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Just got from a weeks vacation in Scotland with my bride.
packed the 94 trapper as usual and tried for a roe buck but when I did get a shot (@ 160paces) I missed! I foolishly shot just over the top of him! He was side on perfect too!
I got two fox though here is the first,
Took him at about 70 odd yards, he was very kind, he let me recock the hammer after it failed to fire!
I think a combination of having the timber behind me and my hands and face covered and a small white dog with me helped to captivate him.
Shortly after I made my way back towards the car, about a 600yd walk. I removed my mask and gloves thinking no deer will show now and winding the tree line aswell, guess what? Two roe appeared from no where in front of me and ran towards the car. The buck in the two stopped at something like 150 yds so I took aim. Just passed him I could just make out the roof of the wifes car so I eased the hammer down, I aint prepared to get in Tia's bed again so soon!
More to follow.
Here is another view of the first fox, I was in the tree line near the dead looking trees. If you look down the stone wall you can see a little white blob, thats Tia watching me as I told her to stay there. Tia incidently has come home covered in ticks!
Here you see Tia retrieving the second fox, she is very warey of the fact it's head is trailing close to her rear and is growling at the fox at the same time, kinder funny me thinks.
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This is the second fox shot in tha same area and at 40 odd yards.
He was facing away from us when I let fly and hit him in the rear neck and the bullet exiting under his right eye. He never felt a thing!
Now then guys a question. I have noticed that the rising locking bolt on my 94 can and does not fully rise. If I close the action slowly it is low if I close it fast it is higher. If I push the bottom plate in to the action which does not fit flush with the reciever unless I do, the bolt comes up even higher! Also it is easy to see the head spacing change when doing this, surly this can not help accurate shooting?
I have allways suffered flyers no matter what load I use. I am seriously considering trying to tune this out, it is as if the lever is fouling the complete return of the floor plate.
What ya think?
Nath,
If you were on this side of the water, the easy answer would be see your local gunsmith.
But you are not here, hopefully one of our Winchester guru's can recognize & diagnose your problem from afar.
Looks like nice country. Does your 94 have a rebounding hammer?
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OS, we were staying in Glenluce in south west Scotland. The forest I was hunting in is called Gass forest next to Artfield fell (which is shown on most maps). An old hunting friend has the rights to thousands of acres up there and lets me check this patch freely when I we go. A truelly wonderfull gesture.
Yes Kirk, it does have a rebounding hammer, is it significant?
Nath wrote:
Yes Kirk, it does have a rebounding hammer, is it significant?
Nath.
Possibly. I noticed you had cartridge that did not fire. Several folks on this forum who have Winchester '86s with rebounding hammers have experienced misfires due to too weak a hammer strike. I've not heard of it in a 94, but it could be related. The rebounding mechanism can sometimes take too much energy out of the hammer strike, resulting in a failure to fire. I think it is easily fixed, however, though I don't know the procedure.
Kirk: An old geezer who loves the smell of freshly turned earth, old cedar rail fences, wood smoke, a crackling fireplace on a snowy evening, pristine wilderness lakes, the scent of
cedars and a magnificent Whitetail buck framed in the semi-buckhorn sights of a 120-year old Winchester. Blog: https://www.kirkdurston.com/
It was the first miss fire with this 94, I was thinking that if the locking bolt is not rising enough and thus increasing head space slightly if it could take some of the percussion away from the hammer. More importantly I am concerned about any inconsistancy there being reflected in the potential of any given loading.
Can you (or anybody else) close the lever with different speeds and get the bolt to rise to different amounts each time?
Again, Nath, you've outdone yourself. Great photos and good story. Yep, you're probably right about not shootin' the car! Wouldn't have helped the honeymoon at all!
As to the locking lug not rising... Is the link flush with the bottom of the receiver went you close the lever all the way? If it is - you'll have to disassemble the rifle. Check for wear on the bottom of the slot the locking lug rides in on the back of the link or the bottom edge of the locking lug "feet" that ride in that slot. If this looks ok, check for wear around the lever/link pin in either the link (which should be a roll pin), or if there's any "enlargement" in the slot in the lever the pin rides thru. As I recall, those are the only bearing surfaces that would affect the height the locking lug rises to. Well, there is the lower tang, which has a couple of small tabs on its fore end that act as a stop for the link rising into the receiver. But... the only time I've had an issue with that is fitting a new style lower tang in an older receiver with an older link also.
Below is about the only pic I have of the areas in question:
Link: #55
lever/link pin: #59
Locking lug: #84
Lever: #63
Here's a pic of the lower tang that shows the "tabs":
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Griff, thanks for your reply.
Item #55 in the drawing is not rising flush in to the reciever but I can thumb it in and raise the bolt some more. Once thumbed the lever it self is trying to lower it back out again!
I was wondering if the lever is bent wrong!
The gun is young and not shot more than a thousand rounds.
The weather bigbore was wet for the first two days on southwest winds. The third day was better but regular drizzle, no deer were showing on those days but I found plenty places they had lay up outside the dripping trees. The next three days warmed some and had some sun, whilst driving around with my wife I was suddenly spotting deer and so it was that I started to see them in the forest too
If the lock up of the rifle is inconsistent, I'd refrain from shooting it until you get it fixed. Firing a rifle out of battery could have dire consequences
