I’m starting to favor Italian guns

[Scott Tschirhart]

I have several now and each of them have correct timing and correct throat dimensions.

I picked up this Pietta clone and it is no different.

First five rounds 8 gr 231 with a Hornady 255 gr swaged bullet. Bore is squeaky clean.

[Twodot]

NICE!
I think I saw an old movie actor that had similar grips on his Colt
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[Bill in Oregon]

Pietta really upped its game a few years back going all in on CNC machines and improved QC. One thing I like about the Uberti clones is that the cylinders are a smidge beefier than the Colt originals, and Brian Pearce says they can handle "class two" loads safely.

[Scott Tschirhart]

I’m not sure I need anything hotter than this load. It clocks around 942 fps with this bullet. Cases fall right out of the chambers.

[Bronco]

Look like a miniature revolver in you paws

[jeepnik]

Forced perspective. Camera above pointed down puts hand closer to lens. Sort of the same thing people do when taking photos of hunters behind game. Put game in front, hunters well behind animal, camera low shooting upwards. Hides the distance between animal and hunters. Sinc images are two dimensional it looks like th hunter and animal are on the same plane.

While this is often done intentionally, it’s a side effect of simply holding something while taking a photo. Same kind effect you get with selfies.

[Scott Tschirhart]

Heck, I just held it up to the target and took the photo with my phone.

[Pat C]

Nice shooting, assuming it has antique finish

[TedH]

My next purchase will be a 44-40 SAA clone to go with my Uberti 1873 rifle of the same caliber. Good to hear their quality is there.

[765x53]

Italians have always excelled at shotguns. Even the least expensive house brands, such as my old Trade Winds auto, are superb.

[6pt-sika]

Yeah I like Perazzi , Luciano Bosis and Fabbri shotguns problem is I can’t afford the Ones I like .

[Scott Tschirhart]

My shotgun choices have always been more pedestrian. I carried an 870 Police for years and hunted with Remington shotguns to the extent that the manual of arms is deeply engrained.

But I love the look of a good double.

The Italian 73 clones are really good and my Cimarron is much slicker than my Japanese Winchester guns.

I would like to get a Cimarron 73 trapper or SRC chambered in .45 Colt.

[Sarge]

I’m not sure I need anything hotter than this load. It clocks around 942 fps with this bullet. Cases fall right out of the chambers.

Anything that won't handle should be left alone until something with carriage wheels can be arranged. I've used the Lee 255RF over 8.5 of Universal, for about that velocity. I'll have to try it with 8.0 of 231, a main-battery powder here.

I prefer the Italian gun's handling over any NM Ruger, which I previously chose for heavy 45 Colt loads and the ability to carry six rounds. I'm past hot-rodding the 45 Colt and I see Pietta now offers a transfer bar single action in the Traditions Frontier. They review well and factory triggers come in at four pounds or less.

I really like the look your Pietta and it's obviously shooting well.

[Scott Tschirhart]

I prefer the Italian gun's handling over any NM Ruger, which I previously chose for heavy 45 Colt loads and the ability to carry six rounds. I'm past hot-rodding the 45 Colt and I see Pietta now offers a transfer bar single action in the Traditions Frontier. They review well and factory triggers come in at four pounds or less.

I really like the look your Pietta and it's obviously shooting well.

Sarge,

I’ve come to the same conclusions. I used to push catridges really hard, but I am seeing that was not wise. The .45 Colt at 900 fps (1100 to 1200 in a carbine) is a really good and useful round.


I slicked up the action a bit and it feels even better now.

[marlinman93]

I've got several Uberti SAA clones, and they all seem to be fine guns and accurate. My only change to all of them was to lighten the mainsprings to reduce heavier than needed hammers, and help trigger pulls too. I had an Uberti Bisley in .45 Colt I bought from Ballard Rifle Co. back when they existed. It was Steve Garbe's personal CASS handgun, and he'd gone completely through it and it was better than any original Colt SAA I'd ever handled. Glassy smooth action, and beautiful bone charcoal case colors. I let a friend talk me out of it, and still regret that sale.

[Bob Hatfield]

I boogered up my Uberti Cattleman using Linebaugh's 8 grains of 231 and a 255 gr RNSP. It hammered the firing pin hole to where the revolver would start locking up because of primer material flowing around the firing pin. Probably took about 200 rounds to do it but I Had to tig weld up the recoil shield (no firing pin bushing on the Uberti) then grind it back smooth again and redrill the firing pin hole LOL. I backed off to 7.2 grains of 231 and saved the 8-grain load for the Blackhawk. But dang it shot good with 8 grains......

Bob

[Scott Tschirhart]

That’s not good!

John shot that load in a number of guns and recommended it for my 2nd gen Colt.

[JimT]

That’s not good!

John shot that load in a number of guns and recommended it for my 2nd gen Colt.

The Colt has a firing pin bushing. The recoil shield does not get beat up like in the guns without one.
The firing pin bushing in my first .45 Colt Ruger Blackhawk was soft and got beat.

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It locked the firing pin in the forward position and tied up the gun. I got a new one, case hardened it and installed it and been shooting it ever since. That was back in the 1980's. And I have run a lot of heavy loads in it since I did that.

[Galloway]

Ive had that happen to a few uberti's and have always been able to smooth face out with diamond paper and keep them shooting. I suspect it has more to with with dry firing and mainspring pressure than the load since i was shooting black only in those days fyi. That 231 load sounds like a nice one.

[Walt]

My best loads for 250 gr cast bullets in .45 Colt have been 6.2 gr of Titegroup and 7.5 gr of 231. Both give about 850 fps and standard deviations of around 15 fps in my guns.

I have never owned Italian single actions but my shooting partner has several. As with any fixed sight revolvers including Vaqueros, I've had to turn the barrels a smidgeon to correct for windage.

[Sarge]

I've had a couple of early Uberti Cattlemen, 357 and a 44. Both got lots of Magnum loads, some mild loads and were dry fired some. Both peened the firing pin holes to the extent they required dressing.

Uberti ought to have corrected that problem long ago. My next spaghetti sixgun will be a Pietta.

[JimT]

I've owned 4 or 5 Italian-made sixguns over the years ... maybe a couple more Never had any real problems with them. I used 2 of them in CAS for quite a long time. I did not shoot the 4 gr. of Cream of Wheat loads that the players used. I always used factory equivalent or full Black Powder loads. I did slick up the actions but I did that on all guns that needed it.

[Griff]

I have 2 3rd Gen Colt SAAs in 45 Colt. My preferred SD load is a Speer 200 HP (flying ashtray), pushed by 6.5 grains of TiteGroup for about 850fps from the 4-3/4" bbl. Only ever used on paper targets during qualifying, but expansion in wet phonebooks @ 50 feet was impressive.

[Scott Tschirhart]

The great thing about the .45 Colt is that it doesn’t get any smaller!

I know of a number of folks who got shot with the .45 Colt which was very popular in that a number of officers I worked with carried Model 25 Smiths in the 1980s.

Seemed to do just fine.

[6pt-sika]

Thanks a lot this d…a…m…n thread has me perusing Bosis and Fabbri guns and has kinda carried over into the limey Boss and Purdey guns as well . Somebody got a spare million they can lend me

[Grizz]

Thanks a lot this d…a…m…n thread has me perusing Bosis and Fabbri guns and has kinda carried over into the limey Boss and Purdey guns as well . Somebody got a spare million they can lend me

I was thinking about this. The danger sign is if someone with Italian six shooters starts buying Italian motorcycles, then Italian cars, and then finally Italian shoes ! ! ! That could be an international financial crisis. .

[Scott Tschirhart]

The danger sign is if someone with Italian six shooters starts buying Italian motorcycles, then Italian cars, and then finally Italian shoes ! ! ! That could be an international financial crisis. .

No danger of that here Brother. They don’t make Italian shoes that fit me!

[6pt-sika]

Thanks a lot this d…a…m…n thread has me perusing Bosis and Fabbri guns and has kinda carried over into the limey Boss and Purdey guns as well . Somebody got a spare million they can lend me

I was thinking about this. The danger sign is if someone with Italian six shooters starts buying Italian motorcycles, then Italian cars, and then finally Italian shoes ! ! ! That could be an international financial crisis. .

You need not worry about me getting wound up on anything Italian other then the higher priced shotguns , sports cars , the food and if I wasn’t already married the younger nubile tender females of 50 kilos or less

[Griff]

The danger sign is if someone with Italian six shooters starts buying Italian motorcycles, then Italian cars, and then finally Italian shoes ! ! ! That could be an international financial crisis. .

No danger of that here Brother. They don’t make Italian shoes that fit me!

Do Luccheses count?

[Scott Tschirhart]

Griff,

I wear a size 14 or 15 depending on the booot.

They don’t make those fancy shoes in my size. Moreover, I think I might ruin such a shoe stepping in cow pies.

[JimT]

Griff,

I wear a size 14 or 15 depending on the booot.

They don’t make those fancy shoes in my size. Moreover, I think I might ruin such a shoe stepping in cow pies.

and changing the direction of this thread without apology, I used to love shooting frozen cowpies in the winter with my .22 sixgun!

[6pt-sika]

Griff,

I wear a size 14 or 15 depending on the booot.

They don’t make those fancy shoes in my size. Moreover, I think I might ruin such a shoe stepping in cow pies.

I attended a wedding in Manila four years ago . It was a Catholic ceremony and I was asked to be one of the sponser/ God parents or whatever the correct term is . Anyway I bought the traditional filipino Barone Tagalog wedding attire and wanted a decent looking pair of dress shoes , so I ordered some . Dress shoes have changed drastically since the last time I got some . These things were keen enough in the toe to kill roaches ten inches back in a crack . They are some of the most uncomfortable shoes I ever bought , they aren’t Italian but along that style . Not my cup of tea .