Lyman 1878 (Yeah, I Know) Sharps

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Don McDowell

Re: Lyman 1878 (Yeah, I Know) Sharps

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Unless a person is just stuck on having this Lyman sharps, for those interested in a relatively inexpensive way into the bpcr sport, the C Sharps 1875 model base price is 1370. Winchester bpcr models can be had for 1600 or less, and the Uberti hiwalls can be had for 800-1000.
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Re: Lyman 1878 (Yeah, I Know) Sharps

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Alphawolf45 wrote:Building guns from barstock is my hobby. Had started building a Sharps per drawings of a model 1874 when I happened on the pictures of the Lyman 1878 and love its lines.. Now I am building something as similar in appearance to the Lyman as I can manage. I may show it on this forum when its finished and hope it don't give rise to any sort of conflicts.

Hey I will mention last month I took my home built .45-70 Highwall to my first ever BPCR silhouette match and beat out a couple guys shooting high dollar American made Sharps replicas.

Most of us would love to see "self-built" firearms no matter what they are patterned after.
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Re: Lyman 1878 (Yeah, I Know) Sharps

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Alphawolf45,I have always enjoyed all of your builds, if you can please pu it on from start to finish like the others. It is interesting for us here.
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Re: Lyman 1878 (Yeah, I Know) Sharps

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JerryB wrote:Alphawolf45,I have always enjoyed all of your builds, if you can please pu it on from start to finish like the others. It is interesting for us here.
JerryB This gun building hobby is a personal challenge for me. Rather easy work if have an example gun to copy but gets crazy working from bad drawings and photographs pulled from the net.

I like to show them after they're done ,not so much interested in showing the ongoing work on open forum where folks can critique my work , methods or any decisions that are mine to make. There are "experts" online that have already spoiled that start-to-finish sharing experience for me...... On this forum I have not shown the .45-70 Highwall I finished just a couple months ago.. I'll take some current pictures and start a thread..
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Re: Lyman 1878 (Yeah, I Know) Sharps

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At one time Buffalo Arms sold the drawings for a number of the old rifles, of course they charge a cash price for them, but they are accurate.
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Re: Lyman 1878 (Yeah, I Know) Sharps

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Just resurrecting this old thread to let anyone interested know that Buffalo Arms lists ample stock of these as of today. Mine was ordered and shipped today at their listed price of 1431.89. I have an idea it will be more than ample to suit any needs I have.

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Re: Lyman 1878 (Yeah, I Know) Sharps

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Fella on another board got one from BACO about a month ago. As predicted the rear sight would need to be replaced if one wanted repeatability for different yardage settings.... Only problem is no one is currently making a sight base that fits the thing, it uses an odd hole spacing... Haven't seen anything from him since he was contacting about anybody and everybody that makes sights trying to get some one to commit to building them..
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Re: Lyman 1878 (Yeah, I Know) Sharps

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That would certainly be a problem for someone who competes at different ranges. Mine will be sighted at 100 yards with 405 grain cowboy loads and left there. As I said, more than ample for my needs. Maybe not for everybody's.

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Don McDowell

Re: Lyman 1878 (Yeah, I Know) Sharps

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That guy was wanting to use it for hunting.
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Re: Lyman 1878 (Yeah, I Know) Sharps

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Probably uses Pedersoli Sharps spacing. Not a big deal. In any event, I look forward to seeing one at the matches this summer.
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Re: Lyman 1878 (Yeah, I Know) Sharps

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No Brent it's not Pedersoli spacing. It's a weird space, Gullo is trying to get Kelly to make sights for it and Shaver was going to look at making a sight for it after the guy sent him the tracing of the holes etc.
I'm wondering if they just put a back action lock on a regular 74 action or did they scale it down like a real 77?
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Re: Lyman 1878 (Yeah, I Know) Sharps

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Resurecting an old thread.....The search continued for months to find an American made 1877 Sharps for anywhere under $2000. This quest was without merit. It is not going to hap[pen. The 1877 from both American manufactures will be priced VERY proud. (The C. Sharps is $7500 !!!)

All the prices on C Sharps site do not include the 8.25% fed tax............ Haven't looked at Shiloh's site as I'm not interested in an investment cast receiver.

I did buy a used 1875 C Sharps for a bit under $1400, with C Sharp tang sights and globe with level front. Set trigger, scope blocks and great wood.

I was told I could buy a new one from C Sharps for not much more than this 99.9% used rifle. So I called and inquired. Not close.......with taxes and the same accessories the price was well over $2000

So now I have my 1875 with a horrible 10 pound trigger and a set trigger of 12 pounds.....Yikes! I took the trigger assembly apart and was shocked at the sear condition and angle. An hour with my India stones and few new springs and I got it to break at 3 pounds and the set trigger at 8oz. Hard to believe an American company would let a rifle out of the factory with a trigger like this.

All my Pedersoli rifles have amazing triggers right out of the box. Maybe some one worked on the trigger on the C Sharps as I stated it was a used rifle. But appeared unfired and the screws to remove the trigger did not show any signs of being turned after assembly.

My C Sharps wears a Green Mountain barrel and I have to report I'm impressed with it's accuracy. And the wood to metal fit is simply amazing!

But then again I had the opportunity to finally see and hold a Lyman 1878 and it is a beauty! Fit and finish is as good as any rifle I've ever witnessed. And it has a cut rifle, lapped Pedersoli barrel whose bore looks fantastic. ( Like all Pedersoli barrels) The fellow shooting the Lyman was averaging about 2-2.5" at 100 yds. No idea whether this was the rifle or the shooter.

So I'll keep looking for the under $2000 American made 1877 Sharps........But I might have to give in and order a Lyman 1878 (not to be confused with a Sharps 1878.... :D )
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