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the new henry 1860

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Got an email from Anthony Imperato and he is saying the "hopeful" release date for the new 1860 is March.
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Do you have any more info?
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Was there any pics of this released? If so I probably missed 'em.

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no pictures just letting me know to sign up for their news letters.
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Not gonna hold my breath for this one..

Maybe they will pleasantly surprise me, but I have serious doubts...
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I wouldn't doubt Henry, or Mr.Imperato - since I've had dealings with him.

The 1860 was to have been in production release for the first week of December, but Hurricane Sandy flooded out the factory in late October, putting paid to that (so to speak) - and the employees didn't even get back in there to start cleanup for quite awhile.

HRA finally got production going on all their existing lines by mid-December, and has been busy filling backorders, since then.

Good on them - I wish them well.


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Henry makes a fine .22 (IMO the H001 is the best buy out there) - I hope they do this right.
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sullkat wrote:Got an email from Anthony Imperato and he is saying the "hopeful" release date for the new 1860 is March.

I sent him a letter a year or two ago asking him why Henry has not made a 1860 recently. I told him that Uberti and others can make it work with several calibers and that many people would love to have a real Henry. To my surprise Anthony Imperato called me and we talked about it for a few min. He said that the reason was the 1860 was designed for a rimfire and that the preasures were not where they liked. Of course I told him that other companies found a way to do it so I was sure Henry could also. He was very nice. At the end of our conversation he said he would really look into it and was confident that Henry would do something about it in the future.

I am happy to see that the day is finally coming near. I know that this is not a product of only my conversation and request of him but I will buy one because I told him that if they made them I would buy one.

I was shocked that someone like him would actually call me but was happy to see that, as big as they are they still listen to the customer.

I hope that its going to be a 1860 Henry that will be true to the original as far as design and look goes.
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Rube Burrows wrote:I hope that its going to be a 1860 Henry that will be true to the original as far as design and look goes.
I'm not holding my breath on that one either.

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Sneak Peek -

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86er wrote:Sneak Peek -

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At what? Are those supposed to be 1860s from Henry?
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Allegedly, I rec'vd these via email from an associate.
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Well now, that's a bit more promising. We shall see!

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86er wrote:Allegedly, I rec'vd these via email from an associate.
Very promising! Thanks, 86. :)
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Just over a thousand of the "original" Henry rifles were set up for the .44 Henry Center Fire cartridge.. That should be easy enough to do, in a modern repro. Someone would likely find a way to make ammunition for it..

I think Mr. Imperato isn't as gun-savvy as he should be, maybe...
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Buck Elliott wrote:Just over a thousand of the "original" Henry rifles were set up for the .44 Henry Center Fire cartridge.. That should be easy enough to do, in a modern repro. Someone would likely find a way to make ammunition for it..
I think Mr. Imperato isn't as gun-savvy as he should be, maybe...
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Does anyone else see the obvious dissimilarities between the "Henry" rifles in the photo, other than just frame material..?
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86er wrote:Sneak Peek -

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Joe, that bottom rifle looks to be exactly the same as this one posted to the Uberti web site:


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Does anyone know if what Mr. Imperato is planning is a deal with Uberti to supply him with Henrys in either parts or finished form?

And yes, the dissimilarities stand out, but isn't that a steel frame vs. brass frame model issue?

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In a bit of clarification, my email says "new 1860 from Henry (top) and 1860". I'm not familiar with the rifles but after reading info here and seeing the other photo posted I am lead to conclude that the rifle on bottom in the photo I posted is not from HRA but rather pictured for comparison. I'm sorry I don't know. I replied to the email that sent me the photo but did not hear back yet.
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Hey no worries Joe. There's a story here - we just don't know what it is yet. I'm looking forward to hearing/reading the fullness of it at some point.

Keep us posted! :)

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"IF" the modern Henry company actually makes a real copy of the original Henry rifle, then it might be worth the look see.

"IF" he just imports Uberti made guns, then I won't be interested in the least.

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Pete44ru wrote:I wouldn't doubt Henry, or Mr.Imperato - since I've had dealings with him.

The 1860 was to have been in production release for the first week of December, but Hurricane Sandy flooded out the factory in late October, putting paid to that (so to speak) - and the employees didn't even get back in there to start cleanup for quite awhile.

HRA finally got production going on all their existing lines by mid-December, and has been busy filling backorders, since then.

Good on them - I wish them well.


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J Miller wrote: "IF" he just imports Uberti made guns, then I won't be interested in the least.
Why? What's wrong with an Uberti?

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The Henry Repeating Arms motto is Made in America or not made at all. I seriously doubt they ever import anything or partner with foreign sources. We shall see what they have in store for us ....
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J Miller wrote: "IF" he just imports Uberti made guns, then I won't be interested in the least.
Why? What's wrong with an Uberti?

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Nothing at all. I've got a Codymatic that runs like a scalded cat. I think folks would like to see the Henry Company make the Henry Rifle. I'm interested. I sure hope they don't take asthetic license with the design.
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olyinaz wrote:
J Miller wrote: "IF" he just imports Uberti made guns, then I won't be interested in the least.
Why? What's wrong with an Uberti?

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Not a thing.

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Like Buck said, I'd love to see the rebirth of the 44 henry centerfire. Heck, the 56-50 was reincarnated as a centerfire for the spencer repros with starline making brass. Seems like the henry could get a new lease on life. Cant be too far off from 44 russian
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I'd even settle for an American made 1860 Henry in 44/40 centerfire. :wink:
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Friends Call Me Ji wrote:I'd even settle for an American made 1860 Henry in 44/40 centerfire. :wink:
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After how clean I've seen the .44-40 run I'd say that's a brilliant idea. For folks not intimate with it, it's a bottleneck case that does beautifully at sealing the chamber at lower smokeless and BP pressures. Had I only been born a genius, I wouldn't have ever gone with .45 LC.
A .38-40 would streamline my bullet stocking a little better though. Does anyone know how well that case does at sealing the blow back??
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The .38 WCF does a great job of sealing against "blowback" because it has a more pronounced bottleneck configuration than the .44-40.

Pressure against the sloping shoulder is what provides the "seal." Obviously, the .45 Colt is a straight case, with no shoulder, so higher pressure is required to get a proper seal, but it isn't that difficult to achieve, at pressures beyond that of mouse-fanny burp CAS loads...
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I've also heard one could use .454 bullets to achieve the seal with the Cas rodent flatulence loads.
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.454" bullets will seal the bore so the powder gases can push the bullet out, but they will not seal the chamber.
That is the problem with the mouse phart loads. They don't have enough pressure to expand the case to seal the chamber. Hense .... blow back.

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Well whatever happens and how it is refreshing to read about a new addition coming out amidst all the scare gossip we are stuck with. Bully for any American firearms company willing to stay in the sadle.
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