looking for info on changing Win.94 rebounding group

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looking for info on changing Win.94 rebounding group

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I thought there was a post recently about changing out the rebounding hammer group on a Winchester 94. Yesterday my grandson Jerry3 bought a 1988 Win 94 AE.45 Colt Trapper. We shot about 20 rounds through it, He wants it changed out like his old 30-30. is there someone that sells the parts as a group? Thanks for any help in this.
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Under the "One Sticky" Item #10 under "How To"
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Here's probably the very first post about swapping out the lower tang on a rebounding hammer 94AE:

{ https://www.beartoothbullets.com/tech_n ... tes.htm/42 }

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Thanks Griff and Joe
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I don't know if the parts are easily available at this point, perhaps piecing it together is the only way. I used to find them at gunshows and pass them along, but haven't been able to find any complete groups in a couple years.
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Sorry to dredge up this old post, but I'm trying to do this conversion.
If, like in the pictures I saw somewhere, all I need is a hammer, strut, spring, sear, and trigger, I should be ok.
My problem is, I need factory Winchester part numbers for these parts. They should be for rifles between
ser. #4,580,000 & 5.500,000.

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Okay, so I think I figured out what part numbers these 5 parts are.
If I'm wrong, please let me know.
If it's right (pretty sure it is), maybe it'll help someone else.
Hammer #4294X
Spring #4594X
Strut #4794X
Sear #7294X
Trigger #7794X
The hammer bushing should be the same. If not, it's #4394X
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Midwest Gun Works had some of the parts, and maybe complete lower tangs, (not sure if half cock or rebound) last year. Not sure if they still do.

I vaguely recall complete lower tangs were about $150-ish.
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Thanks Malamute. I think I have a local source for the parts. They guy just needs the factory part numbers.
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OldWin wrote:Okay, so I think I figured out what part numbers these 5 parts are.
If I'm wrong, please let me know.
If it's right (pretty sure it is), maybe it'll help someone else.
Hammer #4294X
Spring #4594X
Strut #4794X
Sear #7294X
Trigger #7794X
The hammer bushing should be the same. If not, it's #4394X
Those are old part numbers from a Numrich Gun Part print catalog. If I'm not mistaken from the early '90s.
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Well, ain't that just super. Thanks Griff.
I don't know why it's so hard to find those numbers. Maybe it's just hard for me. :D
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OldWin wrote:Well, ain't that just super. Thanks Griff.
I don't know why it's so hard to find those numbers. Maybe it's just hard for me. :D
Order this reprint of the 1978 Winchester parts catalog: Winchester 1978 Component Parts Catalog. I just did... BTW, I need 4 of the Hammer Spring Guide Rods (Strut).
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Thanks Griff.
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BTW, here's the page from the Numrich catalog where those part numbers come from:
Winch94parts-3.jpg
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I saw that diagram, but it didn't say Gun Parts Corp. on it.
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My "new" 1978 parts catalog came today.
OldWin wrote:Okay, so I think I figured out what part numbers these 5 parts are.
If I'm wrong, please let me know.
If it's right (pretty sure it is), maybe it'll help someone else.
Hammer #4294X
Spring #4594X
Strut #4794X
Sear #7294X
Trigger #7794X
The hammer bushing should be the same. If not, it's #4394X
And, lo and behold, those are the Winchester part numbers. The earlier hammer is what's different below serial # 4,580,000, it's a 4494X and doesn't use a bushing... and uses the two flat springs.
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Awesome! Thanks a bunch Griff! I thought it was but I haven't called the guy back yet. Didn't want to bug him if it wasn't right.
I owe you one, my friend.
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Find out if he has some extra struts...
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I will do that Griff. Same part #?
I will probably call tomorrow. I'm going ice fishing but will call in the afternoon.
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OldWin wrote:I will do that Griff. Same part #?
I will probably call tomorrow. I'm going ice fishing but will call in the afternoon.
Yes, 4794X
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How many do you need?
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OldWin wrote:How many do you need?
Sent you a PM.
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