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We are looking to build a garden shed in the back yard to get the garden tools and mower out of the garage.

I’m thinking about walling off a part of the shed and putting my loading bench and tools in a small air conditioned space.

Has anyone done this and do you have any tips?
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Should be pretty easy with a large enough shed. A single car garage kit would work a little better for height and width. If you have the room. Not knowing your local building codes, but I used to run into a lot of small garages up here that were build on nothing more than a 4" concrete pad. Doesn't work out well with our weather, but may be an option in TX.
That way, you could build 2"x4" walls where you wanted them. Sheet it with plywood, then build off the inside of the studs for your bench.
First thoughts anyway. Pretty much how I built my workbenches in the garage/ barn. Two layers of 3/4" plywood on top of some base cabinets I took out of an insurance loss. Sheeted the outside wall over 6" fiberglass and screwed it all together. Quite solid.
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I built an 8X12 garden tool shed to match the roof slope and the Hardie siding on our house in Salem. I used pressure-treated 4X6s on 24-inch centers on leveled pier blocks, then laid down 1/2-inch hardware cloth to critter-proof before screwing down the T&G flooring plywood. Then I pretty much framed conventionally, but with 2X4 instead of 2X6, added a 48X36 window and double doors (headers over both, of course) with a ramp to drive the John Deere into the shed. Three-tab asphalt shingles over 20-pound felt up top and paint to match the house and she was done. I didn't finish the interior walls and did not contemplate wiring as that would have invited a long process of permit applications, electricians, sign-offs, etc. AD NAUSEUM.
If I were thinking of wiring and really finishing a portion of the interior, I would have framed with 2X6 and added insulation and interior walls along with lighting and outlets.
Should add, this was in rain country where, by the way, there are few if any snakes.
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Your idea is sound but...
The Texas heat concerns me , I was never one for storing my supplies in unconditioned spaces. I know you are going to put ac in it but what about when you aren't in there? Or will you leave it on 24/7/365? Or will you bring powder & primers from house to shed and back? It's probably not an issue however I would not do that.

Base cabinets are the best thing as Jason says for loading benches! Drawers, shelves- lots of storage but geeze have you priced cabinets lately?! If you can find someone doing a kitchen renovation beg, borrow the old cabinets.
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You need to see if you have building codes to contend with before anything gets started.
If you build off the back or side your existing garage, you start with a solid first wall. You probably have electrical in your garage already, so it’s much simpler ( also cheaper) to extend it into the addition. Good insulation will help keep it dry, cool or warm as needed. I live WAY north, so dry heat (not propane or gas) and a dehumidifier is what I use.
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I've had my reloading supplies in an unheated, un-airconditioned portion of my pole barn here in TX for over 30 years. Not a problem... I use an old refrigerator for powder & primer storage. Powder above in the old refrigerated section and primers in the freezer. My loading bench in built on surplus kitchen cabinetry, re-inforced with 2x4s. Everything is leveled off with shims cut from pressure treated lumber on a concrete slab. The RCBS Rock Chucker & Dillons are just at the right height to stand or sit on standard bar stools and work. Everything is topped with a slab of ¾" marine grade plywood and top surface is a surplus kitchen counter top. Presses are bolted thru counter top, ¾" plywood and 2x4 laid flat, solid.
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You are not the first I've heard of that stores powder & primers in an old fridge. I could get on board with that as it should keep its own climate. It will still have swings in temp but shouldn't be as severe as just baking in the sun scorched shed.
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I did this 34 years ago when we bought our house, just so all the lawn stuff was in one place. I looked at materials cost, and settled on a pre fab metal garden shed instead. Wish I'd bought two back then as they were under $300 for a 10'x10' shed. It's held up remarkably well for all the years, and still in good shape.
They're still around $500 at Tractor Supply and if this one ever goes bad I'll just buy another and assemble it.
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What about a tough shed ? They come and set it up and all you have to do is the interior.
I know of a guy that bought a lot of land in Wyoming, for hunting purposes, bought a tough shed, insulated it ,wired it, plumed it. When he showed up he brought a generator and, water and wood for the stove.
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When my decades old aluminum shed finally gave up the ghost I replaced it with a rubbermade. Went from 8x10 to 10x12. Amazingly I also got rid of most of the stuff in the old shed. And wondered why I kept it all these years.
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Interesting post. I may get relegated to a shed when I retire. Keep the ideas coming!
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I’m thinking about something like this:
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That would be very easy to wire the interior, insulate and add A/C, plywood, OSB or drywall. If you go that route, start with a good solid dry base to set it on.
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I’ve got some good solid railroad ties. I’m thinking about leveling them out in a frame and filling with gravel or limestone base.
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We bought one a few years ago. 16' by 16' a pre made by the Amish. I leveled a place in the backyard shoveled and hauled 6 tons of gravel for the base. they showed up at 7:00 in the morning and it was assembled into major walls and pieces. they put it together like a puzzle and were done by 11:30 AM. one thing for sure is get the 2"x6" treated toung and groove flooring , it's solid as a rock. I have my reloading bench by the windows. It's working out well. this is what I got.https://alpinestructures.net/storage-shed-cottage.html
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Another thing you may want to consider, if you have the option, do these structures come on skids? In other words, 2 or 3, 6”x6” pressure treated, full length beams.
If you ever wanted to move it, you could easily “skid” it across the yard to another location. It also makes for a very strong Frame to sit on. Easy to Jack up and re-level if needed, plus that extra distance off the ground helps with moisture abatement, and air flow.
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I have a wood frame 12x20’ shed that I enclosed and insulated the back 8’ for bullet casting. I rant a 20 Amp line into the shed with 10 gauge wire, cut a hole for an exhaust vent hood over my lead pot. The insulation I used was just left over sheets from a previous project then I covered it all in with plywood. A small AC unit will keep it about 75 to 80 degrees on the hottest summer day with a lead pot running.

I found a bunch of pictures I took when I was building it let me see if I can figure out how to post them here. It posted them backwards but I am sure you get the idea.
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That’s sort of what I have in mind. Almost exactly in fact.
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The biggest problem I would say is condensation depending on the climate. Also, of course, it depends on how you build and ventilate it. Plus mice can be a problem.
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AJMD429 wrote: Sat Sep 02, 2023 1:55 pm .
The biggest problem I would say is condensation depending on the climate. Also, of course, it depends on how you build and ventilate it. Plus mice can be a problem.
I’m on the edge of a desert. Condensation is not an issue.
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I built an 8x12. I used 4x8 siding, insulation, drywall(taped, floated) and a single opening, a 3/0 door. I stays surprisingly cool inside. Next time I'll wrap with tyvek, seal and insulate the floor as this one is on cinder blocks. An a/c unit would not have to work real hard. Planned on this being my meat cutting house then Hurricane Harvey changed our minds......still full of home stuff.
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