An interesting trend--

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Streetstar wrote: Is it Switzerland, Sweden or Finland that has a national rifle program? - One country does (or did) - but i thought it was letting their citizens keep their service rifle after their mandatory military duty tour
Swiss - they issue the rifle, which is now a select-fire 5.56, and it is kept at home by the soldier, kept at home when he transfers to reserves, and the can be purchased by the soldier for a minimal fee at the end of service. There is a reason they have been able to maintain their neutrality. Shooting sports are also a very strong part of the culture there, and marksmanship is emphasized. In fact it has been historically tied to the Swiss view of liberty and national security. Remember William Tell?

There is a story from Switzerland that illustrates their historic emphasis on accurate shooters with accurate rifles.
In 1912 Kaiser Wilhelm II of Germany visited Switzerland. As the prospect of war was looming on the horizon, with the Germans especially eager to build an empire, the Swiss realized that the Kaiser viewed Switzerland as a possible conquest. In an effort to discourage the germans, the Swiss staged a demonstration of military skills for him, especially marksmanship exhibitions.

As the Kaiser observed the Swiss army exhibition, Swiss President Forrer told him that, “we have the resolute intention of protecting our independence against any attack on this, our dearest possession, and of upholding our neutrality against anyone who fails to respect it.”

During one of the marksmanship exhibitions, the Kaiser reportedly walked up beside a somewhat older reservist who was shooting and said, "This is all very fine, but what will your 250,000 soldiers do when I invade with half a million Prussians?"

The reservist replied, "Then, Sir, we will each fire two bullets."

If you don't have a Swiss K31, you should. Every one i have seen has a bore like a mirror and shoots like you would not believe. Surpluss ammo is all match grade. The Swiss manual has several pages dedicated just to the care of the bore.
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I always heard it was, 'Shoot twice....and go home."
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Grizz wrote:saw a video of the 556 steel penetrator putting a hole through a 1/4" steel plate. a quarter inch plate isn't that great a barrier, but I suspect it would stop a 30-30 round. For comparison, the 99F puts a 150gr sp .308 clean thru a free hanging 1/2" thick stainless plate. I don't think the 556 will get there.
Many years ago after trying many different bullets in a semi auto .223 I settled on the Rem. 55gr HP bullet for everyday use.

It feeds every bit as good as a FMJ with no nose deformation.

Has a good cannelure

Expands decent in soft tissue yet will penetrate a 3/8 plate at a 100 yrds.

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vancelw wrote:I always heard it was, 'Shoot twice....and go home."
The oldest postcards I saw don't have the go home part.
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All I know is that following the 2012 elections I bought my 1st AR. And yes, fear that they might be banned was part of my decision. I've made some mods to it and have enjoyed it. I've since built one and have 2 more receivers for when I decide how I want them configured.

Best upgrades I've found are a CMC trigger & JP captured buffer & spring.

Even the stock Wyndham SRC is a far better weapon than the Mk4 (basically a suppressed A1). A4 ramps & mag followers are but a couple. Today's AR is more'n a cut above ANY we had in VN! And today's ammo selections are even better yet! The 60 grain ballistic tip Hornadys are excellent. Hopefully they'll perform as well on coyotes as they do on paper!
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All things considered, an M4 is tough to beat, for a survival/defensive longarm.
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