Alzheimer's and euthanasia

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Bill in Oregon
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Alzheimer's and euthanasia

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I will say right up front that the Dutch approach to euthanasia gives me the willies -- and I lived most of my life in the first right-to-die state, Oregon.
That said, it took 12 years for Alzheimer's to destroy my mother, who did not even know my name for the last 10 years -- a whole decade.
If I develop dementia, I don't want to continue, don't want to be a drooling shell of a human, don't want to be a burden to anyone. So the course the doctor took in this case is frankly just fine with me. If I were unable to take matters into my own hands, I believe this would be a blessing.
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I hear ya.... watched my mom wither away for almost 10 years, she didn't have alzheimers but a rare progressive "palsy", with dementia.
Seeing her like that was horrible, no quality of life, just a shell sitting in her own waste... makes you wonder what to do if it happens to you....
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I think the Dutch largely have the right idea. A living will, years of conversations with the family
and other medical professionals - I personally think the doc did the morally correct and compassionate
thing in this case.

If we have an ailing, terminally ill pet in pain - no problem. Yet if we have an ailing, suffering,
loved one, we're not allowed to intercede - even if the ailing, suffering loved one has requested
that someone help to put an end to their misery. We instead put them through suffering that we
wouldn't - and aren't legally allowed - to put a terrorist through. And yet we trumpet the right
of the individual in this nation.

And again - it's a choice. No living will? The patient hasn't clearly expressed a desire to end the suffering
in front of multiple authorities and witnesses on multiple occasions? Can't do it. I think that there are
plenty of safeguards in place, and it IS an individual choice.

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I am stuck at "I shall not commit murder" . . . .

I have a small sailboat I call my hospice camp. I hope I will be able to time my last voyage to coincide with my last days, which I wish that NO ONE would see or participate in . . . , and die of natural causes, a spec on the ocean....

not something I can recommend to anyone, but gets around the murder issue, so that none of my loved ones will be burdened with either problem ...
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Grizz, the Inuit would put their elderly infirm on an ice floe, and watch it slowly disappear. I think this is far more merciful than watching someone slowly strangle, intubated, in ICU as my father did.
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Everybody that I know of in my gene family died "good deaths".....here today...gone tomorrow......

I know (knew) a doctor who, after receiving confirmation of an aggressive form of Alzheimer's, climbed into his favorite deer hunting tree stand and used his favorite .270.

That's why I live my life with the motto of "party on dude".....when your number comes up, all the shooting, laughs, partying, and good times are done. Surround yourself with the right people and discard/ignore the negative ones.---6. Go! Get away from me! .. :D
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One way or another when it’s time I’m going home.
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Just don’t leave a mess for someone to have to clean up.
Don’t trash your face. Don’t let it be a surprise. Those of you who are first responders know what I mean.
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Yep been there seen that. I like Grizz’ idea.
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I used the EASY button, and have a written/notarized "do not resuscitate" directive entered into all my medical records. 8)

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Tycer wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:28 pm Just don’t leave a mess for someone to have to clean up. Don’t trash your face. Don’t let it be a surprise.

Those of you who are first responders know what I mean...
Or worse yet....relatives (who find you).....
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About a month ago I was sure glad I didn't have a DNR order. If I had, I wouldn't be here today.
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My mother had a stroke four years ago.

The stroke paralyzed one half of her body.

She didn't have Alzheimer, although speech was a problem.

My mother was in a nursing home, she didn't want to be there.

She died at ninety three years of age.

It was a merciful release.

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I had a relative with a DNR that died while choking on a piece of food. The providers literally just watched her and did nothing. I can’t support a DNR because it is contingent on the common sense of the providers.
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