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Hi The forum. Just logged on with a specific question if anyone can help.
Looking to get a Rossi 92 in 357 mag. Purpose is subsonic cast loads, its important to me to get something accurate say 2" at 50 yards with a 158 grain bullet.
Is accuracy with this heavy a bullet at slow speeds realistic with the rossi slow twist 1:30?
Why on earth did they make it a 1:30 anyway..
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Welcome to the great levergun bunch. I can't answer your question but there are many loaders that can. I have a Rossi 92 SRC in .357 and it will shoot all of my loads. 38spl swc and .357 swc loads and all jacketed bullets.
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I cannot answer your question ...yet. I have several different powders loaded in 38.special cases with.158 grain Lee boolits, sitting downstairs.for my 1980's puma. I unfortunately have a badly infected.foot and will be a.couple three weeks until.I will be able to accuracy test them
Gimme a few weeks and we will both know.
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3 grains of Bullseye or 3.5 of 231 will fit your needs perfectly. For some real fun, try 2 gr. of Bullseye ....will sound like a .22 short.----6
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fordwannabe wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:12 am I cannot answer your question ...yet. I have several different powders loaded in 38.special cases with.158 grain Lee boolits, sitting downstairs.for my 1980's puma. I unfortunately have a badly infected.foot and will be a.couple three weeks until.I will be able to accuracy test them
Gimme a few weeks and we will both know.
Thanks , it would be interesting to see but I think your old puma will have the faster twist, maybe 1:18 from memory? Its this darned new twist in the Rossi's 1:30 being the problem. I knew I should have got one 10 year ago :)
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Sixgun wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:28 am 3 grains of Bullseye or 3.5 of 231 will fit your needs perfectly. For some real fun, try 2 gr. of Bullseye ....will sound like a .22 short.----6
Ok so thats a vote for some accurate load potential with a 158 grain? Thankyou!
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When did they change the twist rate....?
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AJMD429 wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:26 am When did they change the twist rate....?
Not sure, I only know from references on the internet some fellows have older ones and measured tighter twists. The rossi M92 now are 1:30.
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My mouse fanny burp load for my 357 mag trapper (16") is a cast 158 SWC nudged by 4.2 gr of Trailboss. I will send a pic to anyone that can post pics of a target with carbine and load data including chrono velocities. 950 fps and 2-1/4" at 100 yds five shot group.
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Hi welcome to the Levergun Enablers forumn. I have a Puma 20" 357 I bought in 2005. Have shot couple hundred 158gr RNFP's at a chronoed 810 fps.. Killed lots of rocks and cans up to 200 yards or so. Eyes aint that great anymore but when I benched it at hundred yards there were no tumblers. Do you have a companion revolver for it? Todd/3leg
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Todd don't forget the Pearson mount is available for your gun also. I know it isnt traditional but with not great eyes a red dot or scope helps.
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Les Staley & 3leggedturtle....let us know your twist rates....!

My little 16" 357 Mag shoots 38 Spl light loads to 2" at 50 yards with open (Marbles Bullseye) sights, but I never measured the twist......will do at next opportunity and report back.
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Ford Sir, I have plenty of scopes and red dots on levers, but can't justify the over $100 price of that mount. it also my woods walking gun, still shoot good enough up 75 yards or so. Doc, it'll be late February b4 I get back home. Todd/3leg
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Thanks for the reply and interest fellas. I'd be interested in hearing about the twists our there if anyone can measure. Here's a link to folks with both 1:16" twist Rossi 92's and the current 1:30" twist rate rossi's. Its possible the tighter twist may have been special releases or just earlier guns, no one appears to be 100% sure. I'd sure like a 1:16 myself anyways.

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Hey Todd, If you can still get er done, why change right? I bought one last month for my Puma and it was $60. Absolutely no disrespect meant, just an FYI.
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3leggedturtle wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:02 pm Hi welcome to the Levergun Enablers forumn. I have a Puma 20" 357 I bought in 2005. Have shot couple hundred 158gr RNFP's at a chronoed 810 fps.. Killed lots of rocks and cans up to 200 yards or so. Eyes aint that great anymore but when I benched it at hundred yards there were no tumblers. Do you have a companion revolver for it? Todd/3leg
Thanks for the welcome. Yes I have a 38 special I run 158grains and was hoping to run similar weight in the Rossi 92.
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mickbr wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:49 am
3leggedturtle wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:02 pm Hi welcome to the Levergun Enablers forumn. I have a Puma 20" 357 I bought in 2005. Have shot couple hundred 158gr RNFP's at a chronoed 810 fps.. Killed lots of rocks and cans up to 200 yards or so. Eyes aint that great anymore but when I benched it at hundred yards there were no tumblers. Do you have a companion revolver for it? Todd/3leg
Thanks for the welcome. Yes I have a 38 special I run 158grains and was hoping to run similar weight in the Rossi 92.
Mine was new in May 2005. Made by LSI, Legacy Sports Int'l Todd/3leg
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fordwannabe wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:08 am Hey Todd, If you can still get er done, why change right? I bought one last month for my Puma and it was $60. Absolutely no disrespect meant, just an FYI.
No disrespect taken, $60 ain't bad, will look at it when I get home next month. I had the receiver d+t'ed for a Williams peep sight. Now it the flashlight mount would be under $50 I'd really be happy.. Todd/3leg
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Mine is a later model. About 3 years old. Taurus Braztech. A little past a half turn in 16" bbl. roughly 1/30.
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Today I checked online and the Interarms 92 have a 1- 30 twist rate. That is what mine is. Does anybody have a light load with 158 grain and Unique or Universal ???
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Todd if you find that flashlight mount for $50 You will.let me know, right?
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Does anybody have a light load with 158 grain and Unique or Universal ???
I have 2 Rossi's, a 20" carbine and a 24" octagon rifle. Lee 158 Tumble lube SWC or RN 158 and 5 grs of Unique runs approximately 1050 fps out of both guns and averages 3-4" 100 yd groups. All the newer rossi's are 30" twist and IME the Lee 125RF or the Lee 120TC(9mm bullet)are the most accurate out of my rifles.
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Thanks retmech, I'll give that a try in mine.
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Thanks all for those replies, so 158 grain looks like where its at for heavy options, and it will work with the right load. :)
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mickbr wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:35 pm Hi The forum. Just logged on with a specific question if anyone can help.
Looking to get a Rossi 92 in 357 mag. Purpose is subsonic cast loads, its important to me to get something accurate say 2" at 50 yards with a 158 grain bullet.
Is accuracy with this heavy a bullet at slow speeds realistic with the rossi slow twist 1:30?
Why on earth did they make it a 1:30 anyway..
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thank you for the information!
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