Your M1A not "tacticool" enough?

[Old Ironsights]

Make it a Bullpup.



http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/juggern ... is-system/

[pwl44m]

And They say My Glock Is Ugly. hmmmm
Perry

[Streetstar]

ehhhhhhhhhh ---------- no thanks

2 more pounds to an already heavy rifle

[Pisgah]

All considerations of looks or possible practicality, or lack of either or both, aside -- I can't help but be positive that you would at least get pretty bad trigger degradation from the Rube Goldberg set-up needed to make it work. Maybe okay, if all I want is a room-cleaner -- but I have an AR carbine for that. The one SOCOM M1A I have become intimate with has proven so sweet at longer ranges that I could not imagine changing it one whit.

[AJMD429]

If I wanted a bullpup .308, I'd get the Kel-Tec one - they are very interesting...




http://keltecweapons.com/our-guns/rifles/rfb/
http://gunblast.com/KelTec-RFB.htm
http://keltecweapons.com/video/

[jeepnik]

And They say My Glock Is Ugly. hmmmm
Perry

Yep, Glocks are pure purty next to that thing. I wouldn't do that to my Scout if you provided the parts and bought another Scout. I just can't be that cruel, even to an inanimate object.

[jnyork]

Guess I am just too old to appreciate either one of those, would much rather have a real M1A with wood stock and iron sights in original configuration, now that's a real MAN'S rifle.

[MrMurphy]

The Israelis did that, for sniping, about 20-25 years ago.

Very few were ever made.

[J Miller]

Guess I am just too old to appreciate either one of those, would much rather have a real M1A with wood stock and iron sights in original configuration, now that's a real MAN'S rifle.

Ever since the 60s and woman's movement, and bra burning, and hippies drugs and liberals, REAL MEN have been bread out of the species. MEN who can handle a real rifle are few and far between today.
So now they have 'things' like that tactical junque to make the pseudo men think they are real.

PUKE, GAG, RETCH, BARF .....

And that's just the nice things I can say about that.

JMNSHO

Joe

[Sixgun]

Ever since the 60s and woman's movement, and bra burning, and hippies drugs and liberals, REAL MEN have been bread out of the species. MEN who can handle a real rifle are few and far between today.
So now they have 'things' like that tactical junque to make the pseudo men think they are real.
Joe

Pretty close Joe. I don't think the "man" part has been "bred" out of us. I think it has been "brainwashed" out of us. Just take a look at those Progressive Car Insurance commercials. White guys walking around and talking like wimps. In other brainwashing shows etc, the black man is shown to be big, strong, massive and in other words, what a woman should breed with.

Its all part of the "plan". --------------Sixgun

Oh! The M1-A.............Like jnyork says, The M1-A has to have a wood stock and iron sights. As far as the goofy bullpup stock goes.......well, theres a seat for every azz here in the US of A so let capitalism rule!

[COSteve]

I accept it, I'm not tacticool so all this newfangled stuff just doesn't do it for me. The M14 is a classic style battle rifle as fielded; walnut and steel just like a combat rifle should be. If you need a scout scope mount, something like the Desert Warrior Products - Forward Rail works and doesn't screw up the basic good lines.



If you've got to be 'Tacticool' then something like the Troy Industries Battle Rail further down the page should do you just fine.





Remember, I'm the guy that added a walnut stock, pistol grip, and forearm to my AR!!








If this means I'm stuck in the past . . . . . . . . then I guess I'm happy to be.

[4t5]

Bull pup maybe,Bull poop surely!

[jnyork]

Bull pup maybe,Bull poop surely!

Har har!!!

[J Miller]

Steve,

Your AR with the wood is the best looking AR I've ever seen. As equipped I wouldn't mind owning one. But with the plastic stuff I'm not interested in the least.

Joe

[jeepnik]

Steve, I agree with J on the wood. Where'd you get it?

[Paladin]

On my trip with some friends the M-14 did a great job old fiberglass stock was fine (the selector worked well).

[COSteve]

Steve, I agree with J on the wood. Where'd you get it?

I stumbled upon it at Rock River Arms a while back. They were selling plain walnut sets for $150 with a stock A2 pistol grip. While they don't sell them anymore, I believe that they got them from Precision Firearms. The rifle length is on the first page for $149, second from the bottom while the carbine length is below it. I made the grip by adding some wood to build up the beavertail on an old DPMS wood one I found at the funshow some years ago. If you want to spring for a more custom one, MacTec has some nice wood grips but they are spendy.

I've had the set on my AR for a couple of years and really like it. Solid with a great feel of a real rifle. The wood is a bit heavier than the plastic but it's well worth it for a real wood feel. Besides, this is my long range shooter and at 10.5 lbs it's good and solid and I can shoot reliably with my 68grn Hornadys out past 450 yards supported using the 12x scope. At Pawnee National Grasslands about 7 weeks ago, I was shooting apples at 460 yards!

[AJMD429]

At Pawnee National Grasslands about 7 weeks ago, I was shooting apples at 460 yards!

What scope magnification...? I know I could barely see an apple at 100 yards with a 4x scope, so assume that for 460 yards, I'd need at least a 20x scope to even see the durned apple...!

Yet I read about guys using medium-power scopes all the time at long distances for small targets - how is it done if the magnification isn't enough to make the target visible? My eyes must just be really bad...

[COSteve]

12x power works well for me out to 500 yards even with my old eyes. 4x power is not enough for me at 300 yards but I can just barely see a golf ball at 200 yards with one.

[Moondawg]

The original wooden stock M-14 had a fatal flaw. The stock was weak at the pistol grip and prone to break. We broke a lot of stocks doing horizontal butt stokes, during bayonet drill, on the bayonet dummies. The Army started replacing the broken wooden stocks with a heavy fiberglass stock that was much more durable. The M-14 was a pretty good battle rifle, except for the jungles and rice paddies of Vietnam. Unfortunately, that was the only war we had at the time.

[Blaine]

The Springfield was a pretty good Army rifle, but the TactiCool Mausers the Spanish and Cubans used almost kicked our azz and we answered with the Krag Every job has a tool.

[COSteve]

The original wooden stock M-14 had a fatal flaw. The stock was weak at the pistol grip and prone to break. We broke a lot of stocks doing horizontal butt stokes, during bayonet drill, on the bayonet dummies. The Army started replacing the broken wooden stocks with a heavy fiberglass stock that was much more durable. The M-14 was a pretty good battle rifle, except for the jungles and rice paddies of Vietnam. Unfortunately, that was the only war we had at the time.

Actually, as an Armorer at that time, we found that the stocks were no weaker than the M1 Garand's in that area, it's just that the instructors were letting them be abused. The quality and attitude of the trainees was quite different from those entering during WWII.

The fiberglass stocks were thought to be stronger and more water and mildew resistant than wood and in the jungle that was an issue. I agree that the M14 was not suited for jungle warfare as it's more of a long range, precision weapon whereas in RVN we used a ton of auto fire into the bush to suppress enemy fire.

The M16 was also much more controllable in auto fire, weighed less, and the ammo was both lighter and cheaper so for jungle fighting it was a better approach. That said, there is a reason that many M14 are being brought back into service in Afghanistan where longer range, heavier hitting battle rifles have a real place in one's arsenal.