Indian Police rifle: Bolt action with a hammer

bcp · Post by **bcp** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:22 pm

Larger photo at Denver Public Library.

http://cdm16079.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/ ... 2/id/69393

IndianPoliceRemKeeneRifle.jpg

Looks like a Remington Keene rifle.

Bruce

gamekeeper · Post by **gamekeeper** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 3:50 am

Sure looks like a Remington Keene to me too......

AJMD429 · Post by **AJMD429** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 10:35 am

http://www.forgottenweapons.com/rifles/remington-keene/

Larkbill · Post by **Larkbill** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 10:43 am

I figured that's what Clint Eastwood used in Joe Kidd when their party was ambushed buy the sniper up on the rocks. Clearly was a bolt action, then he cocked it before shooting.

Mike Armstrong · Post by **Mike Armstrong** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 11:08 am

I assume that the Indian Police were issued .45-70s because of the availability of govt. ammo. But some Rem Keanes were .44-40. Anybody know which the Indian Police used?

Ray Newman · Post by **Ray Newman** » Thu Dec 10, 2015 2:12 pm

Agree that it is probably a Remington-Keene.

"The[US] Navy did purchase 250 Remington-Keene rifles for use on the USS Michigan and USS Trenton, and the Indian Bureau also purchased several hundred for its Indian agents. These guns were all chambered fort he standard .45-70-405 cartridge, but commercial guns were also available in .40-60 and .43 Spanish calibers. Magazine capacity was 9 cartridges in a 29 1/4″ rifle and less in the shorter carbine models (I haven’t found reliable numbers for the specific carbine capacity)."

Source: http://www.forgottenweapons.com/remingt ... -repeater/

Another bolt rifle that is seldom seen is the Winchester Hotchkiss, but that did not have a hammer.

www.forgottenweapons.com/rifles/winchester-hotchkiss/

Nate Kiowa Jones · Post by **Nate Kiowa Jones** » Thu Dec 10, 2015 3:51 pm

I'm betting (my WAG

) these indian police Rem keens were 44-40. I say that because the most common handgun for various Indian police agencies was the Remington 1875. The most common cal was 44-40.

Sixgun · Post by **Sixgun** » Thu Dec 10, 2015 8:37 pm

Remington Keenes were mostly in 45-70 with some in 43 Spanish. Most were in military form and a few in sporting configuration. Mine is in the latter, serial number 47 and has a pistol grip and half round/oct. barrel.

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Hawkeye2 · Post by **Hawkeye2** » Thu Dec 10, 2015 9:09 pm

All that I have seen said the Indian Police guns were full magazine, 24" barrels in .45-70.

That is not actually a hammer but is really a cocking piece shaped like a hammer for ease in cocking and to probably maintain a traditional look. The striker fell to the half cock notch when the bolt was closed meaning the gun had to be cocked to fire. The "hammer" is attached to the underside of the bolt with a pivot and to the striker with a link a little like a bicycle chain link. The striker is released by the trigger in a manner similar to many bolt action guns and the "hammer" plays no part in firing the gun.

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