Scopes are the best !!!!!!!!
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Scopes are the best !!!!!!!!
Because - you can see the target better.
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Well, I started hunting about 44 years ago, and I have tried them all. I have used lots of open irons of various styles, lots of peep/ receiver sights, and scopes.
And I would feel fairly safe to say that if you want the best chance of bagging game, under most conditions, then a Low powered variable, but not too low, is the best sight of all. In this day and age, I think most hunters mount too big a scope. I have always preferred the 2x7 variable, usually a Leupold. And I always keep it on 2 power for a close fast shot, if it is a longer shot, I almost always have time to turn it up. Even in fairly thick brush a low powered scope is usually better, because quite often the shot is at the outer edge of clarity, through the brush, and a scope helps identify the target, and find a hole in the brush to slip a bullet through, and that goes double, when the shadows start getting long in the low light of evening.
However, there are times when a scope is not the best. I have seen the time when it was snowing, and a scope was almost useless, even a low powered one. Dangerous game at very close range is another time when I would prefer a receiver sight with a big hole in it, or better yet, a good shallow V open sight. If is is raining, I would about as soon have an iron sighted gun.
Some people will be quick to tell stories of how they have shot pretty small targets at very long range with ironsights in good light. I have my own stories, where I have done the same. If you set a small but bright target up in good light at long range, I just might surprise you on how good a shot, I might make on it. But that is not the usual shot you get, under hunting conditions.
Now, all of that aside, I love iron sighted rifles and own many, but if I really want to kill anything that presents itself, under hunting conditions, I will usually choose my Browning BLR with a 2x7 Leupold.
However, nothing carries better then an open sighted pre-64 Winchester 30/30 leveraction, and for close range fast shooting at moving game, it's hard to beat. But when I say close, I mean close, 30 yards or less, much farther then that, and I am probably just as fast and more accurate with my BLR and Scope.
So, lets get real, I don't carry ironsighted rifles for hunting, because I think they are best, I carry them because I love to carry a scopeless leveraction, at times, just for the sheer pleasure of it. For the handiness, and for the nastalgia of it, for the pleasure I receive from maybe taking a step back in time, to when an ironsighted leveraction really was about the best choice going. And it's still a good choice, maybe even the best choice at times. But then who says we have to always make the best choice anyway. Hunt with what you want to, know the limitations of your choice and hunt within them.
And I would feel fairly safe to say that if you want the best chance of bagging game, under most conditions, then a Low powered variable, but not too low, is the best sight of all. In this day and age, I think most hunters mount too big a scope. I have always preferred the 2x7 variable, usually a Leupold. And I always keep it on 2 power for a close fast shot, if it is a longer shot, I almost always have time to turn it up. Even in fairly thick brush a low powered scope is usually better, because quite often the shot is at the outer edge of clarity, through the brush, and a scope helps identify the target, and find a hole in the brush to slip a bullet through, and that goes double, when the shadows start getting long in the low light of evening.
However, there are times when a scope is not the best. I have seen the time when it was snowing, and a scope was almost useless, even a low powered one. Dangerous game at very close range is another time when I would prefer a receiver sight with a big hole in it, or better yet, a good shallow V open sight. If is is raining, I would about as soon have an iron sighted gun.
Some people will be quick to tell stories of how they have shot pretty small targets at very long range with ironsights in good light. I have my own stories, where I have done the same. If you set a small but bright target up in good light at long range, I just might surprise you on how good a shot, I might make on it. But that is not the usual shot you get, under hunting conditions.
Now, all of that aside, I love iron sighted rifles and own many, but if I really want to kill anything that presents itself, under hunting conditions, I will usually choose my Browning BLR with a 2x7 Leupold.
However, nothing carries better then an open sighted pre-64 Winchester 30/30 leveraction, and for close range fast shooting at moving game, it's hard to beat. But when I say close, I mean close, 30 yards or less, much farther then that, and I am probably just as fast and more accurate with my BLR and Scope.
So, lets get real, I don't carry ironsighted rifles for hunting, because I think they are best, I carry them because I love to carry a scopeless leveraction, at times, just for the sheer pleasure of it. For the handiness, and for the nastalgia of it, for the pleasure I receive from maybe taking a step back in time, to when an ironsighted leveraction really was about the best choice going. And it's still a good choice, maybe even the best choice at times. But then who says we have to always make the best choice anyway. Hunt with what you want to, know the limitations of your choice and hunt within them.
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New Pig, what did you do at China Lake - had one day of hunting up there where we got Chukar, Quail, and duck in the same day. Glad to see you made the leap over,
Actually for me:
unscoped, .22, 357, 45 Colt, 30-30, 444 - pretty much covers the range.
scoped, 25-35, .243, .250, .300 Sav, .308, 30-30, 35 Rem, 375, 45-70 - pretty much covers that range.
Actually for me:
unscoped, .22, 357, 45 Colt, 30-30, 444 - pretty much covers the range.
scoped, 25-35, .243, .250, .300 Sav, .308, 30-30, 35 Rem, 375, 45-70 - pretty much covers that range.
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Hmmmm, then I wonder what that thing is sitting atop of the weapons used by US forces is, iron sight in a tube?PaperPatch wrote:History shows us that....since the age of gunpowder this world has been ruled with iron sights. We live in interesting times.
there is no such thing as a miss if you still have ammo
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win40-82 wrote:Hmmmm, then I wonder what that thing is sitting atop of the weapons used by US forces is, iron sight in a tube?PaperPatch wrote:History shows us that....since the age of gunpowder this world has been ruled with iron sights. We live in interesting times.
Relax....I've got more scopes than you do.