I'd not survive the 'corporate' world...

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I'd not survive the 'corporate' world...

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A patient who works in health care recently made a joking comment at work that 'offended' someone who stomped off in a huff. The comment was made to remind eveyone to respect patient privacy. Evidently someone was 'offended' by that and said they said they viewed the comment as a 'threat' and very unprofessional.

Were I to be a supervisor in that scenario, I'm sorry, but I'd tell the 'offended' individual that we at work try to form a cohesive TEAM, and that the MISSION is to provide a product or service, in this case patient-care, and that it is all about the PATIENT, not about any of our individual egos or whether or not we are 'offended'. Such a TEAM cannot function if we have someone on the team who causes everyone else on the team to have to conversationally walk on eggshells to avoid 'triggering' them. So instead of reprimanding the person who made the comment, I'd confront the 'offended' person, and suggest that instead of working in healthcare, they consider becoming a gymnist, since they seem able to put their own head so far up their own rear end that the contortions are truly amazing.

Now I"m sure there would be an 'excuse' about how that person was having a bad day, or is a member of some intersectional-group that is 'oppressed', but I guess one reason employers pay you and have you clock in and out is because you are supposed to leave your PERSONAL issues at home, because at work we really don't want to focus on YOUR 'bad day' or YOUR sense of entitlement or 'victimhood'. We will in fact gather around you if you are having life issues, and we will support you through such things the best we can, however if you expect to continuously be treated as 'special' and somehow better than everyone else because your life is more important than everyone else's, especially if you think your personal issues are more important than what may be going on with patient's lives, it ain't gonna happen. Go be a bartender, and whine to your customers about how sad and sorry your life is, and perhaps they will be more sympathetic than patients, who are fighting cancer, and dementia, and strokes, and really don't care if your life sucks or not.

Too many fragile snowflake types these days. They need to get a grip on reality and quit screwing up everything good and everything productive and everything kind and everything functional. :evil:

Am I just getting old and curmudgeony, or is there a trend over the past 50 year or so that about a third of the population is just becoming a bunch of self-centered, matierialistic, superficial, whiny WIMPS...???
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No Doc, you're not! I keep my mouth shut mist time, but when you watch news, and really think of things today, as to how it was when i first went into the workforce in 1976, it's plain truth of what we've become, for the most part probably? Spoiled, self-centered completely, sacrifice a forgotten word, +!
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Yes, I believe the "whiny-ometer" is red lining bigtime these days.
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I worked in the trades all my career and though it was mainly what you would call a blue collar redneck environment and for the most part had the time of my life.Typical male bonding attitude where people ,joked ,laughed ,picked on each other in fun and was picked on in return .As a young guy entering the work force I was a bit of a shy individual but that was quickly knocked out of me and I am thankful for it.In a nutshell you learned to be a man.Another thing back in those days you had respect for your senior work mates as these were the guys who you were going to learn from.I ve found things changed a lot once women started to be hired and everyone had to start walking on eggs for fear of upsetting anyone and getting sanctioned for it.We live now in a society where it seems that anyone can be offended by the least little thing regardless how ridiculous it seems which is the reason we all have to take sensitivity training once a year.I often wonder what the old guys I started my career with would think of that if they were still alive.

Hardest thing I ve had to do in my life was sit through a sensitivity course with an instructor who was a 6’5” man wearing a dress and I suppose a wig and makeup.Try doing that with a room full of guys trying not to laugh .Was the longest 3hrs of my life
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So many people with their "big feelings" constantly searching for a reason to be offended, the "perennially enraged"...

These people have no sense of humor, and have no joy in their life and would like nothing better than to drag everyone down to their perfect progressive, socialist ideals....
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BRAVO DOC You are 100% correct in your assessment.


Corporate world- no way as I would have hung myself from the ceiling tile grid by my tie the first week! :lol:
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barbarossa wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2024 8:21 am

Hardest thing I ve had to do in my life was sit through a sensitivity course with an instructor who was a 6’5” man wearing a dress and I suppose a wig and makeup.Try doing that with a room full of guys trying not to laugh .Was the longest 3hrs of my life
I honestly don’t think I could do that.
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I was blessed that during the final phase of my career, while I had to deal with corporations, I mostly dealt with old guys like myself. People with whom a handshake was better than any contract ever written.
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AJMD429 wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2024 5:54 am ...we at work try to form a cohesive TEAM, and that the MISSION is to provide a product or service, in this case patient-care, and that it is all about the PATIENT, not about any of our individual egos or whether or not we are 'offended'. Such a TEAM cannot function if we have someone on the team who causes everyone else ...
But there is an "I" in TEAM Doc -- check it out!!
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AJMD429 wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2024 5:54 am Am I just getting old and curmudgeony, or is there a trend over the past 50 year or so that about a third of the population is just becoming a bunch of self-centered, matierialistic, superficial, whiny WIMPS...???
I do think you're wrong Doc... For those under 30 -- it's about 85%!!!

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Scott Tschirhart wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2024 5:09 pm
barbarossa wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2024 8:21 am

Hardest thing I ve had to do in my life was sit through a sensitivity course with an instructor who was a 6’5” man wearing a dress and I suppose a wig and makeup.Try doing that with a room full of guys trying not to laugh .Was the longest 3hrs of my life
I honestly don’t think I could do that.
I know I could not. :evil:
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Old No7 wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2024 7:14 pm But there is an "I" in TEAM Doc -- check it out!!

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Old No7 wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2024 7:14 pm
I do think you're wrong Doc... For those under 30 -- it's about 85%!!!

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Scott Tschirhart wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2024 5:09 pm
barbarossa wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2024 8:21 am

Hardest thing I ve had to do in my life was sit through a sensitivity course with an instructor who was a 6’5” man wearing a dress and I suppose a wig and makeup.Try doing that with a room full of guys trying not to laugh .Was the longest 3hrs of my life
I honestly don’t think I could do that.
Wow me neither....

Now on the other hand because my wife spent years in the arts, we have a lot of gay friends and some of them are the flamboyant type. We also have friends who just like to dress up on Mardi gras and pretend they're fat caricatures of women. They get paid to show up at parties and do that, and I can be around all those people all day long and have fun. The difference is that they don't take themselves so seriously like these workplace idiots do. They just like regular human beings who have quirks or whatever.

As someone said above, that's the problem. The lack of humor. Doesn't matter if you're gay or straight or tall or short or fat or ugly or male or female or black or white or Catholic or Jewish or urban or hillbilly. Every one of those groups has something to joke about and if they can't take a joke they should just go home and leave the rest of us alone.
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I've heard tons of stories from friends and my kids of the "stuff" that goes on in the workplace these days. Thank God I was able to retire in September of 2007; over 16 1/2 years ago.
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14 more months left of my corporate PC BS.
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I feel your pain.

State government is even worse than the corporate world.

Only 3 or 4 more years of "Day Prison" to endure.

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stretch wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2024 6:19 pm I feel your pain.

State government is even worse than the corporate world.

Only 3 or 4 more years of "Day Prison" to endure.

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Yea, but you'll have a nice lifelong pension and healthcare. And that ain't nothing to sneeze at. After all, it's called work. As in working toward a goal and government retirement is a pretty sweet one.
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Yea, but you'll have a nice lifelong pension and healthcare. And that ain't nothing to sneeze at. After all, it's called work. As in working toward a goal and government retirement is a pretty sweet one.
Depends on the state. It's not an LA firefighter pension or Mass. State Police pension, for instance.
(And let's not even bring up the subject of Gold-Plated Congressional pensions....)

I won't be able to live on my pension, even in Maine. I worked 20+ years
in the private sector, but because as a Maine State employee, we don't
pay into Social Security, I only get paid for about half of that time
because of the Federal Windfall Elimination Provision laws. They actually reduce my
Social Security, (which I earned over 20years!) by 50%. Have to have a full
30 years under Social Security before one is exempt from that theft. To
add insult to injury, I didn't make enough money in college or in the Air Force for some of
those quarters to count - even though I paid the appropriate taxes on my earnings.

I'll have to pay the $200 a month for Medicare starting at 65 like everybody else.
Unless, that is, I take the State's Advantage plan, and plan to spend my retirement
fighting with insurance companies about what's in network and what's not, and
what they'll decide to pay for. Get hurt while traveling out of network? People have and will
continue to lose everything in some of those situations. So, I'll buy the $200 a month supplemental plan to go with
Medicare like a lot of folks have to. I will get a good discount on dental and vision insurance,
but I'll still have to pay something like 80% of the cost of major dental work for things like crowns.
All of the above - plus about $200 in taxes, comes out of my retirement check every month.

On the bright side, if I can stomach another 3 or 4 years, I'll be able to make my own way without
being a burden to others until my physical health fails or I fall off the perch, whichever comes first.
I won't be flying my new Lear Jet to my villa in Monte Carlo, but I won't be eating generic dog food, either.

And you're right - having that much is nothing to sneeze at.
"Sweet" it ain't, but it's SO much better than most of the options
that younger folks have to choose from these days. I look at some of
my friends and neighbors, and I'm quite grateful for my position. My eldest
has worked in a nursing home for the last decade, so I know I'm doing
pretty well compared to a lot of people.

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The biggest problem for some is that they are spending some of the money set side for their retirement on their kids who either refuse to work or get married and bring their own kids and wife home to live off of their parents
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barbarossa wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2024 11:56 am The biggest problem for some is that they are spending some of the money set side for their retirement on their kids who either refuse to work or get married and bring their own kids and wife home to live off of their parents
Only if the parents let them. After high school, my sisters had to either get a job and pay rent or go to college. If they went to college mom and dad would pay expenses for a local state school. All three went to college and got part time jobs. I had those choices as well. But traditionally the males in my family did a stint in the military first.

Mine and my sisters’ kids had the same choices. Except those girls also did an enlistment first.

So the problem isn’t the kids. It’s all on the parents.
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