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You guys know the story. Went in for .22 LRs on sale and came home with a WWI 1917 S&W.
With a hand full of CCI Mini Mags I took an obligatory stroll past the used gun case and there on the top shelf is a 1917 with a price tag of about half of what it should be. Looking it over and it turns out to be a VERY early production revolver with a Gilbert H. Stewart acceptance proof and a serial number just over 1000 making it one the first WWI 1917s.
The pictures don't do it justice, condition is about 95% or better with some good dings on the grips.
Had to include my late WWI production '17 and my .455 Second Model Hand Ejector.
Just a happy camper!
jb
jasonB " Another Dirty Yankee"
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I've had the other two for probably 20 years. Don't think I paid more that $250 for either one. The .455 Eley is a fun shooter but the '17 in the center was my constant companion before I got the work done on the SBH. On the trail I'd have it loaded with a heavy(ish) .45 Auto Rim and a pocket full of .45 ACP on moon clips. My grandfather had one while he was on the Border Patrol in AZ in the late '20s and had a coffee can full of 1/2 moon clips and thousands of .45s. The action on the new one is even smoother than the other two. Bettin' it shoots just as well.
jb
jasonB " Another Dirty Yankee"
" Tomorrow the sun will rise. Who knows what the tide could bring?"
Congratulations! Enjoy that classic in good health.
John
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2ndovc: does the hammer have the machined grooves to hold oil?
I have been told that on the early S&W M1917's, grooves were machined on the hammer as a way to prevent rust and provide lubrication. However, it was soon found the oil did nothing but attract dirt and grime, causing the action to bind. My S&W 1917, made in 1918, has the machined hammer and all matching numbers -- including the grips.
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OldWin wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2017 9:38 am
Why don't stuff like that happen to me?........I'm a good person.........really.
No your not....your bad! I'M the one who should have Jason's gun. besides, you live in Maine where people actually have to work for a living and therefore, your Maine guns are well used. Come down about 400 miles south where we are all bums and no one has to work hard and the guns are all like new.
That's nice Jason.....as you know, good guns with condition are better than money in the bank and junk is junk and always will be junk.---6
1st. Gen. Colt SAA’s, 1878 D.A.45 and a 38-55 Marlin TD
OldWin wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2017 9:38 am
Why don't stuff like that happen to me?........I'm a good person.........really.
No your not....your bad! I'M the one who should have Jason's gun. besides, you live in Maine where people actually have to work for a living and therefore, your Maine guns are well used. Come down about 400 miles south where we are all bums and no one has to work hard and the guns are all like new.
That's nice Jason.....as you know, good guns with condition are better than money in the bank and junk is junk and always will be junk.---6
Oh, that hurts man!
First, it's well over 500 miles by road. That's how far I'll drive to visit a bud.
And, because all our old guns are wore out, we need......and I deserve, nice ones like that.
Cause I am.....i am, a good guy!
"Oh bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round.
I don't blame you! Wouldn't give em up either. Those are some nice Smith's.
Don't worry, me an ole Six are just hackin.
I don't know bout the rest of the population down there, but Jack ain't no bum. The guy is going all the time.
I am jealous of his cool guns though.
But....i think he covets my half mag carbines.
"Oh bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round.
Jason,
Be careful with that Old Win guy.....he was over here a couple of weeks ago and I'm now short 2 first gen colts. Was wondering why he wore that big heavy coat.
That 2nd model h.e......the 455 ......I like that too....a lot of those were converted.......one of my buddies was over here some years back and spied a complete box of ammo for that......that also disappeared with a $50 bill where the box used to be.
Another thing on those half magazine leverguns........at the match yesterday one of the guys was showing me his Gunbroker acquired Deluxe Marlin 1893 with checkered pistol grip, takedown, half rd/oct., and HALF mag., which I have never seen on a Marlin takedown...I asked him which state it came from.......his response?......Maine. They must be good shots up that way, not to need all that extra ammo.----6
1st. Gen. Colt SAA’s, 1878 D.A.45 and a 38-55 Marlin TD
Doh! I figured it'd be years fore ole Six noticed any missing!
No kidding on the 93? Wow. Was it 38-55?
It ain't that we are good shots, it's that we can't afford to buy enough shells to fill a full length magazine.
"Oh bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round.
No, the Marlin was a 30-30......no finish....very worn wood...this gun was used a lot but well taken care of...no unsightly rust or gouges....excellent shiney bore....according to the owner, its a shooter....he used it in the silhouette match yesterday.-----the guy who is missing 2 Colts.
1st. Gen. Colt SAA’s, 1878 D.A.45 and a 38-55 Marlin TD
Jack,
The H.E. is still intact as a .455 Eley. It's a lot of fun to shoot too, not a big bang but a big old heavy bullet to thump into things. I get hollow base bullets from a guy in PA at @ 8.00 / 100. It'll shoot circles around the Webleys.
jb
jasonB " Another Dirty Yankee"
" Tomorrow the sun will rise. Who knows what the tide could bring?"
Sixgun wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2017 6:22 pm
Jason.....cool....from what I hear and have read, most of these have been converted to 45 ACP.....if that's even possible....or is it 45 Colt?-----6
I've seen them done both ways, the .45ACP being more common. A lot of guys just turned down the rear of the cyl. to accept the 1/2 moon clips that were everywhere in those days. Accuracy sucked for the most part with the larger bores. I see the conversions going for $5-600 these days. I love the guys that try and tell you that the British ordered them that way. There's plenty of 1917s with British proofs in .45ACP but not the earlier Hand Ejectors. Not in any numbers at least.
jb
jasonB " Another Dirty Yankee"
" Tomorrow the sun will rise. Who knows what the tide could bring?"
Those are nice. There is a 1917 here at the shop. Solid and well made. Unfortunately I have no funds left. Todd/3leg
30/30 Winchester: Not accurate enough fer varmints, barely adequate for small deer; BUT In a 10" to 14" barrelled pistol; is good for moose/elk to 200 yards; ground squirrels to 300 metres
250 Savage... its what the 223 wishes it could be...!
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