Got new .45 Colt molds, need new loads......

Travis Morgan · Post by **Travis Morgan** » Fri May 16, 2008 10:57 am

Guys, got some new molds, need new loads.

One is a 255gr. Lyman SWC, the other is a Keith 255 gr..

Powders: H-110, Bullseye, and trailboss.

Don't need loads for trailboss, really, but I just figured I'd toss it in. I use 5.8 gr. of TB under a 250 gr. RNFP. darned accurate load. Good for rabits.

For the H-110, I've tried the 26.3 under a 250 gr. XTP. Saw big flames, developed a flinch, and now I'm over it.

Don't need to start a prarie fire, just want a good, serviceable load for shooting coyotes, dogs, etc.. Something Powerful than "Cowboy" loads, but comfortable enough to shoot regularly.

I figure somewhere around 1,000 FPS ought to do, without being retardedly hot. I dunno. What velocity do you guys that carry a gun for varmints and hunting use?

Don McDowell · Post by **Don McDowell** » Fri May 16, 2008 11:14 am

9 grs of unique.

Travis Morgan · Post by **Travis Morgan** » Fri May 16, 2008 11:55 am

Thanks, but I don't use Unique. Just the powders listed.

Don McDowell · Post by **Don McDowell** » Fri May 16, 2008 12:03 pm

Well thats a shame.
Best bet might be take a subscription to www.loaddata.com, 25$ well spent.

ejc · Post by **ejc** » Fri May 16, 2008 12:11 pm

I shoot 20.5 grs of WW296 which is the same powder as H110. Very pleasant to shoot. Of course I shoot that load in a Ruger. Might be a little stiff for a Colt SAA or clones.

Travis Morgan · Post by **Travis Morgan** » Fri May 16, 2008 12:11 pm

Once I have cash flowing IN again, I plan on buying some Red Dot, Unique, 2400, tightgroup, Power Pistol, etc., but right now, we're stretched mighty thin; I'm going in for back surgery on the 30th, unless my Dr.'s office screws things up, again.

I didn't mean to sound pissy with you, I just asked for specifics, and nothing more, to prevent thread drift.

I want to be able to load up a bunch of ammo with bullets I cast, so I have some to shoot while I'm recovering. It'll be 3 weeks, I think, post op before I can ride in a car again. That's gonna SUCK! No horses, dogs, hunting, fishing..... Aaaaaaaaaaaaaagh!

Don McDowell · Post by **Don McDowell** » Fri May 16, 2008 12:22 pm

None of the powders you listed are worth a flip at bringing either one of those bullets in at 1000 fps. So you'll either have to shoot em red hot with the 110, or dillydally along with bullseye and the trailboss.
Unigue, bluedot, 2400 and 5744 will all do a pretty good job of midlevel loads without straining the gun or the cartridge case.
Hope you get better soon.

Travis Morgan · Post by **Travis Morgan** » Fri May 16, 2008 12:26 pm

Well, John Linebaugh and John Taffin sure don't seem to sniff at using the H-110 in their loads in this weight range.

Linebaugh's 26.3 load at 1.395 fps has NO trouble breaking 1K, but it's more than I wanna handle.

Don McDowell · Post by **Don McDowell** » Fri May 16, 2008 2:21 pm

It's not the weight range, its the velocity range you stated you wanted.

Its hard to get anything down around 1000fps, you said you wanted, with those bullets using 110 as you start to get into the charge weights that are below where 110 works good. Now if you want to keep them ripping at about 1300 then 110 is your daddy.
With bullseye and trailboss 800ish is about as good as it gets and still keep all the cylinder walls intact with those bullets.
I've shot the 45 colt for close to 40 years now, do have bit of experience with it, and a goodly amount of powders. Have run it into insane levels, but for the most part I've yet to find anything more appropriate for the grand ol devil than a 255ish bullet chugging along at around 950 fps from a handgun.
Hope you achieve recovery soon.

rjohns94 · Post by **rjohns94** » Fri May 16, 2008 5:24 pm

Travis, hope the surgery goes well. I can't help you with your loads for the powders you are looking for, I load unique for the .45 down to cowboy loads.

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Fri May 16, 2008 5:31 pm

Don McDowell wrote: It's not the weight range, its the velocity range you stated you wanted.
Its hard to get anything down around 1000fps, you said you wanted, with those bullets using 110 as you start to get into the charge weights that are below where 110 works good. Now if you want to keep them ripping at about 1300 then 110 is your daddy.
With bullseye and trailboss 800ish is about as good as it gets and still keep all the cylinder walls intact with those bullets.
I've shot the 45 colt for close to 40 years now, do have bit of experience with it, and a goodly amount of powders. Have run it into insane levels, but for the most part I've yet to find anything more appropriate for the grand ol devil than a 255ish bullet chugging along at around 950 fps from a handgun.
Hope you achieve recovery soon.

What he said. But, you really didn't say what guns you wanted to shoot your .45 Colt loads out of. It DOES make a difference.

J Miller · Post by **J Miller** » Fri May 16, 2008 10:16 pm

Travis,

I agree with what Don, Griff and rjohns said. The powders you have just won't work well for your velocity level.
I know money is tight, but rather than risk a squib with the H110, I'd suggest picking up a pound of 2400.

If we were closer I'd trade you some for some. I've got some really heavy .45 bullets and 2400 is the slowest powder I have. I don't want to buy a whole pound of powder for just a handful of bullets.

Joe

Travis Morgan · Post by **Travis Morgan** » Sat May 17, 2008 1:08 am

Thanks for all the well wishes, guys. My wife's not amused that I wannna ride bucking horses again after I recover and get back into shape. WOMEN!

The guns in question are Stainless old model Vaqueros in .45 Colt. 4 5/8" and a 3 1/2" Sheriff's model.

jerry b · Post by **jerry b** » Sun May 18, 2008 5:10 pm

The Trail Boss load with the .45 and bullets you wll use will put the kerbashes on the critters you are after, I would think. If it's accurate and pleasant, why change?

However, with the larger framed Rugers, the classic Keith bullet deserves the classic Keith load of 2400 (1130 out of my 5.5" barrel, 1200 with the 7.5" tube, and 1520 out of my rifle). Outstanding .45 colt load, in my opinion, for this and that.

Travis Morgan · Post by **Travis Morgan** » Sun May 18, 2008 5:31 pm

Any of you chrono'd a 255 SWC over 20 gr. H-110? I don't have a chrono, but I was wondering what kinda ballpark I'm running in, velocity wise.