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As president, John McCain intends to once again attempt to force his program of "Comprehensive immigration Reform" onto the American People.
Rather than complying with the expressed will of the American People and enforcing existing immigration law by securing our nation's border, apprehending, prosecuting, and expelling tens of millions of criminals who have entered this nation illegally, John McCain intends to implement the plan that he formulated with the assistance of Ted Kennedy to simply circumvent and change existing laws in order to grant amnesty, give jobs and money, provide welfare benefits, and eventually give U.S. citizenship to each and every one of these millions of criminal invaders.
So the Dems should vote for him as that is their plan as well. Indeed BHO wants to give ILLEGAL immigrants health care (as if they don't get it now just by walking into any emergency room).
Sincerely,
Hobie
"We are all travelers in the wilderness of this world, and the best that we find in our travels is an honest friend." Robert Louis Stevenson
Part of my retirement package is that they take money from the total amount for health care.
I have lived in this country for most of my life, and paid taxes, etc.
If I have to pay for mine, why should someone who just came here, & up to thus point in time has not contributed to the infastructure; be able to receive it free of charge?
This is a plan doomed to failure, the revenue base is not there to support it.
All a mute point IMHO. We are not going to have money to pay for anything very soon the way things are headed.
We already have debt so far beyond repayment that it's almost an impossiblity to pay if down.
I am very afraid that we are going to see the worse economic crash in the history of this country - and it will spread to the rest of the world as well.
People are crticisizing Bush for throwing money at the failing banks and financial institutions (and I too hate to see this) but it is the only way to head off an immediate economic plummet.
But I think it's only a bandaid and will not stop the eventual complete crash.
Pay off all of your debt if possible - that is the only thing I can think of to "protect" ourselves from this coming crash.
I wish I could do it quicker than I'm doing right now.... I need to get more serious about it - sell off anything that we don't really need to get it done - like many of my guns....
I'm voting for McCain because I think he may just take some drastic measures to head this off - like cutting all foreign aid, cutting all domestic giveaway programs, etc. - but that's just a hope. That wouldn't eliminate the debt, but it may make it managable.
One thing is for sure, BHO will increase taxes and try to throw more money at the problem - which will do nothing but speed up the inevitable.
O.S.O.K. wrote:I'm voting for McCain because I think he may just take some drastic measures to head this off - like cutting all foreign aid, cutting all domestic giveaway programs, etc. - but that's just a hope. That wouldn't eliminate the debt, but it may make it managable.
One thing is for sure, BHO will increase taxes and try to throw more money at the problem - which will do nothing but speed up the inevitable.
Yeah, but the debt that Bush is demanding the taxpayers pick up the slack for is NOT the NATION'S debt, it is CORPORATE debt. Bush is using public money to pay off the private debts of corporate America. His cronies.
And even if McCain cuts all the aid to whomever and whatever, is he going to cut taxes? Or is he also going to demand that the American taxpayers pay for debt that doesn't belong to them?
Government office attracts the power-mad, yet it's people who just want to be left alone to live life on their own terms who are considered dangerous.
History teaches that it's a small window in which people can fight back before it is too dangerous to fight back.
This illegal immigration is probley the toughest problem we face and I dont have a realistic answer. This got out of hand many years ago and gets worse daily. We are at the point that we are despite the many things that should have been long ago. It is easy to offer up a pipe dream with saying round em up, ship em back, shoot em etc. Lets get real and try to come up with realistic solutions. There used to be a Bassaro program back in the 50s that eisenhower had. Basicly then let migrates up to pick crops, but many stayed. It makes us all mad to see gangs, graffitti, see the druggers and criminals in court etc. That is what we automaticly picture when the subject comes up. And it is all fact too, that apox 30 percent of everybody nation wide in jail are illegals, all the welfare and other problems. Still, I and probley all of us have met gentil hard working wetbacks that are just trying to exist. Putting them all on a train isnt feasable, and would look to the world like hitler shipping off the jews.
My best answer to this is even more war like. If we werent so spread out in the world and had our military here, I seriusly would recomend going into mexico, takeing it over, purge their corruption, put in good leaders, and HAND THE COUNTRY back to them. I belive the biggest part of the illegals and ALSO a big part of legal mexican heritage people would gladley go back there entirely on their own!!
O.S.O.K. wrote:...Pay off all of your debt if possible - that is the only thing I can think of to "protect" ourselves from this coming crash.
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Why? How? I've got no money now. What good will throwing it away just before the Crash do?
Let it crash. I'm cool with that. This country needs a good purging again. Best to do it NOW while a few of us still have guns enough to win.
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Wasn't it during the Clinton mishap that the illegals were given amnesty? then citizenship? and then MY social security? All of this lead by the "P" word? (Pelosi) We are training a whole new bunch of dependents for those of us who work to support.
the only real answer is economic opportunity down there, which is stifled by corruption and the drug cartels. A friend of mine who is originally from Ciudad Juarez said that in the main street of that city there are no businesses open due to violence from the cartels. Illegal immigrants are more like refugees.
I'd be in favor of wiping out the cartels with military intervention, maybe a collaboration between the Mexican government and ours. But they have other corruption problems as well. So who knows if that would work. How about a surge to the south?
"I'll tell you what living is. You get up when you feel like it. You fry yourself some eggs. You see what kind of a day it is."
My compadres' uncle was killed by the cartels about 3 months ago,
that is a little close to home; but having said that, none of us are/were surprised.
Those of us with connections to Mexico have always known what a violent/lawless place it is.
Granted it has become more prevalent recently, but it is not new; only a different form.
Gone are the days when the old Don's controlled the place and everyone behaved in a gentlemanly fashion.
My debt is paid down, the move is underway, I should be fine.
But I fear for my fellows.
Regardless, we should not be bailing out Corrupt Corporations...They(Corporate America) would throw you under the bus in a pair of seconds. Discusting stuff indeed....Corporate America really sucks...but so do politicians.
Hobie wrote:So the Dems should vote for him as that is their plan as well. Indeed BHO wants to give ILLEGAL immigrants health care (as if they don't get it now just by walking into any emergency room).
+1
And, BTW, they do just that. A few years back I was in Las Vegas at a trade show. Was walking down the sidewalk adjacent to the strip, right between the Monte Carlo and the NY, NY casinos, when a taxi cab driver hit me in the cross walk. Threw me up on the hood and against the windshield then pitched me out onto the strip. Darn lucky I didn't get nailed by something moving really fast. I went to the emergency room, where about 50 people were waiting. Signs in Spanish and English all over the place declared that people had the right to be treated regardless of their ability to pay. I noticed that no one there looked injured (but me) - no one was bleeding, in obvious pain, ice bags, etc. Just coughs and sneezes. While I waited - 3 hours - another 25 or so people came in. No one was called back during that entire time. I got up and left - much to the consternation of the staff. I flew back the next day and went to my own hospital where I was admitted within 10 minutes. By then my ankle was very swollen and I couldn't walk on it. No broken bones - just twisted the heck our of my ankle and was black and blue from head to toe on my right side where the taxi hit me.
And they wonder why hospitals are going out of business right and left...
Mr. FWiedner, don't you understand how the democrats will be brutal in taxing the Amero? McCain is the only choice to lead the NAU!
Bunkloco
“We, as a group, now have a greater moral responsibility to act than those who live in ignorance, once you become knowledgeable you have an obligation to do something about it.” Ron Paul
FWiedner wrote:Yeah, but the debt that Bush is demanding the taxpayers pick up the slack for is NOT the NATION'S debt, it is CORPORATE debt. Bush is using public money to pay off the private debts of corporate America. His cronies.
Last time I checked, Congress controlled America's purse strings.
