Old Savage** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:54 pm

My utter disdain for democrats is due to this sort of thing along with almost all their other positions. Let me soften that - almost utter.

Junior · Post by **Junior** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 7:32 am

Old Savage wrote:My utter disdain for democrats is due to this sort of thing along with almost all their other positions. Let me soften that - almost utter.

I feel the same way about Republicans, especially the anti-gun Republicans.

Post by **AmBraCol** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 11:29 am

Junior wrote:
Old Savage wrote:My utter disdain for democrats is due to this sort of thing along with almost all their other positions. Let me soften that - almost utter.
I feel the same way about Republicans, especially the anti-gun Republicans.

Well, I'll top you both with my disdain for BOTH parties and ALL career politicians of ANY affiliation.

Post by **Ysabel Kid** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 11:52 am

AmBraCol wrote:
Junior wrote:
Old Savage wrote:My utter disdain for democrats is due to this sort of thing along with almost all their other positions. Let me soften that - almost utter.
I feel the same way about Republicans, especially the anti-gun Republicans.
Well, I'll top you both with my disdain for BOTH parties and ALL career politicians of ANY affiliation.

+1 - though my disdain for GOPer tends to be reserved for those who act like Dem's - which most of them do. Barely a soul in Washington actually follows the Constitution...

hillclimber · Post by **hillclimber** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 11:52 am

Old Savage wrote:My utter disdain for democrats is due to this sort of thing along with almost all their other positions. Let me soften that - almost utter.

Just replace democrats with liberals and you have a winner.

Old Ironsights · Post by **Old Ironsights** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 12:21 pm

AmBraCol wrote:
Junior wrote:
Old Savage wrote:My utter disdain for democrats is due to this sort of thing along with almost all their other positions. Let me soften that - almost utter.
I feel the same way about Republicans, especially the anti-gun Republicans.
Well, I'll top you both with my disdain for BOTH parties and ALL career politicians of ANY affiliation.

+1 Revolution.

The Treasonous Feinds who approved Tattooing a Judenstern on Innocent People should be lined against the Wall...

But, of course, they didn't have a Roll Call Vote, so noone knowes who they are.

Fine. Shoot them all.

BruceB · Post by **BruceB** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 3:23 pm

Junior wrote:
Old Savage wrote:My utter disdain for democrats is due to this sort of thing along with almost all their other positions. Let me soften that - almost utter.
I feel the same way about Republicans, especially the anti-gun Republicans.

Where some of us live, there doesn't seem to be anything but anti-gun Demonkrats.

Old Ironsights · Post by **Old Ironsights** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 3:31 pm

BruceB wrote:
Junior wrote:
Old Savage wrote:My utter disdain for democrats is due to this sort of thing along with almost all their other positions. Let me soften that - almost utter.
I feel the same way about Republicans, especially the anti-gun Republicans.
Where some of us live, there doesn't seem to be anything but anti-gun Demonkrats.

Well, look at it this way...

You're surrounded. That simplifies things.

Need ammo?

jd45 · Post by **jd45** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 4:07 pm

And where are we to turn.......Ron Paul??? Seems like we oughta fall back on Thomas Jefferson's idea, "We need a revolution about every 20 years or so". But I have to say, I can't understand why Cabela's would invest so much money in this new facility, and I've been to it a few times, without testing the waters, so to speak. I may be wrong, but I don't know. jd45

Birdman · Post by **Birdman** » Wed Dec 26, 2007 4:54 pm

Ill Annoy. I always hear that I should just up and leave. I'd like to. But, I got a good job with good bennies, and a few health issues. I'll stay for now and we'll keep fighting. Mr. Pearson is a good man, and the ISRA is trying. The problem is, about 3/4 of the population of the entire state is in the Chicago area. They are mostly socialist who dictate their policy through the whole state. Chicago policy runs all the way to Cairo, and down state lawmakers cater to them in hope of helping their districts. Come retirement time, I'll be packing my bags.

1886 · Post by **1886** » Wed Dec 26, 2007 5:41 pm

Most politicians understand one thing, power. Votes are power. Vote them out and take their power. Make them think about their foolish mistake everyday they are out of office. Good Luck. 1886.

J Miller · Post by **J Miller** » Wed Dec 26, 2007 5:57 pm

Birdman wrote:Ill Annoy. I always hear that I should just up and leave. I'd like to. But, I got a good job with good bennies, and a few health issues. I'll stay for now and we'll keep fighting. Mr. Pearson is a good man, and the ISRA is trying. The problem is, about 3/4 of the population of the entire state is in the Chicago area. They are mostly socialist who dictate their policy through the whole state. Chicago policy runs all the way to Cairo, and down state lawmakers cater to them in hope of helping their districts. Come retirement time, I'll be packing my bags.

Yep, those in Chicago and East ST Louis out number the rest of the state by a bunch.
About the only way we could make a difference would be for every single person 18 and over that lives elsewhere in this state to vote three times. I'm not even sure that would be enough.

What we really need is a big earth quake to cause Chicago to sink into the lake. That would help a lot.

Joe