NEW TO ME WIN 1892 IN 38-40
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NEW TO ME WIN 1892 IN 38-40
Its been a long since I've posted here, sort have been out of the lever gun world but got re-interested this weekend with the purchase of a Model 1892 in 38-40. The rifle was made in 1917 and sports wicked looking stock with a half round & half octagon barrel that is standard length with a full length magazine. Blueing on receiver is what a I would call 90% with barrel and mag in the strong 90's. Bore is a 9.5 out of 10. Hope that these pictures work ok. Looking forward to any comments. Also interested in any estimates of value.
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Very nice 92! And in the best chambering.
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WOW.
not much else to say. looks like a million bucks to me.
not much else to say. looks like a million bucks to me.
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Very Nice!
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That is one good lookin rifle
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that is a top notch gun....excellent score.. congrats
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Very rare in that configuration. The factory most always used better than average wood on special order guns. Along with rarity, you also have "condition" and when both of these factors are added in, you have at least a $3,000 gun.......at a good auction, closer to 4-------------6 Very nice.
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That is very nice!
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Beautiful gun. Congratulations !!
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That's one hot looking vintage 92
Do you have any history on her
Do you have any history on her
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Grizz wrote:WOW.
not much else to say. looks like a million bucks to me.
+1 !!!
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Hey Kid, check out the pink moccasins!! I think I like the brown ones better.
Very nice rifle too!! Do you plan on shooting it? If so could you give a range report.
Thanks,
Steve
Very nice rifle too!! Do you plan on shooting it? If so could you give a range report.
Thanks,
Steve
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Very nice ! My favorite Caliber also.
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No history on it. The gentleman that I bought it from said he has had it 15 or so years and didn't even know why he brought it to the show to sell. His mistake, my good fortune.casastahle wrote:That's one hot looking vintage 92
Do you have any history on her
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Good fortune indeed!
Would love to find one like that.
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Wow that's a beauty.
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+1.rjohns94 wrote:Wow that's a beauty.
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Awesome gun !!!
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Griff wrote:+1.rjohns94 wrote:Wow that's a beauty.
+3!
I don't think I've ever seen a nicer one.
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You need to get it "papered" at the Cody Museum so you can see its history and what options it was shipped with
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Hello,
Can I please get the serial number of your rifle so that I can add it into a research survey I am working on for this gun. You can read a bit about it here: http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=606355
Based on the style of the upper tang stamp the rifle is far beyond the serial number range which would allow for a "Cody Letter" to be obtained. They will though, be able to tell you the exact date the receiver was serialized. This is by law the manufacture date. The 1/2 round barrel option is certainly a small percentage of the sporting rifle production. It is my goal to eventually be able to determine approximately what that percentage is. The rifle looks to be 100% original and unaltered. Once the exact age of the rifle is known an accurate determination of the possible value can be made. Could you please post an image of the barrel address stamp found forward of the rear sight.
Let me know if you have any further specific questions.
Thanks
Michael
Can I please get the serial number of your rifle so that I can add it into a research survey I am working on for this gun. You can read a bit about it here: http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=606355
Based on the style of the upper tang stamp the rifle is far beyond the serial number range which would allow for a "Cody Letter" to be obtained. They will though, be able to tell you the exact date the receiver was serialized. This is by law the manufacture date. The 1/2 round barrel option is certainly a small percentage of the sporting rifle production. It is my goal to eventually be able to determine approximately what that percentage is. The rifle looks to be 100% original and unaltered. Once the exact age of the rifle is known an accurate determination of the possible value can be made. Could you please post an image of the barrel address stamp found forward of the rear sight.
Let me know if you have any further specific questions.
Thanks
Michael
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Sixgun wrote: Very rare in that configuration. The factory most always used better than average wood on special order guns. Along with rarity, you also have "condition" and when both of these factors are added in, you have at least a $3,000 gun.......at a good auction, closer to 4-------------6 Very nice.
VERY nice ! Definitely a "Special order" gun, and would easily bring $5K, if not more, in a widely-attended guns-only auction (either online or at one of the big-time auctions like Julia/etc).
That rifle most likely went through the Winchester Custom Shop (where some of the finest workmanship ever done was produced), and just might be in the shop records.
IMHO, there's absolutely NO comparison between that rifle and ANY of the modern clones, even with a Browning B-92.
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"IMHO, there's absolutely NO comparison between that rifle and ANY of the modern clones, even with a Browning B-92."
Absolutely ×10...
Absolutely ×10...
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That is a beautiful rifle and in one of my favorite calibers. Congratulations!
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. Wow!!
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will get the info together tomorrow for you.twobit wrote:Hello,
Can I please get the serial number of your rifle so that I can add it into a research survey I am working on for this gun. You can read a bit about it here: http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=606355
Based on the style of the upper tang stamp the rifle is far beyond the serial number range which would allow for a "Cody Letter" to be obtained. They will though, be able to tell you the exact date the receiver was serialized. This is by law the manufacture date. The 1/2 round barrel option is certainly a small percentage of the sporting rifle production. It is my goal to eventually be able to determine approximately what that percentage is. The rifle looks to be 100% original and unaltered. Once the exact age of the rifle is known an accurate determination of the possible value can be made. Could you please post an image of the barrel address stamp found forward of the rear sight.
Let me know if you have any further specific questions.
Thanks
Michael
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Thanks Win 40-82. I appreciate it.
I am fishing in Belize right now so it may be a day or two before I can do much detail work.
Michael
I am fishing in Belize right now so it may be a day or two before I can do much detail work.
Michael
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there is no such thing as a miss if you still have ammo
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1917
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That's it! I've had enough! Yes, it has come to that time!
Your Excellency, Mr. 40-82,
Can I have it?
Your very good friend,
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Your Excellency, Mr. 40-82,
Can I have it?
Your very good friend,
Mr. Peon Sixgun
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Only if I can double my moneySixgun wrote:That's it! I've had enough! Yes, it has come to that time!
Your Excellency, Mr. 40-82,
Can I have it?
Your very good friend,
Mr. Peon Sixgun
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Yes, the year my dad was born.JOHNNY WACKO wrote:1917
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What a prize that one is.
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win40-82, I have a Winchester 1892 rifle in 32wcf made in 1917 and it is 695 rifles older than your 38-40 and does not have the finish yours has. I bought it from my uncle in the early 1950's for 15.00 dollars. It is still my favorite rifle. The serial number is 846077.
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Why don't you post a photo of it - I like them all.JerryB wrote:win40-82, I have a Winchester 1892 rifle in 32wcf made in 1917 and it is 695 rifles older than your 38-40 and does not have the finish yours has. I bought it from my uncle in the early 1950's for 15.00 dollars. It is still my favorite rifle. The serial number is 846077.
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I can't add anything...everybody has already said it. (Including: Can I have it? )
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It's been a couple of years since I have been able to get Photobucket to work for me. Reckon I am going to try again sometime and see about it.
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Absolutely stunning....
Whatever you paid for it . . . it's surely worth that, and likely more. . .
I'd defer to Sixgun and other traders and experts for the dollar amount, but that gun is speck-####'in-tacular.
Whatever you paid for it . . . it's surely worth that, and likely more. . .
I'd defer to Sixgun and other traders and experts for the dollar amount, but that gun is speck-####'in-tacular.
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Hello Jerry,JerryB wrote:win40-82, I have a Winchester 1892 rifle in 32wcf made in 1917 and it is 695 rifles older than your 38-40 and does not have the finish yours has. I bought it from my uncle in the early 1950's for 15.00 dollars. It is still my favorite rifle. The serial number is 846077.
Could you please send me photos of your rifle so that I can add it into my research also? I will be glad to answer any questions you might have.
Michael
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Hello Win 40-82,
Thanks for the additional photos and also ignore my last PM. Too much sun down here in Belize!!
Your rifle was actually manufactured during 1918 not 1917. One thing which is very unique is the style of 2 line barrel address found on the gun. That style was commonly used much earlier in production and is typically last seen around SN 193000 which corresponds to 1902 production. Obviously Winchester made a large batch of half octagon barrel back then it it took a while to use them all on fully assembled rifles. Is there a small "PAT Oct 14 1884" stamp on the barrel? I have a note as such from the original auction listing for the rifle?
Thanks
Michael
Thanks for the additional photos and also ignore my last PM. Too much sun down here in Belize!!
Your rifle was actually manufactured during 1918 not 1917. One thing which is very unique is the style of 2 line barrel address found on the gun. That style was commonly used much earlier in production and is typically last seen around SN 193000 which corresponds to 1902 production. Obviously Winchester made a large batch of half octagon barrel back then it it took a while to use them all on fully assembled rifles. Is there a small "PAT Oct 14 1884" stamp on the barrel? I have a note as such from the original auction listing for the rifle?
Thanks
Michael
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Checked my Madis book and according to that the first 92 built in 1918 was 853820 making mine a 1917, not that it makes a lot of difference. The pat stamp is on left flat next to rear sight. I would be interested in any info that you have on this rifle.twobit wrote:Hello Win 40-82,
Thanks for the additional photos and also ignore my last PM. Too much sun down here in Belize!!
Your rifle was actually manufactured during 1918 not 1917. One thing which is very unique is the style of 2 line barrel address found on the gun. That style was commonly used much earlier in production and is typically last seen around SN 193000 which corresponds to 1902 production. Obviously Winchester made a large batch of half octagon barrel back then it it took a while to use them all on fully assembled rifles. Is there a small "PAT Oct 14 1884" stamp on the barrel? I have a note as such from the original auction listing for the rifle?
Thanks
Michael
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Win 40-82 wrote:
Michael
The DOM information in the Madis books have been found to not be correct for a number of the Winchester Models. When you compare his dates to the actual serialization dates and the factory production ledgers kept by Winchester the Madis dates are not feasible. Do you have any specific questions about the rifle?Checked my Madis book and according to that the first 92 built in 1918 was 853820 making mine a 1917, not that it makes a lot of difference. The pat stamp is on left flat next to rear sight. I would be interested in any info that you have on this rifle.
Michael
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Michael, you do have my 32wcf in your records.
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Thanks Jerry.
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+2 ...wow... :)TedH wrote:Grizz wrote:WOW.
not much else to say. looks like a million bucks to me.
+1 !!!