Jay....I know you live clean as does your family.......I've never known any family member on either side to have been in the big house.....known more than a few co workers and others.........on fridays for about a year I used to drop off a co worker at the big house down the road...it was something like his 4th dui.....this guy was something...I used to check out Saturday night specials he would get on the street as he lived in a bad part of town and he couldn't read or write to fill out the forms....cheap .22's, 32's and such.......within a week of him getting it the cops had it.....he shot up all kinds of bars and people's cars.....one time he shot up the bars cash register and it was in the newspaper.........week later he'd get another. .......another time he came to work and first thing in the morning he told me he sliced this guy up good in a bar and the cops were looking for him....I laughed.....next day second page headline "cops seek slasher" and described this guy to a T. He entrusted me with that privy info...funny thing, this guy was the chief shop steward and always had a liking for me......helped me out many times and never let others mess with me when I was a young guy......we were buddies for many years until he retired....a forced retirement as he kept coming to work drunk and they didn't want to fire him........other than his drinking problem he was one of the finest people I have ever known....black guy who had arms as big as my legs and not an ounce of fat........but once he got that first drink ...
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He's still alive at 85....September 23, 1934 was his birth date as I used to do all of his bank forms and other paperwork as he couldn't read or write......