OT - Botched work, I could just cry. UPDATE

Post by **Chuck 100 yd** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:11 pm

Darrel Holland teaches gunsmithing at Trinidad. His shop is in Powers Oregon. Maybe it was him?

jd45 · Post by **jd45** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:46 pm

Joe, you have my sympathies.......I hope you can get a satisfactory redress of your grievance. jd45

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:04 pm

PM sent. Follow instructions therein.

Modoc ED · Post by **Modoc ED** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:49 pm

Gee Joe. I don't know the proper depth of the holes for your rifle but sitting/typing here just now I had an idea. How about giving Brownell's a call Monday. They always have a gunsmith on hand to answer questions just like yours whether your are buying something from them or not. I don't have their catalog handy but they may have a formula in the catalog on figuring hole depth like they do for determining sight height. If you don't have their catalog, you may be able to get the info from their website www.brownells.com

Post by **Chuck 100 yd** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:27 pm

Measure the outside diameter of the barrel in the area of the screw holes,subtract the bores groove diameter (.30-06 =.308 etc.) half of that answer will be the wall thickness. subtract the hole depth and the result is the amount of meat left. I want at least .100" for the rears and .070 for the front holes. Remember that the bottom of the hole is pointed by86 deg.when using a normal drill. Be sure to measure to the very bottom.
You may need to make up a probe from a piece of wire or paper clip to measure to the absolute bottom of the hole.
Good luck!

J Miller · Post by **J Miller** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 12:10 am

Chuck 100 yd wrote:Measure the outside diameter of the barrel in the area of the screw holes,subtract the bores groove diameter (.30-06 =.308 etc.) half of that answer will be the wall thickness. subtract the hole depth and the result is the amount of meat left. I want at least .100" for the rears and .070 for the front holes. Remember that the bottom of the hole is pointed by86 deg.when using a normal drill. Be sure to measure to the very bottom.
You may need to make up a probe from a piece of wire or paper clip to measure to the absolute bottom of the hole.
Good luck!

Chuck,
Thanks for the instructions. I'll get to it tomorrow.

Joe

Nate Kiowa Jones · Post by **Nate Kiowa Jones** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 2:26 am

Hi Joe,
I got your email. First thought was everyone messes up sooner or later so I was kinda torn until you posted the guys respond about blaming the gun. Screw ups happen. Whatâ€™s important is how the screwer upper handles it.

As for fixing it, if you send it back to Marlin for a barrel you wonâ€™t have the sights you wanted on it. The least expensive option would be to remount the sights just enough to square them but still cover the holes. Next would be to set the shoulder back and turn the barrel to square then ream if needed. I would insist the shop owner pay for this work and refund the original fee because the gun is still not whole. But if he's willing to replace the barrel and redo the sight install. That would make you whole again and you would owe for the original work then. I would even agree to allow his guy to do it with a written stipulation that if itâ€™s not done to your satisfaction they agree to replace the gun and refund the original fee.

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 6:31 am

QuarterChoke wrote:Joe,
Have iron sights soldered on over the holes, and everything will look fine.

This is what I was going to say.

Swampman · Post by **Swampman** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 6:44 am

Personally I could never be happy with the rifle unless it had a new barrel installed. In the back of my head a voice would be saying, it's not really right. I'm glad I don't feel a need for iron sights on a bolt action.

http://www.levergunscommunity.com/viewtopic.php?t=5320

Post by **Ysabel Kid** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 6:46 am

Joe -

You brought in a functional gun, and left with one that wasn't. In between, they worked on it. As Steve says, everyone makes mistakes - but men own up to them, and make them right.

I'd go back to Bullet Express and tell them:

(1) You want them to buy a new barrel and install it correctly
(2) You want to have the sights put on correctly
(3) You've already paid for the work once and won't do so again
(4) You are giving them a month to do all this to your satisfaction

If they resist tell them it is this or small claims court - which will cost them more in defense than doing the right thing. If they still won't jump at the opportunity to make this right, mention you have started a discussion on this on-line, and the only hope they have of salvaging their name is to do the right thing.

This guy is in business. The cost of the bad press plus defending himself in small claims court is much more than paying to make this right - or forcing the "gunsmith" to do so. Any other determination makes the guy a moron (business-wise).

Swampman · Post by **Swampman** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 7:19 am

Mentioning you have gone public, may get you involved in a slander suit.

J Miller · Post by **J Miller** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 9:58 am

A plan has been hatched. Conspirators are working on it. I'll get back to you with the results as soon as I have some.

Joe

Bigahh · Post by **Bigahh** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:11 am

Good Luck Joe! I'm pulling for you! When all is said and done, bring that rifle, and a few others up here to gods country. We can shoot, and fish for a weekend at the cabin.

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Sun Mar 30, 2008 12:55 am

Joe,
You have mail!

J Miller · Post by **J Miller** » Sun Mar 30, 2008 8:23 am

Griff wrote:Joe,
You have mail!

Griff,

I got it this morning. Will download it to the hard drive and save it in a bit.

Thanks,

Joe

Post by **Ysabel Kid** » Sun Mar 30, 2008 9:22 am

Swampman wrote:Mentioning you have gone public, may get you involved in a slander suit.

Not when he had cold, hard physical proof...

Look at this thread - has it been slanderous?

Modoc ED · Post by **Modoc ED** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 8:37 pm

Joe -

What's the latest on your rifle?

J Miller · Post by **J Miller** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:03 am

Modoc ED wrote:Joe -

What's the latest on your rifle?

Ed, The Marlin is currently at another shop being redone. I haven't heard from them, so I don't know how they are going to do the work.

Both the shop owner and one of the other smiths looked at the sights and commented how crooked they were.

That's all I got to report till I hear from them.

Joe

sore shoulder · Post by **sore shoulder** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:20 am

Ysabel Kid wrote:
Swampman wrote:Mentioning you have gone public, may get you involved in a slander suit.
Not when he had cold, hard physical proof...

Look at this thread - has it been slanderous?

Umm, yea. It's only slander if you can prove it isn't true, and you can show a tangible loss. If it's true, and you show a loss, your screwed, it's called consequences.